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ParticipantNothing to do with Cork, but is anyone able to tell be the background of the MI6 building in London? It’s very imaginative and creative, and I’ve never seen a building like it before. Would be nice to see more creativity going into Irish buildings like they have done in the UK.
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ParticipantOh my god…. I can’t believe what I’m reading about Paul Kenny’s RC building. That was one project I really wanted to see get built. That’s disappointing! And I agree, yes I would like to see the Water Street development get the go ahead, but I think we could do abit better in terms of setting a scale. Can’t wait to check out Ballincollig SC; apart from the Dunnes like, I think it will be a nice shopping centre overall and it should do really well too. What’s happening with the airport? Any pics. available?
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ParticipantIs someone able to go to the Water Street thing or is everyone working? As always, my fingers will be crossed, but just in case, I’ll cross my toes too. Glad to see Schuh opening up in Cork and also securityman, I’m really happy about ESPRIT opening in Douglas, it’s the first I’ve heard of it opening in Cork. It should do well as it’s Cork’s first. And about the event centre…. we shouldn’t settle for anything less than 5000 seats. If we’re not going to get that, then we might as well just stick with the Opera House!
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ParticipantThere are no current dates yet to when the stores will close. The company says it will close when it sells off it’s large amount of stock. Yes…. Hickeys Fabric have nothing to do with the DIY chain. The company said it couldn’t compete with the increased competition from B&Q, Atlantic Homecare and Woodies, amongst others. Still, there must be other reasons behind the closure. I can’t imagine a whole chain of stores to shut at the drop of a hat just because the larger chains dictate the price of goods, downsize maybe… but never closure. I presume whatever land they own will be put up for sale, definetly good retail opportunities to be had. Still waiting on any news on the airport if there is some. Any pics. available?
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ParticipantWhen is Harvey Norman due to open? I can’t imagine them taking much longer. I heard Hickeys are closing down six of it’s stores in Cork due to the increased competition from B&Q and Atlantic Homecare. It should free up some city centre retail space, maybe even room for redevelopment, interesting to see how things will turn out, although I am sorry to see the company come to an end.
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ParticipantI really like those plans for Dennehy’s Cross. I like the picture of the Southern Elevation. Any updates on the airport? Who was it that usually posted a few pictures now and then? jungle? Urghh, I’m after forgetting! Anyway, I’m keen to see how everything is coming into place. Post anything at all if ye can. Thanks.
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ParticipantThanks lawer. I’m not just interested in the trams in Cork, i’m interested in everything to do with transportation. The city was better served by public transport back then, then it is now… it’s such a pity. Did Galway or Waterford ever have trams? I presume Limerick’s tram system went about the same time as Corks. I’m sure they’re equally annoyed that the lost their tram network too. Stupid Irish Government… they can’t get anything right, lol. Thanks again.
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ParticipantI hope nobody has forgotten the Royal National Lifeboat Insitution (RNLI) which has a crown on it symbolising the monarchy. Every lifeboat station in the country will have that on it’s building.

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ParticipantYoughal in Co. Cork is a very “Anglo” town. Sir Walter Raleigh was mayor of the town in 1588 and Queen Elizabeth I visited his house which still stands today. I went to Youghal a few days back because they are having a historical week type thing. The town was chartered and given a mace like all towns and cities in Ireland, which of course, had the emblem of the United Kingdom and the seal of the monarch at the time. You’ll propably find that all of the old towns like Youghal, Kinsale and many other places all have their own maces, which were given to them by the King or Queen of the time. Ireland will never escape it’s British past, we were part of the United Kingdom for over 500 years…… it won’t all dissappear overnight. Oh and Oliver Cromwell left Ireland for the last time from Youghal Harbour…. hehehe, and people say school is a waste of time!
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ParticipantWhere were the trams kept at night time? There must have been some type of yard where they kept them? I love looking at all the pictures of them. Good exhibition on a few months back in one of the art galleries showing old photos and paintings. Shame they’re gone.
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ParticipantI like that we still have some reminants of our past. I’m sure the Sinn Fein supporters are cursing me to death for saying that, but wheter they like it or not, it’s part of our heritage. The Australians and Canadians are really big into the whole “Royal” thing…. although Australia is still looking for it’s independance (which they turned down in a vote about five years ago, wanting to remain under Quenn Elizabeth’s rule), the country is scattered with statues of old monarchs as well as present day Elizabeth II. It’s a shame though that we don’t have any of the nice phone boxes left, I always liked those, even though they are being wiped out in the UK. And alot of old public buldings i.e. courthouses and town halls in most towns around the country would bare some type of coat of arms with a crown.
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ParticipantThanks lex, and Nov. 24th… thats like ages away, but seen as I waited this long, I might aswell hang on again for another two months. What do you think the outcome will be? Me fingers are crossed as usual, Oh and for anyone thinking of using the tunnel tomorrow…. don’t! My sister was stuck in there for over an hour this morning, for a journey that usually takes thirty seconds… an hour is abit much for anyone, all the police told everyone to turn off their engines ‘cos they were in the tunnel for so long…. Damn farmers clogging up all the roads. I had a doss day at school though, five or six of the teachers couldn’t make it in with all the traffic.
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ParticipantI agree, you can’t beat the Kenny proposal for St. Patricks Qy. I really like it so so much, What’s the storey with Water Street? I haven’t heard anything about it in ages.
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ParticipantOh my God…. is that supposed to be a multi story car park? If they are going to block out County Hall, they might as well do it with something attractive… not a dirty old grey concrete building. I’m not all against it though, a few changes and it should look ok, but I’m sure someone will point it out to the planning authorities sooner or later. As for the building on Centre Park Road…. it’s really nice, very European, looks as if it was sent stright over from Brussels. And Eden Hall… student accomadation…. hmm, which do I prefer, Eden Hall or Victoria Mills…. hmm , that’s a hard one. It’s stunning, looks as if alot of time and money went into it, unlike it’s glorified shoebox friend Victoria Mills.
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ParticipantI’m not sure what to make of it all. On one hand, I hate to see the larger companies like Aer Lingus expressing an “interest” in Cork, when they really don’t give a toss (with the exception of Warsaw as previously noted), but on the other hand, Ryanair can offer fares for less then half the price of Aer Arann, however, it’s obvious that Ryanair didn’t start the route in Cork’s interests, it only did it to get it’s revenge on Aer Arann for taking the Kerry-Dublin route right from under their noses. Ryanair is marketing the route so it can compete with Irish Rail, I’d prefer to take the train any day…. they are more frequent and it brings you straight into the city. How much is a taxi from the airport to the city centre in Dublin? Flying will probably cost you in and around €100 by the time you get into the city, and considering check in times and what have you, the train seems faster aswell (fast for Irish standars anyway). But I have always hated Aer Lingus since they managed to close down JetMagic. The airline flew to places like Milan, Brussels and Nice and other places unknown to Cork before them. Aer Lingus then began operating flights to Milan and Nice, selling fares for half the price and more frequent until JetMagic had to finally close down. What’s Aer Lingus next move….. they fu*king close down the routes. They are such a horrible airline and I wouldn’t fly with them if they begged me. I know they did recently open up the Nice route again, but still, it took them long enough. I miss JetMagic, I never got to fly with them, but I know they gave you free champagne in large leather seats, lol, I bet thats why they called their Frequent Flyer programme “Cloud 9”.
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Participanta sensible thing to do would be to build extra large just in case. get things right at the begining. think things through properly. it is mad that in london for example some of the tube lines don’t allow much room between the train and the roof of the tunnel
alpha, you have to remember that some of the tube lines in London were built either over a hundred years ago or else during the aftermath of two world wars, but I do agree, everything should be made bigger “just in case”. If Aer Lingus have big plans for opening up long haul routes from Dublin, then they should suggest to the DAA that they don’t want to operate in an airport that can’t accomadate large aircraft. If the airport wants to open it’s self up to the world and act as a “gateway” then their gonna have to do better. The airport wont be viable in the future if it can’t cater for modern planes….. Boeing 747’s are already outdated, with the larger airlines like British Airways, Lufthansa and Emirites replacing a portion of their 747 fleet with the new Airbus A380. I just think that the DAA should think more along the lines of Heathrow and Charles de Gaulle, instead of just fixing an overcrowding problem, they should be thinking of the airports growth aswell.
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ParticipantSaw in the Echo today the shops due to open in the new Ballincollig Shopping Centre. Here’s a list if anyone didn’t manage to get it; Dunnes (fashion and food), Easons, Dixons, New Look, Hallmark Cards, Carphone Warehouse, Roxy Records, Cummins Sports, Sasha, Royal Bank of Scotland, Hickey Pharmacy, Ballincollig Credit Union, Jump Juice, Nu Schu, Dr. China, Impulse Accessories, Art and Hobby, Fitzpatricks Jewellers, Carrig Donn, Paddy Power, O’Briens Sandwich Bar, Paco Store and Burger King. Another bar and restaurant and an opticians are also to open but are not yet named. I think the variety is ok, Dixons and New Look will probably be the main attractions to the centre but no doubt all of the other outlets will do well too. It opens on Oct. 18.
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ParticipantOh, and for any of you who have been to Paris and did a Seine cruise, you would have noticed that the river is so clean you could drink from it. The bridges are spotless and there isn’t even the slightest smell from the river. There are 10 million people living in Paris…. how do they manage to keep their river so clean?? Their sewage is probably cleaner then the Lee, although that wouldn’t be hard.
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ParticipantI haven’t a doubt in my mind that Cork will one day have some sort of barrier/dam to keep out the sea, I just hope it wont be too late. And I’m sure Cork won’t be the only city with a barrier…. any town or city that is built around the sea or a tidal river will have to have some protection from it. Especially an island country like our’s….. we’re gonna have to take a page out of The Netherlands book, constantly fighting off the sea. Read an article in the paper the other day, suppposedly, all of the ice in the north pole will have disappeared by 2070. It’s really creepy when you think about it…..
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ParticipantThanks lawyer, I didn’t even know the name of the building. It’s got quite an impressive history to it aswell. 🙂
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