What’s up docks?
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@CM00 wrote:
(Final shot is the expansive Liffey quay. Would you walk it? What’s the destination? What’s the point?)
People will walk along here in the same way that they take a stroll along Dun Laoghaire Pier. The apartments and offices being built along this quay will house more than the population of many well known Irish towns.
Also if this weather keeps up…
@Lotts wrote:
windmill lane is not the site. The tower is to be built at the end of Britain Quay where the Dodder joins the Liffey.
Where the “pikeys” are now.
For your info Maskhadov they are ‘members of the travelling community’.Yesterday, the DDDA officially inveited expressions of interest form “world class developers and design teams” to design, construct and finance a 0.78 hectare site -including the U2 tower- at Sir John Rogerson’s Quay.
The project also includes the design and construction of an 11,500 sq mt building on the adjacent Britain Quay site.design? does that not suggest that theyre selling the site with pp and the tower as designed may not necessarily be built
@Paul Clerkin wrote:
design? does that not suggest that theyre selling the site with pp and the tower as designed may not necessarily be built
Hopefully, vile if you ask me.
That would make one wonder what the future is with the remainder of the DDDA flagship projects such as the Airies and Liebskind buildings.
In fact if the docklands is completed without these 3 projects the area will be the most homogenous and bland district constructed in Northern Europe in the past decade on foot of the establishment of a dedicated urban renewal agency.
One feels that DCC would have done a far better job
Yesterday, the DDDA officially inveited expressions of interest form “world class developers and design teams” to design, construct and finance a 0.78 hectare site -including the U2 tower- at Sir John Rogerson’s Quay.
The project also includes the design and construction of an 11,500 sq mt building on the adjacent Britain Quay site.@Paul Clerkin wrote:
design? does that not suggest that theyre selling the site with pp and the tower as designed may not necessarily be built
@Bago wrote:
Hopefully, vile if you ask me.
@Thomond Park wrote:
That would make one wonder what the future is with the remainder of the DDDA flagship projects such as the Airies and Liebskind buildings.
In fact if the docklands is completed without these 3 projects the area will be the most homogenous and bland district constructed in Northern Europe in the past decade on foot of the establishment of a dedicated urban renewal agency.
One feels that DCC would have done a far better job
How did you reach that conclusion given that project no longer has any gaurantees of completion?
From that Indo piece I simply would have taken it that they were just looking for someone to construct the project and maybe design some of the other buildings, other than the U2 Tower.
However if it means the current tower may not necessarily be built, then that is great news imo, because I think the U2 Tower is a crap design and not worthy of a major icon for Dublin.Originally posted by Devin
I think the U2 Tower is a crap design and not worthy of a major icon for Dublin.Wasn’t the U2 Tower the winner of a competition..can people on these forums post the designs they entered in the competition? Devin lets see it, post your superior entry below:
@The Denouncer wrote:
Wasn’t the U2 Tower the winner of a competition..can people on these forums post the designs they entered in the competition? Devin lets see it, post your superior entry below:
Well said, I stand by this design and i hope mit gets built. Did anyone ever see ‘Turning torso’ in Sweden? Well i did up close and its facking gorgeous, I can only hope it turns out similiar…
@PVC King wrote:
How did you reach that conclusion given that project no longer has any gaurantees of completion?
Are you talking to yourself again Thomond Park?
If anyone want’s to see the other designs, they are at
http://www.irish-architecture.com/unbuilt_ireland/dublin/u2_tower/index.htmlThe winner imho is not an entirely crap design, but, as Devin points out, it is not worthy of a a major icon for Dublin.
Nobody I know that has looked through the list of entries has picked Craig Henry Architects entry as a favorite.Maybe one of the designs that failed to win can be used across the water in the Point Village. Its a pity that a 32 storey building is the best we can hope for, while towering over Dublin, would be a minor building in many other cities, though I like the design. Certainly better than Liberty Hall anyway
@The Denouncer wrote:
Its a pity that a 32 storey building is the best we can hope for, while towering over Dublin, would be a minor building in many other cities, though I like the design.
Why do you want to go higher. As you say a 32 storey tower will literally dominate the skyline…why do you think we need a higher range of buildings.
Something like the 170 metre Spinnaker Tower in Portsmouth would be ideal, and I don’t believe any building in the Docks would dominate the city, however it would add and not detract from the current *cough* ‘skyline’.
@The Denouncer wrote:
Something like the 170 metre Spinnaker Tower in Portsmouth would be ideal, and I don’t believe any building in the Docks would dominate the city, however it would add and not detract from the current *cough* ‘skyline’.
ooh to think the spike could have been like that…i saw the 135 meter olympic tower (?) in Barcelona as well, which was quite impressive.
i don’t think Dublin needs any buildings higher than 32 storeys (at the moment) but its a nice leap from 5-15 storey monotony…thinking of others cities the size of Dublin, we need to aim in their direction (there are exceptions of course like Frankfurt, Rotterdam etc.)
Amsterdam’s tallest is the 135m rembrant tower
Lisbon’s tallest are two 110m residential towers (which are quite nice)
Brussels has a few tall office towers tallest is 150m and a 145m tower u/c
Birmingham’s Holloway circus that was built last year is 130mI think we are aiming for the right height here, we just need a few of them to catch up with similiar skylines
Otherwise we will have have a huge ‘landmark’ tower that will stick out like Montparnasse in Paris
Hueston gate will be 140 m to spire and is a good landmark tower for any european city of our size
The gateway to the city is also a reasonable heightHowever i do think the docks have great potential for a massive tower…and something very ‘iconic’
But lets built up to that first by going ahead with U2 tower, point village (i don’t know about you, but i’d love an apartment in EITHER tower!!!I’d love to see something for tourists, something 200 metres or so.
“Get the Luas to the exciting new 200 metre Yeats Tower and have a bite to eat on the 50th floor overlooking this historic literary city, whilst listening to the Abbey players as they recite some of W.B. Yeats most eclectic work.”i agree . I think the u2 could be very nice, depending on how close it fulfills the architects vision.
however if it is not possible to find a developer … well if you are breaking through the ceiling of 10/11 storeys, then make it big high and beautifull.
That Spinaker thing in Portsmouth looks terrible – pure retro-future kitsch in the vein of that ridiculous hotel in Dubai, the Burj Al Arab…
It’s also been a complete disaster from a constructional point of view, opening 5 years late and having to close agan because the lift dosen’t work properly. And because it’s a bespoke lift designed specifically to fit the tower they have no idea how to fix it. Now it looks like it’s going to have to be ripped out and replaced, closing the tower for at least another six months.Give me the U2 tower any day – i think that the inital winning entry was fairly poor but the new, higher version looks much more elegant and will add a touch of class to the fairly uninspiring Docklands.
BTW, the mateus hotel seems to be going up pretty quickly – I’ve only seen it from the railway line into Connolly but it looks to me like a whole section of the “checkerboard” facade is complete to the south of the building. Im I correct in assuming that this is the hotel or is it some other building entirely!?
@The Denouncer wrote:
I’d love to see something for tourists, something 200 metres or so.
“Get the Luas to the exciting new 200 metre Yeats Tower and have a bite to eat on the 50th floor overlooking this historic literary city, whilst listening to the Abbey players as they recite some of W.B. Yeats most eclectic work.”how about closing down one of the poolbeg chimneys, repainting it and sticking a huge saucer on top a la CN tower, stick a radio antennae on top and hey presto?
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