Wexford Council wants "something more traditional"
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- December 19, 2006 at 8:41 pm #786602
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InactiveI like the description and parti of the sculpture but I feel it’s lacking the large scale legibility needed for a site like the Wexford quays.
Sometimes a random collection of objects is just a random collection of objects, albeit in this case with shiny pipes. Presumably because all pipes want to be shiny.
December 19, 2006 at 10:07 pm #786603Anonymous
InactiveIt is my understanding from reading Mr. Dessardo’s website that these artefacts are not just random but are remnants from the regeneration of the harbor in Wexford, which, dare I say allude to the ‘history’ of the town. To it’s industrial past maybe, they all look like articles of involved in heavy industry, perhaps?
I expect stainless steel would be shiny, a nice contrast to the preserved rusted elements. There is a narrative to this work which i seem to understand the more I view mr. Dessardo’s other work.
However, gray men in gray suits making decisions behind closed doors with opinion forged and influenced from god knows where, will only see ‘pipes’ and other ‘stuff’ and not a lovely statue of one of their inconsequential and forgotten town elders. C’est la vie, some may say. 😮
December 19, 2006 at 10:38 pm #786604Anonymous
InactiveThat’s kind of my problem with it. It’s trite. I find rusty metal on the site, I link it with quasi-industrial shiny metal which speaks more of oil refineries than a fishing town. There’s no engagement with the experiential quality of the place beyond the frankly uninteresting fact that these particular objects happened to be present, and the kinesthetic link seems to be limited to sitting on top of or beside things.
The alternative to this work is not a statue of a bloke on a horse, it’s possibly something a little less pointlessly abstruse and inaccessible. There is a didactic role for public art but it needs a much lighter touch than is evident here.
December 19, 2006 at 11:45 pm #786605Anonymous
Inactivefor all those against parochial art,this is hardly a choice between the two extremes!just because the council dont want something a group of travellers could have left behind dosnt mean they insist on some viking boat ,something strikingly modern in the right way would look great,but this dosnt.
December 20, 2006 at 12:33 am #786606Anonymous
InactiveExactly my point. Work like that can do more to turn people off contemporary design than engage them. Yes, not all art has to be comforting or safe, but something that tries to publically express a moment in or experience of a town should at the very least be handsome.
The selected scheme is not handsome.
December 20, 2006 at 12:34 am #786607Anonymous
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December 20, 2006 at 1:22 am #786608Anonymous
Inactive@helloinsane wrote:
is not a statue of a bloke on a horse, .
Sorry, a tangent here I’m afraid, but do people from BC really use the term ‘Bloke’ ?
are you of English heritage?When I was last in Gastown and I said ‘bloke’ people laughed at me ! ( at a very expensive Indian restaurant not far from the clock !)
December 20, 2006 at 1:34 am #786609Anonymous
InactiveI’m Irish. Grew up in Wexford.
I think I was just at that restaurant.
December 20, 2006 at 2:01 am #786610Anonymous
Inactivedo you know the Irish Bar not far from there ? can’t remember the name but they have a conservatory out the back where musicians occasionally play and they do sell good Scotch
by the way Helloinsane you said “he selected scheme is not handsome.” the problem is it was selected, then rejected. I think that is the main point of this thread.
People in the know select / Old men reject !
December 20, 2006 at 3:35 am #786611Anonymous
InactiveThe Irish Heather. I know it too well.
I’m playing devil’s advocate here – I’m beginning to suspect the councillors were right to reject the scheme, even if they did so for the wrong reasons. I’m also curious to know who the selection committee were and what the other proposals were like.
December 20, 2006 at 11:32 am #786612Anonymous
InactiveThe selection panel consisted of:
an Architect, Waterford City Council
an Artist & Arts Facilitator,
a Public Art Professional (ex-public art advisor Arts Council of Ireland)
an Artist / Sculptor
a County Councillor Wexford County CouncillorDecember 20, 2006 at 12:12 pm #786613Anonymous
Inactivesounds like a typical irish county council nonsense scenario… I hope it doesn’t put the artist off doing more of this. I’ve seen more details of the image and having had a good look, I think it’s pretty good. It’s a shame it won’t be built
December 20, 2006 at 3:24 pm #786614Anonymous
Inactive@dessardo wrote:
The selection panel consisted of:
an Architect, Waterford City Council
an Artist & Arts Facilitator,
a Public Art Professional (ex-public art advisor Arts Council of Ireland)
an Artist / Sculptor
a County Councillor Wexford County CouncillorDessardo..Are you the actual artist?
If so, can you explain your work to me?
December 20, 2006 at 4:23 pm #786615Anonymous
Inactivea clear expanation of the work is public on
http://dessardodata4.free.fr/webwex/files/press_dessardo_wexford.htmDecember 20, 2006 at 4:55 pm #786616Anonymous
Inactive@sfamato wrote:
Dessardo..Are you the actual artist?
If so, can you explain your work to me?
question 1) yes
question 2) here is also a useful explanation about the my artistic process :
http://dessardo.free.fr/site/html/statement.htmlDecember 20, 2006 at 5:34 pm #786617Anonymous
InactiveI’m very impressed with the selected sculpture – well done dessardo. I hope it gets built.
I hope your treatment by Wexford CC won’t put international artists off the idea of participating in the percent for art scheme (which is generally a good scheme).
December 20, 2006 at 5:54 pm #786618Anonymous
Inactive@Lotts wrote:
I hope your treatment by Wexford CC won’t put international artists off the idea of participating in the percent for art scheme (which is generally a good scheme).
I think it was Wexford Borough Council (ie the town corporation) that rejected the work, not the CC.
December 20, 2006 at 7:29 pm #786619Anonymous
InactiveApologies to the CC.
Shame on Wexford Borough CouncilDecember 20, 2006 at 9:05 pm #786620Anonymous
Inactivei personly dont like this work but i do think it is wrong the council could reject any piece of art that is given permission by a seperate body because they wont know good art from bad!they just happen to have made the right decision here.
December 21, 2006 at 11:20 am #786621Anonymous
InactiveI think the work is excellent, thought/work has gone into it.
Im confused is it still being rejected?
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