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  • #725097
    takeda
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    Sorry about the lack off continuity, Im reading the glasgow architecture web pages and coming back to Irish Architecture. Anyway this hotel was done by gordon murray and alan dunlop who are also doing a building in Sligo. Are they Irish?

    #725098
    takeda
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    Obviously no one knows anything about these guys, so I’ll keep to Dublin.

    As an interested observer in Dublin architecture then, my favourite new buildings are the timber clad theatre at Trinity College which has a solidity and power which is impressive and the new housing in

    #725099
    takeda
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    Obviously no one knows anything about these guys, so I’ll keep to Dublin.

    As an interested observer in Dublin architecture then, my favourite new buildings are the timber clad theatre at Trinity College which has a solidity and power that is impressive like a roman seige tower and cries this is an important structure and the new housing in Temple Bar which I believe was done by the same Irish architects. It is well detailed, warm in its choice of materials fun.

    #725100
    Aken
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    Lucky you the Morrison is a fantastic hotel i especally like Halo (and if they want to offer me some freebies i will accept!). The Bilding you are refering to are the Civic offices at wood quay. However i dont share your affection for the said building, I dont have time to go into it now but that building sits atop some of the most important and significant Viking sites in ireland.

    #725101
    Anonymous
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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,906390,00.html

    Hi Takeda, thanks for your good wishes and for your comments on the Radisson.

    No we’re not Irish just good old Glaswegian architects who happen also to be working in Sligo.

    Attached is a piece on the Hotel by Jonathan Glancey

    http://www.glasgowarchitecture.co.uk is an excellent site to visit to get information on what’s happening in Glasgow. A city much like Dublin that is undergoing an architectural rebirth. The Civic Offices is by Ronald Tallon of Scott Talon Walker and like you I think it is an excellent building and what Viking ruins have to do with anything is beyond me.

    The Trinity building and the housing you refer to is by De Blacam and Meagher, I’m sure. Both are excellent You should also have alook at the new building by McCullough Mulvin, The Ussher Library, to see how you can detail stone and meaningful slots. Beautiful work, great for Dublin.

    #725102
    Papworth
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    I really like the Science Centre – beautiful work
    great for Glasgow.

    #725103
    cajual
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    what are ye doing in sligo?

    #725104
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    If you go to the news section of
    http://www.glasgowarchitecture.co.uk

    scroll down, I think about five items then you’ll see images.

    20 one, two and duplex apartments for a local developer next to the Court House.

    #725105
    cajual
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    wow, the drawings are really beautiful- good to see people still use pencils…. (please say it wasn’t done in photoshop or something:)

    in images 1&2 the building looks really well, unfortunately no. 3 looks like the developer/council got their hands on it, while image 4 looks like its taken from somewhere else completely!

    really good to see regional towns investing in real architecture at last… even though its still only isolated incidents

    #725106
    Anonymous
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    No photoshop Cajul, drawings all done by me and in 6b.

    Thank you for your frankness, that’s something I admire in our Celtic Brothers, lets just say the discussions with the council have been very positive but protracted. They have a very good architect in charge of the Council called Sean Martin, he has been a real help.

    The final drawing is from the carpark of McCullough Mulvin’s new art gallery and the courthouse tower is in the centre. The Tower is the marker for the town and our development although climbing to six storeys does not rise above it.

    #725107
    cajual
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    sorry, i probably came over a bit too critical- overall its very impressive, partly reminds me of the Salk Institute by Kahn (BIG compliment!)

    also, image 2 is at the back of the site i assume- is this a new street?

    #725108
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    jeez Cajual, The Salk Institute, indeed. Wait til my partner hears that.

    Gone home now to gloat and prepare for Liverpool vs Celtic.

    #725109
    proun
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    Good to see the glasgowarchitecture site being used, in fact the first Sligo image supercedes the third, but then you must have guessed….talking of slots, there’s a story about people getting lost in the extension to Edinburgh’s Museum of Scotland at http://www.edinburgharchitecture.co.uk/framesetnews.htm, the atmosphere is ‘presbyterian’ and ‘cloistered’.

    Alan’s brilliant pencil drawings are featured on both sites and represent more than a breath of fresh air against often tacky renderings, they show a totally different approach to the built form, its felt through the weight and stroke of ‘marker’, direct communication with the page and thus with the vision.

    #725110
    pvdz
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    The images explain the haptic vision for the future project much better than flash modelling companies do dont they. You get the sense that the architects know whats going on and that the project is not about a completely ocular obsession. I’d almost forgotten how powerful painterly impressions are compaired to by now irritating ‘is it for real?’ computer generated perspectives, they feel so hollow compaired to this.

    #725111
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Well thanks pvdz, but what haptic means I’m not sure.

    I see Dublin Architecture has been given the thumbs up by the Observer’s Architecture Critic, Deyan Sudjic, so it must be all right then after all.

    What a relief obviously for you all.

    #725112
    Hiivaladan
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    [quote=”As for the rest of UCD, during my time as a student there I never found much to elevate the spirit, architecturally speaking. I enjoyed my days in Earlsfort Terrace more, where I also took classes.

    .[/QUOTE”]

    My thoughts exactly.During my stay there, I found the Arts building terribly depressing, dark and gloomy. If you were feeling unhappy already, it would drive you into the pits of despair. It was crushingly cave-like and vast and impersonal like an airport concourse, It was built in grey concrete and a dreary grey brick, it seemed dark as a bag most of the time-November even in July-and the interior courtyards were filled with a sombre,creepy perennial weed-like shrub.Every part of the labyrinthine interior looked exactly the same as every other part and I’d still get lost more than a year after I had arrived. The restaurant was also vast and impersonal like a factory for eating (and I’m amazed that people here have nominated this as a favourite building of theirs in another thread).The whole place was incredibly bleak and soul-less.

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