What is the tallest residential tower at present in Dublin?

@Ruth Alexandra wrote:

What is the ‘tallest residential tower at present in Dublin?’
I’m doing the quiz on Thursday’s property supplement.
I would guess U2 tower on Britian Quay but it’s not yet completed.
tnx Ruth Alexandra.

At present I think it’s the Millenium Tower, Charlotte Quay, – 52M, 16 floors.

@carrigdhoun wrote:

At present I think it’s the Millenium Tower, Charlotte Quay, – 52M, 16 floors.

Is it not the Ardoyne House apartments overlooking Herbert Park?

@jdivision wrote:

Is it not the Ardoyne House apartments overlooking Herbert Park?

That is listed as 40M and 13 floors in the “skyscrapernews” website.

i think the tallest residential building is actually millennium tower.

Is Santry Cross not finished?

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/bu/?id=100659 says Santry Cross is 52 metres

I’m pretty sure it’s the Millenium tower. Anything taller is only in the planning stages. I’m also doing that IT Property quiz.

Here’s one that has alluded me

Crouch, Stringer, Beckett and Strain were all…?

I agree the tallest residential tower is Millenium Tower, Charlotte Quay.

Rusty, I think the answer to ‘Crouch, Strain etc’ is that they were all builders. Perhaps you can help me in return – I’m having trouble withno 36 – identifying the odd one out of the houses pictured, I have identified Carton House and Russborough House (ie A and D), but can’t get the other two. Do you know what they are???

@kramer wrote:

I agree the tallest residential tower is Millenium Tower, Charlotte Quay.

Rusty, I think the answer to ‘Crouch, Strain etc’ is that they were all builders. Perhaps you can help me in return – I’m having trouble withno 36 – identifying the odd one out of the houses pictured, I have identified Carton House and Russborough House (ie A and D), but can’t get the other two. Do you know what they are???

I haven’t got the quiz in front of me but I remember instantly thinking that one of the houses wasn’t a hotel now which is why it’s the odd one out. That’s a first glance thing so I might be wrong

Thanks for your help. I’m now almost certain that the tallest residential AT PRESENT in Dublin is the Minimum Tower in Charlotte Quay (52M). Well that’s my answer!

@Rusty Cogs wrote:

I’m pretty sure it’s the Millenium tower. Anything taller is only in the planning stages. I’m also doing that IT Property quiz.

Here’s one that has alluded me

Crouch, Stringer, Beckett and Strain were all…?

Hi Rusy Cogs, I’m nearly sure I have the answer to no 7; Strain, Stringer, Crouch & Beckett were all Dublin house builders. (?).

By any chance do you have the answer for no.36 Which one of those houses is the odd one out & why?!:o

@Ruth Alexandra wrote:

By any chance do you have the answer for no.36 Which one of those houses is the odd one out & why?!:o

The why: one of them isn’t a golf course.
the which: that’d be telling.;)

And yes, those four names were builders.

I got about 95% correct afaik, but I’m not entering. Wouldn’t have any use for €1,000 voucher for BTs, and I object strongly to the inclusion of architectural history questions in a ‘Property’ quiz.:mad:

Anyone else having problems? Say, with the Farrow and Ball paint colours question?:)

I got that Farrow & Ball one, thank God for Google.

If anyone knows No. 35 I’d be appreciative, don’t relish the idea of rooting through 10 year old property suppliments.

One other to confirm, the highrise of 11a, I know where it’s going but don’t know what it’s called (it’s been featured on this very site).

🙂

@kramer wrote:

I agree the tallest residential tower is Millenium Tower, Charlotte Quay.

Rusty, I think the answer to ‘Crouch, Strain etc’ is that they were all builders. Perhaps you can help me in return – I’m having trouble withno 36 – identifying the odd one out of the houses pictured, I have identified Carton House and Russborough House (ie A and D), but can’t get the other two. Do you know what they are???

Kramer, the comment below about Golf Courses below is correct methinks. Have to ring the brother to ask him which one though.

Q. 36 – is the ans ‘D’ Russborough Hse – the other three are golf courses?

I’m stuck on Q16, part A & C – anyone know who these property people are? (the lady & teh man with long hair!).

you need to post the questions as most of us wont have the paper

A lot of questions are pictures so I can’t post. I guess if they were all written questions there would be too much use of Google.

16c, hairy property dude is our little Italy Mr Wallace, work hard, play hard, save on haircuts.

Tricky question No. 35 has a picture of a nice two story over basement double fronted redbrick Victorian with the question

“This restored five-bedroom house on Palmerston Road in Dublin 6 made €7.5 million in June; guess what price it made (to the nearest

Thanks Rusty for that, I’d never have guessed that. (did you get the lady?).

Another question, this time non-pictorial! :
“The two leading Irish architects who died in 2006?”
Ans: Stevenson & ?

@Ruth Alexandra wrote:

Thanks Rusty for that, I’d never have guessed that. (did you get the lady?).

Another question, this time non-pictorial! :
“The two leading Irish architects who died in 2006?”
Ans: Stevenson & ?

Arthur Gibney (Stephenson’s partner for ESB Headquarters).

On no 36, I did think that Russborough was the odd one, but it was designed by the same person as Carton, so I thought there might be a link there. Is picture B, the sprawling white house, the K Club (ie Straffan House). That would definitely confirm Russborough as the odd one. Come on, please help me!!

People seem to have given you help on that question already.

kramer- yes, it’s the K Club.
Ruth- Laura Magahy.

What building stands on the site of the former Theatre Royal in Dublin ?

How many metres/ft can you extend your home by without planning permission ?

A toughie ‘Loin’s Head’ is in which Dublin suburb ?

I think the site of the Royal is presently occupied by Hawkins House.

a) Spot on, phil.

b) 40 sq.m.

c) Inchicore (afaik). (I think it’s ‘Lion’s Head’ rather that ‘Loin’s Head’ though, Rusty Cogs 😉 ).

Ahem, yes, Lion’s Head, I remember passing a pub (The Black Lion?) down there every week on my way to/from college. Any connection to the name I wonder. Anyway, thanks for the other info.

@Rusty Cogs wrote:

A toughie ‘Loin’s Head’ is in which Dublin suburb ?

Is that spelt right? (I don’t have a copy of the quiz)

If it was Lions Head it would be a very nice clue, which would give Howth

There is no pub of that name as far as I know, but based on a passage from Joyce’s Ulysses (Chapter 15)

“….BLOOM (Hatless, flushed, covered with burn of thistledown and gotrepine.) Regularly engaged. Circumstances alter cases. (He gazes intently downwards on the water.) Thirtytwo head over heels per second. Press nightmare. Giddy Elijah. Fall from cliff. Sad end of government printer’s clerk. (Through silversilent summer air the dummy of Bloom, rolled in a mummy, rolls rotatingly from the Lion’s Head cliff into the purple Waiting waters.) “

Lions head was part of the Glenlion House site up for sale during the year which failed to sell at auction in June. (AMV of €6.5 million). Had a write up in the Times Property too I think.

Yep, Hawkins House, 40 Sq. meters & Howth are the answers I have too.

Anyone know who the guy is with the long hair (16 c)? (Thanks ctesiphon for the answer to a).
Also stuck on 21 b & c – which famous people live in these houses.

Pls help as closing date for entry is Friday & that BT voucher would be nice!
R.A.

Ruth Alex

Did you get the one about the house in D6 for 7.5m. Don’t remember that sale in June ?

Hairy builder guy is Michael Wallace

I guessed

I don’t have the paper any more, but from memory 21b is Jim Sheridan (Martha’s Vineyard in Killiney) snd 21c is Michael Flatley (Castle Hyde in Fermoy).

What are the others you’re missing?

Thanks ctesiphon for the answer! – I’m just missing one from that question – part (d) the slender castle beside a road. The shot seems to be taken in evening light & some clarity is lost.

Two more missing:
Q.6 (c ) – Is the question with the London Gherkin, Sydney Opera House & Gaudi cathedral – I’m looking for the name / designer of part c the crazy building by the waterside?
Q.11 (d) – Dublin towers – I have the U2 tower, Landstown Road, Heuston Gate but don’t recognise the tower in part c?

I’m pretty sure that ‘slender castle’ is Jeremy Irons’s tower house near Bantry, but I don’t know its name (though you only need the name of the owner, iirc).

6c is Frank Gehry’s Guggenheim Museum in Bilbao, though again I don’t have the paper so you should double check all my answers.

Q11- why is Lansdowne Road in a question on towers? :confused: I remember the U2 tower, Heuston Gate and the Point Village tower in that question, but not the fourth one, and not any Lansdowne tower either. Is it a quastion on towers, or a question on new Dublin developments?

RE; Q11. The Lansdown road question asks where certain buildings are planned for in Dublin, (three happen to be towers).

Thanks so much for your help I’ve finished the quiz & will catch today’s post in time for tomorrow’s deadline!!! 🙂

You can buy us all lunch in BTs if you win,;)

I’m going to drop mine up tomorrow.

No idea about the 7.5m house in D6. I’ll guess £600,000 just to be different.

One question I’m not so sure on is No. 26 the four styles of houses. Can’t post picutes of them here for those who don’t have it but I went

A. Georgian
B. Regencey
C.Art Deco
D. Edwardian

The fact that there’s no Victorian in there is giving me some doubt.

Ruth, what do you think ?

Do you know the houses that are pictured? ie, are there other pictures of them featured in the ‘buildings of Ireland’ section on this site that people could have a look at. Sounds like it is an interesting quiz. I am disappointed to have missed it last week. Good luck to those of you who are entering it.

@Rusty Cogs wrote:

A. Georgian
B. Regencey
C.Art Deco
D. Edwardian

The fact that there’s no Victorian in there is giving me some doubt.

I don’t remember the order, but:
the large redbrick (3 bay, 2 storey over basement?) is Victorian;
the farmhouse one is Georgian;
the white one is International Style or Modernist or, at a push, Art Deco (it’s Michael Scott’s Geragh, in Sandycove); and
the smaller redbrick one is Edwardian (gabled, projecting two-storey box-bay window).

And I think that’s the correct order too (from memory- just call me Jimmy Magee!).

PS When the deadline has passed, I’d like to see what your tie-breaker suggestions are. For anyone who didn’t see it, the question said something like: I wish I’d bought property in 1995 because… (in no more than 10 words).

@Rusty Cogs wrote:

(hope there right :p )

Oh ye of little faith! 🙂
That art history degree has to be worth something…

Yep, ctesipthon’s right about no. 26:
A.Victorian
B.Georgian
C.Art Deco
D.Edwardian
& sure, I’d be happy to shout lunch in BT’s with my winnings! 😎

@Ruth Alexandra wrote:

Yep, ctesipthon’s right about no. 26:
A.Victorian
B.Georgian
C.Art Deco
D.Edwardian
& sure, I’d be happy to shout lunch in BT’s with my winnings! 😎

Well now just what is C

Modernist
International
or
Art Deco

or are they all the same ?:eek:

Surely it’s not Art Deco? It isn’t decorative enough.

My money’s on ‘International Style’.

From this Archiseek page.

I would agree with Ctesiphon on this. It is definitely not Art Deco. It is too subtle as far as I am concerned. ‘International Style’ is a much more accurate desctiption for this building. Interestingly, the full name for it, which is on one of the gate posts is ‘Geragh Haus’.

Totally agree but when compared with the other 3 choices it has to be post 1925 so must be Art Deco in the context of the question.

I think that this point highlights the lack of knowledge of architecture even amongst ABC1 types who are much more knowledgable on house prices as opposed to houses and buildings themselves.

More money for the architecture foundation to bring the built environment to the printed media would be a good start as it is I feel a fair comment to say that Ireland never had an Art Deco period but rather a smattering of buildings that mostly dissapeared between 1960 – 2000.

I’d go with Streamline Moderne for that one.

I have to agree with PVC King on this. I don’t believe they would have put a house in of ‘international style’ when so many of Joe Public would perceive it as Art Deco. I might just put in ‘International Art Deco’ to hedge my bets.

And now a nice cycle up the Quays in the rain to submit my answers.

@PVC King wrote:

Totally agree but when compared with the other 3 choices it has to be post 1925 so must be Art Deco in the context of the question.

I think that this point highlights the lack of knowledge of architecture even amongst ABC1 types who are much more knowledgable on house prices as opposed to houses and buildings themselves.

The date in this case is immaterial. It’s the style that’s sought, and that style is International Style. Many styles co-exist simultaneously- nineteenth century Britain saw buildings in Gothic, classical in a variety of forms, and other styles all being built within the same time span.
So please, Rusty Cogs, pay no attention to PVC King! Trust me on this one.

Also, PVC King, I don’t follow the logic of your argument re ABC1s. The only thing we know for sure about the members of this board is that we have access to the internet. Other socio-economic presumptions are just idle speculation.
Or were you referring to the readers of The Irish Times? In which case I’d ask, how can you tell the level of architectural awareness of IT readers from a few posts on an architectural discussion board?
Or were you referring to yourself only?

EDIT: Rusty Cogs- I’m serious on this one. PVC King is wrong. Don’t presume that the quiz is designed to be Joe Public-friendly. Any half-decent quiz should have a few questions to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Did you look at the link I posted above, under the picture of Geragh? In it, Paul Clerkin also describes it as International Style, and nowhere mentions Art Deco.
I’d go so far as to say that if the Irish Times believes it to be Art Deco, it’s wrong wrong wrong and should be challenged.

Anyway- it’s your choice. All I can do is give you my best advice. 🙂

Well the results are out on the 23rd so I’ll post the answers then which will either settle the debate or cause more controversey and dismay (if it’s listed as Art Deco).

Thanks for the help anyway guys.

I really don’t see why this would be described by anyone as Art Deco. Why should it be assumed that Art Deco is the answer being sought by the Irish Times?

Here is a quick reference about the house from Ireland and the New Architecture by Sean Rothery, p201:

Geragh, Sandycove, Co Dublin, 1937-38; Architect Michael Scott. The maritime references of early International Style architecture are all present in the house Scott built for himself. The curved bays complement the nineteenth-century stone fortifications and battery on one side and Martello Tower on the other.

This is from Chapter 8 entitled ‘The International Style Comes to Ireland’. (Chapter 7, entitled ‘Architectural Jazz’ covers Art Deco in Ireland.)

To be pernickity about things, how come the other three houses are being defined by period, yet Geragh according to architectural style? Surely the former three are variant forms of neoclassicism?
In that respect, I very much doubt the IT are looking for International Style, or at the very least have reason to put down any challenge made to that end.

Annoyed I missed the quiz – it sounds most interesting.

Graham, I would personally wait to see images of the other buildings before making a comment on them. From what I saw of the original question asked it seemed to refer to the style of the various buildings as oppossed to their period. Therefore the style of Geragh, as far as I am concerned is of the ‘International Style’ as oppossed to Art Deco. That said, there are certain styles that seem, over time, to have become associated with certain periods. Regency it would seem is a good example of this.

@GrahamH wrote:

To be pernickity about things, how come the other three houses are being defined by period, yet Geragh according to architectural style? Surely the former three are variant forms of neoclassicism?
In that respect, I very much doubt the IT are looking for International Style, or at the very least have reason to put down any challenge made to that end.

The long answer to that question would require too much time and detail, and there are countless books out there that would do a better job than I could in the time and space available to me here.

The short answer is that some periods are synonymous with certain styles – and equally some styles are synonymous with certain periods – and the question asked about the style one would use to describe buildings in four photographs. I have described the pictures briefly above- two redbricks, a rendered farmhouse and a modern yoke.

I see your point Graham, about neoclassicism, but to take that approach to its illogical conclusion all Western architecture is either classical or modern- when the Gothic revival came along the buildings were described as modern. And much of the architecture of the twentieth century takes classicism as its starting point, so International Style could be – and has been – described as ‘stripped classical’ (which is a version of neoclassicism, no?). And going one stage further, it could be argued that Gothic is a corruption of classical. Again, much has been written on the so-called ‘battle of the styles’.
However, to say Victorian is a period not a style seems to me very odd, because there is a definite vocabulary that goes with the term ‘Victorian style’ that separates such buildings from others built in a different variation of neoclassicism. And the same goes for Edwardian, and Georgian, and International Style. And Art Deco.
Equally, this vocabulary separates certain buildings built between 1837 and 1901 from other buildings built at that time that don’t exhibit the characteristics of ‘Victorian style’.

So I’d disagree that “the other three houses are being defined by period, yet Geragh according to architectural style”- I’d suggest they’re all being ‘defined’ by style and, as such, International Style is the correct answer to the question. That’s not to say, however, that it’s the answer being sought by the IT…:rolleyes:

Whichever way you view this debate, one thing’s for sure- Geragh is not Art Deco.

heheh – I know, I know ctesiphon. Just a provocative question to get the aul cogs going.

Are you that predictable? – not really.
Are you easily animated when pushed in a certain direction? – I think so 😀

@GrahamH wrote:

Are you that predictable? – not really.
Are you easily animated when pushed in a certain direction? – I think so 😀

Oh no- I am that predictable.:) But on the basis that others out there might not be so familiar with my expected response, I thought I should post.

And re being animated? You don’t know how true a statement that is…

The winners were announced in today’s paper, but the correct answers were not given. :confused:
Guess we’ll never know….

Very disapointed I didn’t win:( – Lunch in BT’s is off!
. . . off to read up on Art history . . .

I came fourth, my answer of ‘Intl Art Deco’ was accepted as correct. The IT said it so it must be true 😉

Well done.

Well thanks to everyone who helped on the site, as the cliche goes, I couldn’t have done it without you.

Yea, thanks everyone – it was a very enjoyable quiz!

So what did you win Rusty?

A €250 euro voucher- and the loss of anonymity!:)

So which answer for the question asked in the title of this thread was accepted – the incorrect one of the Millennium Tower (49m) or the correct one of Santry Cross (52m)?

@ctesiphon wrote:

A €250 euro voucher- and the loss of anonymity!:)

Get outta that garden, just coz my phony balony ‘intl art deco’ answer was accepted 🙂

Re: below, santry cross ‘aint built yet so Millenium is the tallest.

@Rusty Cogs wrote:

Get outta that garden, just coz my phony balony ‘intl art deco’ answer was accepted 🙂

Re: below, santry cross ‘aint built yet so Millenium is the tallest.

Eh Santry Cross was completed about a year ago and the hotel opened earlier this year.I’ve since heard the hotel is in the tower, meaning it’s not the tallest residential block.

But is the tower exclusively hotel or is there a residential element; the Millenium Tower equally has Ocean Bar over 2 levels so possibly it too may be disqualified on mixed use grounds.

@jdivision wrote:

Eh Santry Cross was completed about a year ago and the hotel opened earlier this year.I’ve since heard the hotel is in the tower, meaning it’s not the tallest residential block.

That I did not know. It would be harsh to consider the Millenium ‘mixed use’ because of the Ocean bar. The taller the block the more chance it’s going to have a retail unit at the base but it’s considered a residential development methinks.