well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?
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- July 29, 2007 at 10:21 pm #754438
THE_Chris
ParticipantShannon will come into its own much better once the roads are done.
Once Limerick – Galway is all Dual Carraigeway (DC)… not long now, Crusheen – Gort and Gort – Oranmore are both probobly starting next summer. And once Cork – Limerick is DC… and with the Limerick Tunnel… its an hour tops from Cork to Shannon and from Galway to Shannon. That’ll make Shannon more important than it is, because it’ll be accessible in a sane amount of time from a much larger area 🙂
July 30, 2007 at 2:31 pm #754439vkid
ParticipantWill be good to see this site moving on. Modifications approved very quickly. Anyone seen images of what is planned here?
Ley’s Development Ltd
to modify a previous planning permission granted under planning reference 02/270 at No.’s 44, 45, 46 and 47 Thomas Street (No.47 Thomas Street, currently known as No. 1 Catherine Street) and No’s 2, 3, 4and 5 Catherine Street. This application includes for the construction of a mixed development of retail units at ground and basement level, offices and retail at first floor level, offices at 02nd to 4th floors inclusive and 7 apartments at 5th floor level including all associated site works and demolition of the existing premises including the residential accommodation over at No’s 44, 45, 46 and 47 Thomas Street (No. 47 Thomas Street currently known as No. 1 Catherine Street) and demoliton of the existing premises at No’s 2,3,4 and 5 Catherine Street. 44, 45, 46 and 47 Thomas Street
(No. 47 Thomas Street Currently know as No. 1 Catherine Street, Limerick
& Nos. 2-5 Catherine Street, Limerick.July 31, 2007 at 10:28 pm #754440Anonymous
InactiveTuborg, I thought I post a few more images to your previous post on the two developments by Robert Butler on O’Connell Street and Henry Street. Even though I share your views as to what happened to no’s 103 and 104 O’Connell Street, still my curiosity as to what effect will these two developments will have on the Post Office Lane and even to Lower Cecil Street? This part of Lower Cecil Street has great potential on both sides of the street.
July 31, 2007 at 11:17 pm #754441Anonymous
InactiveForeign Affairs Building Site (Update)
07295 (26/07/2007)
Change of use from retail to use for the preparation of freshly baked Italians Pizzas for home delivery with ancillary customer collection, fitout, building mounted signage and ancillary works
5 Hartstonge Gate
23-27 Henry Street
LimerickImagine the Apartments are being sold for €370,000 with full luxury fit-out and now the developer applies for permission to put in a take-away underneath them. 😮 It’s a bit of a misfit?
August 1, 2007 at 6:38 pm #754442Paris Jack
Participant@justnotbothered wrote:
The problem is the City Council is made up, for the most part, by extremely unambitious “journeymen” politicians who get dazzled by any buzzwords the developers throw at them.
Thank you! I’ll buy you a pint if I ever run into you mate!;) Nice to see someone around here is actually using their brain!
And why the hell do you think these halfwit, cowboy “developers” are getting away with all of their horseshit little projects/developments also eh? It doesn’t take a neurosurgeon to figure that one out! These aresholes are only interested in making a quick cheap buck out of anyone they can fool with their bollocks “luxury” apartments!:mad: They don’t care about what the street, or the city looks like, they only care about what money they can con out of know-nothin’ fools who don’t do their effin homework properly! I deal with scum like this almost on a daily basis, so I know their game very well indeed!
As justnotbothered said, these”journeymen” are a huge part of the problem in LCC! They’d green light anything, just as long as there is some money to be made out of it! And this is why you end up with so much rubbish in Limerick… and how many times have we’ve seen this over the years?
I’d like to kick their effin arse let me tell ya!:mad: 😡 😡
August 1, 2007 at 9:47 pm #754443Paris Jack
Participant@tfarmer wrote:
The government is investigating the possibility of building a 2,000 capacity conference centre in the Limerick area in an effort to boost tourism in the mid-west
what?? a conference center to boost tourism. Thats just farcical. No tourists visit countries or areas because of a friggin conference center. I also agree that putting it in shannon makes no sense. In fact whats the purpose of building it at all we already have large amenities for this sort of event in the university of limerick. Another waste of money.
Here’s another man I have to buy a pint for! How in the name of jaysus is a conference centre supposed to boost tourism in Limerick City? What will they think of next? What a load of cobblers! To boost tourism in the mid-west eh? Nobody, but nobody visits anywhere just because of an effin conference centre! For the love of christ what is the attraction? That’s absolute garbage!:mad:
I agree it should be in the city, but lets get an effin grip here guys! I can think of about one hundred more important things Limerick City needs! And a conference centre (although would be nice to have it in the city) is not even on that list!
August 1, 2007 at 10:24 pm #754444Paris Jack
Participant@CologneMike wrote:
Regional Conference Centre:confused:
Hmmm…….. If Dublin has the National Conference Centre and since it could be located near Shannon Airport well why don’t we call ours the International Conference Centre instead! 😀 Man this Dublin mind-set that everything outside the capital has to be downsized to it!
This is exactly the mind-set in Dublin! Downsize, or better still (in their opinion of course) – nothing at all! This is how they operate/do business there! The bottom line here is that Dublin, Ireland’s beloved Capital:rolleyes: , are supposed to get the best and biggest of everything, and everywhere else outside of the Capital…well gets sweet F all! It’s true! If anything major is happening in Ireland then Dublin has to have it! My own grandfather (on my father’s side) came from Dalkey and told me this himself for many years! Why? Because Dublin is supposed to shine as Ireland’s capital and be on top of everything! This is why I know for a fact that when seriously big developments do start to appear in Limerick in the future they won’t like it one little bit! There’ll be a lot moaning no doubt!:D
Oh, congratulations Limerick for their victory over Clare and reaching the all-Ireland semis’!:D
August 1, 2007 at 11:30 pm #754445Anonymous
InactiveRiverside Projects
Phase 1: Curragour Bund / Clancy Strand has already started. 🙂 Looks like as if the digger has to work on a tidal shift basis at the moment.
Phase 3; Harvey’s Quay will start in 2008. I took a few images of the cut-stone quay wall. I was impressed with the quality of the building work that went it to. It must be 150-200 years old now? Note the individual steps of the slipway. 😎 They are in fact slabs of stone stacked vertically. I believe a boardwalk is planned for Harvey’s Quay which will do untold damage to the cut-stone quay wall. Does this have to be?
August 2, 2007 at 2:03 am #754446tfarmer
ParticipantParis Jack wrote:Thank you! I’ll buy you a pint if I ever run into you mate!]If theres one thing about irish people its they certainly don’t learn from their mistakes. Your right about the cowboy developers building anywhere and everywhere they see space, my area has changed so much in the last 10 years its almost unrecognisable and its not for the better either. Im all for economic growth but to me a lot of this building thats going on is building for the sake of building with no concern for the surrounding environment. Depressing.
August 2, 2007 at 4:12 pm #754447Anonymous
InactiveHealthy Debate
Any chance of raising the bar a bit when posting, constantly heaping the same tirade of abuse when commenting on any topic brought up here is uncool! Seriously, is this an “Agony Aunt†page to offload personal frustrations for being irish or a forum dealing with “well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?†I think if people have something to contribute then why can’t it be positive in nature and constructive in it’s criticism. Other wise this thread will just take a nosedive.
August 2, 2007 at 4:44 pm #754448vkid
ParticipantQFT Mike. Some awful irrelevant contributions recently..
Ps…any chance of laying off the bold print (even just a little bit):)August 2, 2007 at 7:07 pm #754449Paris Jack
Participant@CologneMike wrote:
Healthy Debate
Any chance of raising the bar a bit when posting, constantly heaping the same tirade of abuse when commenting on any topic brought up here is uncool! Seriously, is this an “Agony Aunt†page to offload personal frustrations for being irish or a forum dealing with “well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?†I think if people have something to contribute then why can’t it be positive in nature and constructive in it’s criticism. Other wise this thread will just take a nosedive.
Well you know Mike, I live in a free democratic society so I can say whatever the hell I want whenever the hell I want! I haven’t built up a brilliant career out of pussy-footin’ around like a lot of these clowns in Limerick! I have what I have because I work hard, and I know what I’m doing, again unlike these morons in LCC!
But I do agree with you to a point, there is a lot of negativity around here, but is it any effin wonder? There are no doubt a lot of good things happening in Limerick, but there is also a great deal of crap too! And the longer people ignore this problem then the longer it will be allowed to go on! You’re going to end up with sections of Limerick City looking real good, while other huge sections looking like something straight out of the 1920’s!
The main reason I get very frustrated about this is because I really believe Limerick City has the potential to be the best city in Ireland! But it is constantly let down by bastards who just turn the other way and ignore the real problems going on! You don’t have to be the biggest city in the country to be the best either! Dublin is a poor excuse for a capital IMO! LCC are only interested in lining their pockets and are holding the city back!!! They’re allowing braindead money-grabbin’ idiots who clearly know nothing of true and quality architecture to slap up mountains of cheap-ass crap and nobody is doing anything about it! Ghettos of the future???
As I’ve said, stop pussy-footin’ around in Limerick, stop ignoring the truth, do what needs to be done to make Limerick a truly great European riverside city and just bloody well get on with it!!! Talk is cheap, we need action in Limerick!!!
Well go right ahead, ignore the real problems and you’ll see exactly what you’ll be admiring in about ten years time!
August 3, 2007 at 2:46 am #754450tfarmer
Participant@CologneMike wrote:
Healthy Debate
Any chance of raising the bar a bit when posting, constantly heaping the same tirade of abuse when commenting on any topic brought up here is uncool! Seriously, is this an “Agony Aunt†page to offload personal frustrations for being irish or a forum dealing with “well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?†I think if people have something to contribute then why can’t it be positive in nature and constructive in it’s criticism. Other wise this thread will just take a nosedive.
sorry for having an opinion and here was me thinking this was a forum with which you are free to express your opinion. Here’s the thing though, as the above poster has pointed out there would no need to be negative if negative things weren’t happening. The irish construction industry and these cowboy builders are ruining my local area building anywhere and everywhere they see land. I just took a walk today and some of the buildings and houses they are building are in the most awful unsuitable places which in turn is creating eyesores. But the thing is these guys don’t care as long as they are making money.
There is no thought put into the construction or the effect on the local enivornment and its ruining the area and im sure its not only in limerick its happening. If im complaining about it its because it matters to me and i would think a lot of other people too would care about their environment. The stupidity and greed of these people is what makes me most angry. There should be laws in place that state certain areas are off limits for building for the good of the environment or else ireland will become a concrete jungle like the u.k. We are repeating the bad planning and building practices of the 1960’s and 70’s.
August 3, 2007 at 9:54 am #754451justnotbothered
ParticipantI think there is merit in what Mike is saying, but as the farmer points out, poor architecture leads to poorly designed areas and social problems.
On the otherhand, I heard there is more kite-flying in relation to building on the Westfield’s nature reserve which will no doubt be welcomed by all those who get impressed by shiny drawings that lead to drab buildings. I heard the name Healy Gottstein being thrown around, anyone familar with thier work?
August 3, 2007 at 2:44 pm #754452Paris Jack
ParticipantDoesn’t matter what anyone is saying, and as tfarmer also pointed out justnotbothered, everyone here is entitled to voice their own opinion and has the right to express themselves anyway they see fit!
It’s true, I don’t live in Limerick, so I don’t have to put up with their half-assed caveman approach to what they call “architecture” but I can understand people like tfarmer who are obviously frustrated and quite angry about what these halfwits are doing to his local community! They see any available plot of land and then off they go! Lets just build another red brick piece of crap and pass it off as “luxury” apartments, or whatever else for a few hundred grand! They might as well print suckers all over the advertisement boards!!! People like Michael Daly are getting it right, but unfortunately, there are one too many cowboys running around Limerick who jumping on the bandwagon and the end result will be a very dull, boring and uninteresting city centre in the years to come! It’s blatantly obvious that these morons don’t have a clue what they are doing…and yet everybody just sits back and looks on:confused: Well, between LCC and these “property developers” you’ve got a beautiful future!!! Like I said, they’d green light anything, just as long as there is plenty of money to be made out of it!
People can bury their heads in the sand all they want and choose to ignore the truth! It’s their funeral in the end!
August 4, 2007 at 11:43 am #754453Anonymous
Inactive@Paris Jack wrote:
People can bury their heads in the sand all they want and choose to ignore the truth! It’s their funeral in the end!
Very true Jack, ignoring negative posting could be the threads funeral in the end.
By “raising the bar†I meant of course in the interest of the thread itself.
The truth is by taking a negative attitude in expressing your opinions it just turns people off from engaging in discussing new topics any further! Look at the crap you hurled at jimg, it certainly wasn’t very positive in nature?
@Paris Jack wrote:
Originally Posted by jimg
I actually thought you were joking with your first message and thought it was hillarious.Of course you thought it was hilarious jimg, developments like this don’t happen in Limerick, or anywhere else in Ireland for that matter. But I’ll bet anything on the fact that if this project does get the green light then you’ll be the first one running over the Shannon bridge to have a good look, right? Of course, I’ll be standing at the opposite side of the bridge with a big fucking sign in my hands: NO FUCKING WANKERS ALLOWED!!! And how funny will that be, eh? Now you know who we’re talkin’ about here, right dude?
By the way topics on Limerick scumbags, Dublin journalists, Munich women, Shit holes etc, etc. are best dealt with on the Limerick Boards. Here it’s all about Bricks and Mortar!
@Paris Jack wrote:
It seems to me you need Charles Bronson in Limerick City these days! Little anti-social know-nothing bastards who throw fuel on the fire for that scum in Dublin! And that’s what they call responsible journalism eh?
I am sick and tired of people coming up to me on the streets of Paris and Barcelona telling me what a fucking tip and quote “unfriendly shite hole” Limerick City is! I’m running out of patience trying to defend this scum! I’m NOT talking about the vast majority who are perfectly fine, I’m talking about that lowlife crud who don’t give a toss about nothing but themselves! What the hell is going on over there? They need to get their fucking act together in Limerick! And they ask why Limerick’s name is MUD!?
Just today, I had a woman from Munich tell me it was the worst experience she has ever had on vacation in Ireland. Everything was fine…until she arrived in Limerick and Dublin… She was verbally abused, robbed, treated like she had the plague in her HOTEL believe it or not, etc, etc. Don”t need to fill in the blanks for you!
Limerick City’s reputation is NOT deserved…but they do need to BADLY put their house in order!!! It’s the same story in Dublin – the biggest SHIT HOLE in western Europe!!! Nice going huh?
By constructive criticism I meant one argues his/her case as to why he/she disagrees with any given topic. Reacting for example to the “Conference Centre†by dismissing it out right by calling it “farcical†in your very first line just kills off engaging with you in a discussion on it’s merits!
@tfarmer wrote:
what?? a conference center to boost tourism. Thats just farcical. No tourists visit countries or areas because of a friggin conference center.
Hey instead of generalising be specific about what area and developments you are talking about otherwise nobody knows exactly what you are on about.
@tfarmer wrote:
The irish construction industry and these cowboy builders are ruining my local area building anywhere and everywhere they see land. I just took a walk today and some of the buildings and houses they are building are in the most awful unsuitable places which in turn is creating eyesores. But the thing is these guys don’t care as long as they are making money.
August 4, 2007 at 1:48 pm #754454Paris Jack
Participant@CologneMike wrote:
Very true Jack, ignoring negative posting could be the threads funeral in the end.
By “raising the bar†I meant of course in the interest of the thread itself.
The truth is by taking a negative attitude in expressing your opinions it just turns people off from engaging in discussing new topics any further! Look at the crap you hurled at jimg, it certainly wasn’t very positive in nature?
By the way topics on Limerick scumbags, Dublin journalists, Munich women, Shit holes etc, etc. are best dealt with on the Limerick Boards. Here it’s all about Bricks and Mortar!
By constructive criticism I meant one argues his/her case as to why he/she disagrees with any given topic. Reacting for example to the “Conference Centre†by dismissing it out right by calling it “farcical†in your very first line just kills off engaging with you in a discussion on it’s merits!
Hey instead of generalising be specific about what area and developments you are talking about otherwise nobody knows exactly what you are on about.
Mike, with all due respect, why do you feel you have to explain every little detail to us? Hmm….is there some other problem here, or what? We’re not ten years old you know! We perfectly understood everything you spoke about the first time round! You don’t have to keep explaining every single word to everyone like they have special needs or something! Please stop trying to patronize people here Mike with all of this condescending immature crap! You can’t stop people from venting their own opinions and frustrations, no-matter how hard you try! That’s what it means to have a two-way discussion, or a fifty-way discussion for that matter! People are perfectly entitled to spaek their minds! You would think that people on this forum would be mature and grown up enough to understand that! We can all still be friends and agree to disagree without attacking each other!
You conveniently “forgot” to include when I explained to jimg what I really meant by that statement also! Again, I was not talking directly to jimg! I specifically explained that!
Bottom line here is that I’m a very out-spoken, no-bullshit kind of guy! I like to tell it how it really is! I don’t like crap and I don’t like people who pretend to be something they are clearly not! It’s just a pity more people on here don’t tell it how it really is!!!
Mike, you do not solve problems by burying your head in the sand – you have to face them and deal with it! I’ve never run away from anything or anyone in my life, that’s how my mother raised me, and that’s the way I am! While some people are discussing “bricks and mortar” ?(red bricks I’m assuming:rolleyes: ) and back lanes and alleys, some of us are looking at ways of building beautiful buildings and bringing some real architecture and a real sense of style and quality to Limerick City! You have absolutely no idea as to some of the lenghts I am going to to try and achieve this!!! Are these the actions of a guy who hates Limerick, Ireland, etc, etc! The frustration comes from when we are subjected to people in Limerick (elsewhere in Ireland too, I know, but we are discussing Limerick here so that’s all that matters) who are who are clearly braindead when it come to construction and quality architecture! And it rolls right off their backs! Why? Because they don’t care, and because there is plenty of money to be made out of rubbish!! Hundreds of grands for what? I wouldn’t board my fucking dog in some of those “luxury” apartments/complexes!!!
People need to come together here and discuss why, and how Limerick should really change/look! Wouldn’t that be interesting!? Talk about what really needs to be done to bring Limerick in line and make it a city that people love and care about! By using all the negatives and positives of course! Limerick City (and I’ve said it a million times) has fantastic potential, big open broad streets, great location in Ireland, and of course, the beautiful Shannon river straight through the middle … but, this is a city that has been, and is continually let down terribly over the years!:(
August 4, 2007 at 4:43 pm #754455jimg
ParticipantParisJack, you really have some neck to be criticising or questioning CologneMike. If it wasn’t for his contributions in particular (along with those of some others like Tuborg, justnotbothered and more recently GMiley), this thread would be dead long ago. If your contributions had even 10% of the value of his, they’d be welcome. For me, your contributions, while prolific, are of negative value as the thread would actually improve if all your posts were to disappear.
The lack of self-awareness is simply shocking if you think your postings are “out-spoken, no-bullshit” additions to the thread and that your saying something “that needs to be said for the sake of Limerick”. They are just randomly directed unconstructive incoherent general rants and ramblings. This combined with your inexplicable need to regularly restate pompously that you are successful at whatever it is you do makes for an unattractive package overall. I generally try to ignore everything you write and I’ve successfully resisted the temptation to respond to the more inane of your ramblings since our last exchange of views but I’m worried your contributions might actually kill off this thread particularly when you start attacking the most valuable contributor to this thread.
August 4, 2007 at 4:56 pm #754456tfarmer
Participanti can understand the frustration to be honest in here. Some posters are getting fed up of negative threads but on the other hand some posters are annoyed at the lack of progress in certain areas(myself included). These are both understandable viewpoints but im sure its something that can be ironed out between the members.
The thread is going way off topic to be honest and its probably best to put an end to the bickering now. The problem is probably from my point of view is that whilst there is a lot of building going on in limerick ie bricks and mortar as the above poster puts it there is no real thought or effort put into the effect on the surrounding environment
Its like a mind control building project where every new development is begining to look the same and is being constructed at a record pace in large numbers. Every piece of spare land around me is being swallowed up and no open space is being left. Unfortunately there is no one who will take these concerns seriously and no outlet to express these, It seems the powers that be will never allow that.
August 4, 2007 at 5:40 pm #754457Anonymous
InactiveHey jimg thanks for the flowers! Looks like I will have to buy you a pint at the pub overlooking the Curragours Falls sometime. 😉
tfarmer, if you are from I Limerick then you sound like to be talking about the Ballysimon / Castletroy area? Student apartment blocks? retail parks? Could you be more specific?
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