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  • #754658
    massamann
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    Words are failing me here. A giant rotating glass globe!!! Is somebody fricking kidding me!?! Will it be filled with snowflakes?? 🙁

    #754659
    Anonymous
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    @Tuborg wrote:

    All we need now are the other 8 planets in the solar system and we’re onto a winner!:)

    I can’t tell from the picture if that is even Limerick in the background. Where is this globe supposed to be placed? It sounds like a massive transparent EPCOT centre.

    #754660
    shanekeane
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    @massamann wrote:

    Words are failing me here. A giant rotating glass globe!!! Is somebody fricking kidding me!?! Will it be filled with snowflakes?? 🙁

    massamann, its because of complete cretins like u that potentially the most beautiful city in ireland is a fucking dump. why have interesting ideas when we can build more of the tat that they built on the dock road and henry st.

    #754661
    demolition man
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    Could be wrong here but it looks like its situated in the wetlands opposite of the clarion.If the city council allow any development in this nature reserve i will absolutly be seething.Maybe this was paris jack’s “uncle’s” infamous design?

    #754662
    justnotbothered
    Participant

    @shanekeane wrote:

    massamann, its because of complete cretins like u that potentially the most beautiful city in ireland is a fucking dump. why have interesting ideas when we can build more of the tat that they built on the dock road and henry st.

    You aren’t serious are you?

    This is clearly ripped off from the famous “sunsphere” episode of the Simpsons, what next, a monorail?

    #754663
    massamann
    Participant

    Ha Ha, Shane you are a hoot!

    For a second there, I actually believed that you thought the solution to Limericks image problems is to build a giant glass sphere. Yes, that would really improve things. Especially as it also rotates – surely that is the element that pushes this proposal from just being doggone fantastic into the realm of absolute genius. We can even pay for it from our billions of oil dollars. But wait! – we don’t live in Kazakhstan!

    Seriously man, if you think this would add ANYTHING to the city, then I’m happy to have to suffer your personal abuse. 😉

    #754664
    shanekeane
    Participant

    @massamann wrote:

    Ha Ha, Shane you are a hoot!

    For a second there, I actually believed that you thought the solution to Limericks image problems is to build a giant glass sphere. Yes, that would really improve things. Especially as it also rotates – surely that is the element that pushes this proposal from just being doggone fantastic into the realm of absolute genius. We can even pay for it from our billions of oil dollars. But wait! – we don’t live in Kazakhstan!

    Seriously man, if you think this would add ANYTHING to the city, then I’m happy to have to suffer your personal abuse. 😉

    Ya it would add at least one thing to the city: a giant glass sphere. Since the city currently consists mainly of badly maintained georgian buildings, a bunch of intimidating ugly central streets and a lifeless riverside, then anything out of the ordinary would make it better. I can’t imagine anybody even beginning to object in this fashion to the garbage that is the dunnes building on henry st., that marriott hotel building, the bank of scotland building, that ugly crap just being finished further up from it, the clarion hotel, the riverpoint building, and the entire dock road. Well that’s not working is it?

    #754665
    bonzer1again
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    Finally, The rumours come to an end with the announcement of plans for the Jesuit church. This Article appeared in the Limerick Chronicle. Enjoy the read!!

    Jesuit Church to be leisure centre

    By John Hogan
    AFTER 20 months of speculation about its future, it has been revealed today that the Jesuit Church is to be turned into a leisure centre.
    Plans have been submitted for a €12m development which includes a leisure centre and restaurant at the Sacred Heart Church in the Crescent.

    The former church was bought from the Jesuit Order in March 2006 by Galway-based businessman John O’Dolan, at a reported cost of €4m.

    John Kennedy of Elliot Design, who Mr O’Dolan contracted to draft plans for the building, said that proposals have been submitted to Limerick City Council for the installation of a leisure centre in the building.

    The proposed centre consists of a 20 metre swimming pool, a spa located in the basement, a 15,000 sq ft gym and a restaurant adjacent to the facility.

    #754666
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    The Vision of a Revitalised Limerick

    Peter Coyne / Edward Walsh

    The Fundamental Vision

    Arising from the 20 interviews with a selection of leading figures in the wider city area, a uniformity of expression was evident concerning the present state of the city and the fundamental or intuitive vision of its future:

    What Urban Limerick Looks Like

    • Retail moving out to suburbs – retail values falling;
    • Nobody manages the entirety of the city: it’s divided up between 3 competing local authorities;
    • Depopulating and looking a bit derelict;
    • It’s going nowhere – even though it could be great;
    • Little development compared to other cities;
    • No joined up thinking – or doing;
    • Economy hanging on a shrinking base;
    • Three huge concentrations of inner city deprivation;
    • City centre dragged down by social and economic imbalance;
    • No heart to the city;
    • Absence of vibrancy and culture;
    • The river could be so much more;
    • Hardly any tourism – very little to attract them;
    • Business areas abandoned after work;
    • The bigger city has no leadership;
    • The city is not embraced by the people – they don’t own it;
    • Not even a cinema;
    • Terrible reputation for crime that’s probably undeserved but these things are self-fulfilling;
    • There is no vision

    How Urban Limerick Should Look

    • A growing city for the region – could be a 250,000 metropolitan population;
    • A proper city with ambitious and accountable government with a can-do attitude;
    • A honeypot for inward investment – a counterbalance to the overheated east;
    • A bustling and exciting waterfront – an iconic heart to the city;
    • Vibrancy in the city centre – 18-24 hour city;
    • A critical mass of tourist attractions;
    • Family-friendly city with the homes and amenities that encourage people with economic choice to live in the city;
    • The retail centre for the region;
    • The university an inextricable element of the city brand – connecting socially and culturally with the city as well as economically,
    • New economic activities – a knowledge industry growth centre – renewed synergies with a growing 3rd and 4th level;
    • Excellent transportation infrastructure and interconnectivity with other Atlantic cities – people able to commute between them;
    • Docklands and King’s Island new and wonderful mixed use extensions to the city centre;
    • Several big civic pride icons – buildings and places to put us on the world stage;
    • Citizens taking pride and caring for their city;
    • Leadership;
    • A city known for arts and culture;
    • A city with a vision

    I see in tonight’s Limerick Chronicle that the Fianna Fáil County Cllr. Eddie Wade feels threatened by this independent report where he said that he had hoped that the recent boundary extensions “would be the end of it”, and called on Dr Walsh and Mr Coyne to explain their proposals to County Councillors in person.

    Maybe Cllr. Eddie Wade should explain to the Irish tax payers the economic logic of three local authorities administrating a city of 100.000 people? Or better still he should explain to their constituents in West Limerick as to why they are been off-loaded into North Kerry for future general elections? The Limerick County would had been better served by a central location of their county council offices in Newcastlewest , instead of planking it along side the Crescent Shopping Centre.

    #754667
    shanekeane
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    @bonzer1again wrote:

    Finally, The rumours come to an end with the announcement of plans for the Jesuit church. This Article appeared in the Limerick Chronicle. Enjoy the read!!

    what kind of a SOCIOPATH would even contemplate submitting an application for a gym in a nineteenth century church. and it’s not only the church, but the location. why, oh why couldnt they just have put the city library into it. if the years and years and years which planning regulations cause people to wait to get even minor things done in this country have any meaning whatsoever, this will not only not be considered, but the lunatic who suggested it will be exiled from this country never to return.

    #754668
    massamann
    Participant

    Surprisingly (to myself most of all), I’ve got to say that I agree with Shane on this one. If churches have to be converted, I’d much prefer they became public buildings instead of private spaces with crazy membership fees. For a reason that I can’t quite put my finger on, I’d feel so much better about it if it was a public pool that was going in, and not some fancy-pants private operation. Strange.

    Anyway, here’s a pic of a former Dominican church turned into a bookstore by Dutch architects Merkx + Girod. True, it’s not a library, but I have to admit it’s pretty tasty looking (I haven’t included the photo of the cafe section that includes a table in the shape of a crucifix – you’ll just have to look up their website for that particular detail!). Hopefully if/when the Jesuits is adapted, it’s to as high a standard as this.

    #754669
    justnotbothered
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    @shanekeane wrote:

    Ya it would add at least one thing to the city: a giant glass sphere. Since the city currently consists mainly of badly maintained georgian buildings, a bunch of intimidating ugly central streets and a lifeless riverside, then anything out of the ordinary would make it better. I can’t imagine anybody even beginning to object in this fashion to the garbage that is the dunnes building on henry st., that marriott hotel building, the bank of scotland building, that ugly crap just being finished further up from it, the clarion hotel, the riverpoint building, and the entire dock road. Well that’s not working is it?

    Oh please, a giant rotating glass sphere? Can’t to see this is just some sort of left over April fool joke?

    Also, judging by the artist’s impression, it’s being built adjacent to the Condell road, with in it’s current state simply can’t take any more traffic, traffic jams are stretching out towards the two mile inn at the minute, even if the tunnel does relieve some of the traffic problems, that shouldn’t be a license to fling more traffic on to the road.

    That parcel of land should be preserved and turned into a riverside park, the city needs more parks and green spaces before it needs giant rotating glass globes.

    Let’s make the city centre better by building things that make it a better place to live, like parks and playgrounds etc, not fanciful pie-in-the-sky projects.

    #754670
    ShaneP
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    I agree completely with the two posts above. Looks like another lost opportunity for Limerick is on the cards with that proposal, we can only hope the planners will agree. A new city library in the church building perhaps with the long anticipated arthouse cinema, housed in the adjoining buildings would seem like the most obvious use for the Jesuit complex. With all the recent reports and talk of regeneration of Limerick the city council and developers could put their money where their mouths are and take this opportunity to provide at least one interesting facility to entice people into the centre. Is there even a planner in Limerick with conservation expertise to deal with listed buildings? I don’t think the interior will fair too welI with a swimming pool.

    A swimming pool/ gym facility for the city centre would find an ideal location integrated with the River Shannon and could make for a second unique spectacular and practical addition to a regenerated city centre It could be designed to incorporate new public space, perhaps located around the Arthur’s Quay Park/ Dunnes Stores/ Sarsfield House area.

    The Dutch bookshop looks stunning, perhaps something for the Fransiscan Church to emulate when it becomes a library for Mary I? I tried to find some info on the ‘designers’ of the Jesuit Church scheme but there doesn’t appear to anything on the net.Information on the appliction has yet to be posted on the City Council site.
    I can’t help think of the vandalism that was carried out to one of the Georgian buildings on Glentworth St – not the Chinese restaurant that stuck some kind of a pagoda lookin thing on the front, but across the road where a large green extension was stuck on to the side of one the buildings in the middle of the street – think it’s used as the Youth Services building, sorry for lack of photo’s. It’s dreadful, would probably crack your computer monitors if Iposted it anyways.

    #754671
    ake
    Participant

    @bonzer1again wrote:

    Finally, The rumours come to an end with the announcement of plans for the Jesuit church. This Article appeared in the Limerick Chronicle. Enjoy the read!!

    AFTER 20 months of speculation about its future, it has been revealed today that the Jesuit Church is to be turned into a leisure centre.
    Plans have been submitted for a €12m development which includes a leisure centre and restaurant at the Sacred Heart Church in the Crescent.

    The former church was bought from the Jesuit Order in March 2006 by Galway-based businessman John O’Dolan, at a reported cost of €4m.

    John Kennedy of Elliot Design, who Mr O’Dolan contracted to draft plans for the building, said that proposals have been submitted to Limerick City Council for the installation of a leisure centre in the building.

    The proposed centre consists of a 20 metre swimming pool, a spa located in the basement, a 15,000 sq ft gym and a restaurant adjacent to the facility.”

    Is this guy fucking insane?

    Tell me this is a joke.

    #754672
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    A leisure centre? Sounds more like some Turkish Bath house…

    #754673
    ShaneP
    Participant

    @Dan Sullivan wrote:

    A leisure centre? Sounds more like some Turkish Bath house…

    Why? All the descriptions say leisure centre/ gym/ spa!

    #754674
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @ShaneP wrote:

    Why? All the descriptions say leisure centre/ gym/ spa!

    Just considering the interior decor of a church with a pool in the floor, it simply sounded like some Russian steam house or bath house.

    #754675
    shanekeane
    Participant

    @justnotbothered wrote:

    Oh please, a giant rotating glass sphere? Can’t to see this is just some sort of left over April fool joke?

    Also, judging by the artist’s impression, it’s being built adjacent to the Condell road, with in it’s current state simply can’t take any more traffic, traffic jams are stretching out towards the two mile inn at the minute, even if the tunnel does relieve some of the traffic problems, that shouldn’t be a license to fling more traffic on to the road.

    That parcel of land should be preserved and turned into a riverside park, the city needs more parks and green spaces before it needs giant rotating glass globes.

    Let’s make the city centre better by building things that make it a better place to live, like parks and playgrounds etc, not fanciful pie-in-the-sky projects.

    this is a completely serious suggestion: why dont we knock down the whole city centre from roches street right up to st. mary’s cathedral and replace it with an interconnected menagerie of giant spheres, like some crazy sci-fi film. might be the first time in history that anything original was done in limerick.

    #754676
    bonzer1again
    Participant

    Originally Posted by bonzer1again
    Finally, The rumours come to an end with the announcement of plans for the Jesuit church. This Article appeared in the Limerick Chronicle. Enjoy the read!!

    I made the post to clear up some of the rumours that had been circulating, such as the rumour that it was going to be made into a nightclub. That rumour having recently been given legs by the fact that the developers also bought the adjoining “Kennedy O’Brien’s” Pub.

    I personally believe that it’s a shame that such a wonderful building will be reduced to the same classification as a sports complex. However having said that, at least it will still be a building in use by the public all be it on a limited and paid basis, as opposed to it becoming private offices.

    With regards churches becoming libraries, is that not still the plan for the Franciscan’s church on Henry street, or have the talks with Mary Immaculate College come to a halt?

    #754677
    scitilop
    Participant

    @bonzer1again wrote:

    I made the post to clear up some of the rumours that had been circulating, such as the rumour that it was going to be made into a nightclub. That rumour having recently been given legs by the fact that the developers also bought the adjoining “Kennedy O’Brien’s” Pub.

    I personally believe that it’s a shame that such a wonderful building will be reduced to the same classification as a sports complex. However having said that, at least it will still be a building in use by the public all be it on a limited and paid basis, as opposed to it becoming private offices.

    With regards churches becoming libraries, is that not still the plan for the Franciscan’s church on Henry street, or have the talks with Mary Immaculate College come to a halt?

    Seeing as though Kennedy O’Brien’s in now closed (sob), I really hope the knock that building. Actually, knocking the two following buildings on Lower Hartstonge Street would do no harm.

    The idea of putting in a library – while it would be a great use for the Jesuits building, its not the best location for the City Library, which needs a new modern building with plenty of natural light near the riverfront. Otherwise, why move it out of the Granary?

    While I’m personally not against the idea of using the church for a leisure centre (if it’s done properly), the idea of continuing to hold masses there once it is a leisure centre is absolutely farcical! Finally, the biggest issue for me in relation to a leisure centre on this site is parking. Having lived on The Crescent and experienced the traffic chaos that is Tutorial at 9pm, having a gym, where the the healthy members absolutely must park as close to the door as possible is going to be problematic

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