well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?
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Word through the varous grapevines is that the residents of O’Callaghan strand intend to object to the re-development of the strand. This is a huge pity, the strand is completely neglected and is in real need of renovation. If done properly, we could develop a promenade from Thomond Bridge to Barrington’s pier that would rival Salthill’s prom. I’m referring to simple things like wider footpaths, flower beds and seats.
I have posted several times that I object strenously to the any proposed development on the Westfields side of the river between the Shannon Bridge and Barringtons pier, we should be seeking to integrate the wetlands into the city by providing proper access through better footpaths, viewing stations and street lighting.
@jimg wrote:
ParisJack, you really have some neck to be criticising or questioning CologneMike. If it wasn’t for his contributions in particular (along with those of some others like Tuborg, justnotbothered and more recently GMiley), this thread would be dead long ago. If your contributions had even 10% of the value of his, they’d be welcome. For me, your contributions, while prolific, are of negative value as the thread would actually improve if all your posts were to disappear.
The lack of self-awareness is simply shocking if you think your postings are “out-spoken, no-bullshit” additions to the thread and that your saying something “that needs to be said for the sake of Limerick”. They are just randomly directed unconstructive incoherent general rants and ramblings. This combined with your inexplicable need to regularly restate pompously that you are successful at whatever it is you do makes for an unattractive package overall. I generally try to ignore everything you write and I’ve successfully resisted the temptation to respond to the more inane of your ramblings since our last exchange of views but I’m worried your contributions might actually kill off this thread particularly when you start attacking the most valuable contributor to this thread.
Ahhahahah…you really are a funny guy jimg! You should try stand-up sometime. How long did it take for you to write that pile of nonsensical monkey crap? Did you get out your mommy to help? Did you have to get your stack of dictionaries and thesaurus out? Oh man you really need to grow up and stop being such a brown-nosin’ wimp! Grow a pair and be a real man! I mean, what is all that supposed to mean? Is it actually an attempt to provoke me? To get me going somehow, or what? Oh you’d need to be up early in the morning to get one over on me! In fact, you could never get up early enough! You tell me that I ramble on, well maybe you’re right here, I do at times I suppose, but is it any effin wonder when I have to listen to absolute gargage coming from people like you who couldn’t find their own ass if they had twenty hands, let alone listen to them go on about things they have no idea about!
Pathetic attempt at trying to wind me up jimg… I almost feel sorry for you! I’ve seen more ass than a rental car son, you on the other hand are most likely some pimply-faced little know-it-all kid who has a chip on his shoulder, that’s obviously waaaay too heavy for him! On your best day you don’t even come close to my worst!
Oaky…hmm…lets talk about what this is clearly all about shall we… You are still pissed off at me for what I had said to you some time back, right? Now, if you had read my post properly, before running off at the mouth, you would have seen I wasn’t talking directly to you! But, how many times, or what language do I need to use for you to understand this? You just don’t seem to get it!? But then again, you’re one of those people who you need to explain everything a million times over, and still you don’t get it!? What the hell? Oh well…
As for ColgneMike, I never disputed Mike’s contribution to this thread – not once! Where did I say that? Yes, his contribution is the best on here, by far, and as you also conveniently “forgot” to mention in your sad little ravings I have never said any different! Mike’s contribution is awesome, no argument there, but that still doesn’t give him the right to patronize people on here just because they don’t offer/contribute as much! Where are all your contributions? Yeah, exactly! I can only speak for myself here, and if you read my posts with your eyes actually opened, you would understand that I DON’T LIVE IN LIMERICK!! So, I am not in a position to contribute very much, apart from my opinion! Of course, I am not so scared or such an ass-kisser that I can’t think or speak for myself! I haven’t been to Limerick in many many moons, so that’s your answer! I am intending on contributing much much more to this thread when I actually get over to Ireland, and I am really looking forward to it, but right now my work is keeping me very busy throughout Europe, and beyond!
It’s also rich that you accused me of rambling and what not, but listen to yourself dude! Just read your own post! Jesus, talk about the pot calling the kettle black! I believe that’s called HYPOCRISY!! Take out your stack and check it out if you don’t believe me!
Lastly, don’t you ever and I mean ever lecture me on what I can and can’t say, you understand? Try that with someone who is willing to listen to that shite, but not with me! Everybody on this thread has the equal right to express themselves without having to fear some kind of backlash! And you bud, have absolutely no right to tell anyone what they should and shouldn’t be saying! And I thought it was a free country! I can’t believe you could accuse me of having such neck, and then two seconds later you try the same thing with me? Don’t even think about it son! That shite doesn’t work with people like me!
Here’s a little tip for your future, though small, it will save you a great deal of personal agony, humiliation, embarrassment and disappointment in life: always engage your brain before you engage your mouth!!!
It’s comin’ to something when so-called grown men can’t even agree to disagree about something!
Guys I come onto this thread looking to find out about the developments popping up in the shannonside NOT f**king catfights.
So can we please just stop?@PoxyShamrock wrote:
Guys I come onto this thread looking to find out about the developments popping up in the shannonside NOT f**king catfights.
So can we please just stop?I totally agree, but just as long as everyone on here has equal rights! Is that too much to ask for?
Paris Jack, this is a private messageboard, it’s not a democracy and you aren’t entitled to free speech here, as what you say can get the owners of this site sued. You might be unable to express yourself without using offensive language and terms of abuse in the real world, but around here, it only makes you look like a short tempered fantasist.
You are entitled to your opinion, but you should limit yourself to criticising other’s opinions not actually criticising other people.
Now, for the love of God, discuss things like an adult and stop the continual invective.
@justnotbothered wrote:
Paris Jack, this is a private messageboard, it’s not a democracy and you aren’t entitled to free speech here, as what you say can get the owners of this site sued. You might be unable to express yourself without using offensive language and terms of abuse in the real world, but around here, it only makes you look like a short tempered fantasist.
You are entitled to your opinion, but you should limit yourself to criticising other’s opinions not actually criticising other people.
Now, for the love of God, discuss things like an adult and stop the continual invective.
First time I ever heard anyone say that! Not entitled to free speech I mean. Fair enough, but why are you only telling me? There are others on here throwing abuse around also! Oh I can express myself perfectly well without having to use offensive language, but why should I just sit back and take abuse from others? I do have the right to stand up for myself…or do I?
I’m speaking from experience, I’m a mod on a different board and we often have to remove libelous material.
Of course you have a right to express and defend yourself, but it’s a complete turn-off to considered debate to be confronted with a barrage of personal abuse. It’s hard to take serious points on board when they are expressed in a scatter-shot manner with a liberal use of seemingly random “swear” words.
As far as I can see, most other posters refrain from using offensive personal insults, you often don’t. it only makes your argument look weak. The best way to counter a point you disagree with it is to set out rationally, concisely why you consider it to be flawed.
@justnotbothered wrote:
I’m speaking from experience, I’m a mod on a different board and we often have to remove libelous material.
Of course you have a right to express and defend yourself, but it’s a complete turn-off to considered debate to be confronted with a barrage of personal abuse. It’s hard to take serious points on board when they are expressed in a scatter-shot manner with a liberal use of seemingly random “swear” words.
As far as I can see, most other posters refrain from using offensive personal insults, you often don’t. it only makes your argument look weak. The best way to counter a point you disagree with it is to set out rationally, concisely why you consider it to be flawed.
Look justnotbothered, you don’t have to patronize me, alright? I do understand what you are saying, and how to make my point, even if I do get a little crazy at times! I know it’s not cool, and I do feel bad afterwards, believe it or not, it’s just that I have inherited my father’s short fuse when it comes to certain things …
As you said, most, but not all posters refrain from such behaviour, so again, why aren’t you telling them also?
I suppose I’m not Irish, or Limerick enough, huh? My mother is Parisian, so maybe I’m just not green enough???
I’m not intentionally being patronising, but lets remember what this thread is for, it’s to discuss and debate the developments in Limerick, not to engage in abusive arguments. It’s not up to the other posters to accomadate your bursts of temper, valid or not. I don’t mind where you’re from, as long as you have an interest in Limerick then that’s all that’s needed for this thread.
I don’t really know which other posters engage in the behaviour I criticised, some do, I was replying to your points about Mike and JM above.
@justnotbothered wrote:
I’m not intentionally being patronising, but lets remember what this thread is for, it’s to discuss and debate the developments in Limerick, not to engage in abusive arguments. It’s not up to the other posters to accomadate your bursts of temper, valid or not. I don’t mind where you’re from, as long as you have an interest in Limerick then that’s all that’s needed for this thread.
I don’t really know which other posters engage in the behaviour I criticised, some do, I was replying to your points about Mike and JM above.
I can accept that. I do only come on here to see what’s going on in Limerick basically, because I am genuinely interested, so for now, I can only give my opinion on what I see, and hear.
But I feel it is unfair of you to just have a go at me, when there are others at the top this page doing the same thing I have been accused of! How come you’re not telling jimg or Mike the same thing? What about their points towards me?
@justnotbothered wrote:
The Kerry Co-Op site has such huge potential, it really needs to be managed properly. I would rate the ESB site and that site as the two most important sites in developing Limerick. We also badly need to address the failure that is Liddy st and the 2 storey Dunes stores.
ESB / Henry Street Garda Station Sites
If my memory serves me right the Bank of Scotland acquired the ESB site when they took over the ESB Electric Shops nationwide. I think they put the Limerick ESB site on to the market soon afterwards? If so I wonder who bought it?
Next door the Georgian building of Bord na gCon’s Headquarters will come on to the market in a few years time. That is if they successfully build their new stadium.
I heard to my dismay at home that if the Limerick Garda Headquarters were to move, then a possible candidate site could be the open green area next to the people’s park?
It would be ideal if the ESB / Garda sites could be developed as one development plus integrating the two Georgian buildings on Henry Street with them!
Interesting would be also to see as to what type of building that would go up along side the Riverpoint complex. Especially the apartments from phase two of the Riverpoint could lose out on light if a new building went directly up alongside?
Great pics Mike!!! That’s more like it! Did you take these yourself? I was waiting to see some real quality pics of Riverpoint, especially Phase 2! Got some friends here at the moment who are looking them over! Those are the best pics I’ve ever seen of Riverpoint!
Thanks!:D
Oh anyone know who is handling the sales side of these apartments? Riverpoint Phase 2, I mean. I’ll bet they’re real expensive too! But I feel they’ll be worth it simply because of the location! An excellent investment without doubt! Will fetch a small fortune on resale! I just hope the quality of the build and the specifications inside and out are top notch! They do look very nice though, should be a great deal of interest from investors, business entrepreneurs and the such!
How many apartments are there in Phase 2?
@CologneMike wrote:
ESB / Henry Street Garda Station Sites
I wasnt aware the Bank of Scotland had sold on the ESB site, whoever has bought it are certainly taking their time, although they’re probably waiting to see what becomes of Henry Street garda station first as that site is pivotal to the regeneration of this section of the riverfront and also Henry street itself of course.
Taking the two together, its a fairly irregular site and any new development will have to be worked around two georgian buildings (104 & 105 Henry St) Its probably the most important development site in Limerick at the moment, lets hope its owners come up with the goods! A red brick box wont do here!Despite Henry Street station being just over 30 years old, Michael McDowell announced last year that the Dept of Justice were on the lookout for a new headquarters in Limerick alhough Henry Street got some funding for refurbishment works earlier this year so any move to a new location could be some time off yet! I hadnt heard the rumour about the Peoples Park, it sounds too ridiculous to be true surely? I could be wrong here but are there not plans floating around for the replacement of Mary Street garda station? Could they not take it one step further and build the divisional headquarters there?
Incidentally next door to Henry Street barracks, there are plans for a refurbishment of Estuary House, (an early 1980s office building) to provide new retail floorspace.
The transformation of Henry Street has been fairly remarkable, its hard to believe that only around 10 years ago it was basically derelict! Spaights, the Savoy, the Carlton, bedford motors have all been redeveloped. The ESB/ Garda Station Sites would be the final piece of the jigsaw!
105 Henry Street
The refurbishment of Lord Limerick’s:rolleyes: House by Murray O Laoire actually won a European conservation award back in 1987!
This project involved the renovation and extension of a Georgian Town House in Henry Street, Limerick, for commercial uses comprising offices and an Art Gallery / Restaurant. The building is of singular architectural importance in the context of Limerick and had been derelict for a number of years.
At the time, the development demonstrated the viability of conserving derelict period buildings in a city with severe problems of Urban decay.
The project received the prestigious Europa Nostra Award for Conservation and Restoration in 1987.
During the 1780’s Edmund Sexton Pery, speaker of the Irish House of Commons, and raised to the peerage as Viscount Pery, built two splendid houses on this elevated site commanding a grand panoramic view of Cratloe Woods and the Clare Hills – one house for his own family and one for his brother, William Cecil, who had been consecrated Bishop of Limerick in 1784. In 1874, the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, the Duke of Rutland, during his visit to Limerick, was entertained at the house and stayed over at the Palace next door. However, following the pomp and splendour of the first half of the 19th Century, Lord Limerick’s beautiful mansion was turned into a linen store by the Russell Family who had their spinning and weaving mill right across the river at Lansdowne shipyard.
The house then became the Headquarters of the Diocesan Seminary, better known as St. Munchins College. It became vacant again nearly 50 years ago when the college moved back to its old parish, and since then its structural decline was kept in tune with the lack of interest in its preservation.
MOLA were comissioned in 1985 to totally refurbish the building. The works included total refurbishment / renovation of the house and the addition of a second bowed return.
Attached are some retro pics from the 1980s! Unfortunately the area in front of the building is still being used as a surface car park!:(
New-Build 138-Bed Co-Located Private Hospital (Beacon Medical Group)
MÓL-BOCA is part of the consortium that was awarded the tender to develop a 138 bed co-located private hospital at the Mid-Western Regional Hospital in Limerick with the Beacon Medical Group.
The winning design is organised around two major features. The first is the existing hospital chapel, a protected structure, which the new main hospital concourse is designed to complement. The second is the new internal courtyard space to the north, which the main patient clinical areas will overlook, which allows the benefits of natural light and ventilation to be maximised for the whole hospital.
In addition, the proposed new development incorporates a single new concourse for both public and co-located hospitals, designed around a single reception from which all areas in both hospitals are accessible. A new patient transfer link on the first floor directly above the main entrance is designed to provide a dedicated link to facilitate the transfer of patients and specialists between the hospitals.
The new hospital development includes:
- An Admissions / Assessment Unit comprising of six Treatment / Examination bays
- Six new Operating Theatres; a Critical Care department
- An Interventional Cardiology Unit comprising of two Intervention suites and full Recovery area
- A Treatment / Examination area including Echo, ECG, Stress Testing and Pulmonary Function areas
- Seven 25 bed in-patient wards providing a total complement of 175 in-patient beds
- An Ambulatory Surgery Unit
- An Endoscopy Suite
- A Physiotherapy department comprising of a small gym area together with six Treatment areas
- A Medical Oncology department comprising of ten Treatment cubicles set out in a large open planned bright space
- A Diagnostic Imaging department with CT, MRI, PET Scanning and Angiography facilities
- A Pharmacy
- A Consultants Suites comprising of 10 no. Consulting / Examination rooms
Looks a bit like a multi-storey car park to me. it’ll be interesting to see how the finished article turns out! The project is moving along pretty quickly, after all its only a matter of weeks since the regional was announced as one of the pilot locations, although we shouldnt be surprised I suppose seen as it is a private development!
The regional has been starved of funding for a good while now and no significant development has taken place there in the last 10 or 12 years. I seem to remember Michael Martin doing a good job in providing plenty of funding for Cork university hospital, pity our local politicians are so toothless! Personally I dont really agree with the co-location system but I guess if the regional isnt going to get any public money, its certainly better than nothing!
I think the new hospital is being built on the site of the former nurses station?, there seems to be quite a bit of vacant land available to the rear of the existing hospital although im not sure if these form part of the hospital grounds! I wonder are we any closer to seeing the regional maternity re-locating to Dooradoyle? its been on the cards for quite a while now without any real movement! Apparently the HSE were/are keen to offload what is a highly valuable site on the Ennis road!
I know it’s not related to architecture, but I’m surprised there is no mention of the terrible decision to halt Aer Lingus flights from Shannon to Heathrow.
Does anyone have an opinion?
As a Corkman I would like to offer my support to the people of the mid-west region. Commercially you cannot blame Aer Lingus for wanting to target an area of greater critical mass so as to maximize profits. Although I’m not sure if they have calculated (‘sliced and diced’ to use their own language) the cost of goodwill and brand loyalty from the Irish people.
Without wanting to get political, the government’s decision to float Aer Lingus was short-sighted in the extreme and the Provincial Ireland will suffer as a result. It is only a matter of time now before they begin to move some of the long haul routes to Belfast.
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