well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

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  • #754358
    ShaneP
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    EML architects were responsible for the design of Cruises Street, as far as i know.

    #754359
    dave123
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    @vkid wrote:

    There’s a good image on the front of the Leader today but i’ve no scanner. Lots of tall/glassy/shiny buildings
    Main points are
    – New civic and cultural center with European style open spaces including a floating concert arena(?), swimming baths, waterways center, pedestrian bridge and water features
    – A new high rise business district at Bishops Quay to compliment The Riverpoint
    – A new city village with redevelopment of the Watergate flats area and redesign of the Milk Market area
    – A retail district to include the demolition of the Cruises street area
    – Full Georgian city regeneration with the development of winter gardens and quality mews at the rear of buildings with high quality residential in the upper 2 floors and basements with retail/office on ground and first floors

    Will be no loss to see the back of Sarsfield house. It is planned to be replaced by a glass tower based loosely on the idea of the Beetham tower in Manchester.
    Seems this all could be part of the earlier talk of demolishing the Pennys/Debenhams/Arthurs Quay/Liddy Street area’s and now also includes the Cruises street area. I assume the opera Center will be worked in there somehow.
    Interesting to see new(ish) structures like Arthurs Quay and Cruises Street being demolished..all less than 20 years old. Same with the Savoy in recent times. 80’s developments were never pretty in Limerick anyway so no loss imo.

    I’d imagine the liddy/AQ SC and pennys is part of the new plan. It would be well odd, if these grand plans for the city got the go ahead, with still one massive eysore still left to face in the city.

    The CBD at Bishops Quay with tall buildings is defenately a thumbs for me! It would give Limerick a sense glory and a new found confidence with all the gleaming glass high rises facing the onto the city and the river Shannon. It would be some sight coming from Caherdavin!…

    What are the plans for cruise’s street if its get’s knocked?

    #754360
    Paris Jack
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    @Irishjon25 wrote:

    This is The Unicorn today.

    Minus the pool table 🙁

    Oh thanks for the pics Irishjon, it’s so nice to actually “see” the old place again!:) It does look nice.

    Pity about the pool table though eh? That’s too bad:(

    #754361
    Tuborg
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    Im beginning to lose track of all these masterplans that are being dreamt up, each one bigger and bolder than the last! We’ve had the Docklands regeneration plan (going nowhere fast!), the Opera centre (still in limbo!) the Aurthurs Quay/Liddy Street area, the new iconic/landmark structure for the city and now this! Theres nothing wrong with stimulating debate but you would have to wonder will the proposal ever get off the ground? is it too radical for Limerick?

    Certainly the idea of demolishing Cruises Street is an intriguing one, the units there are quite small for modern retailing requirements and its long term future is probably uncertain. Its incredible to think that the lifespan of certain developments is now so short, Cruises Street only opened in 1992!

    #754362
    Paris Jack
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    @vkid wrote:

    There’s a good image on the front of the Leader today but i’ve no scanner. Lots of tall/glassy/shiny buildings
    Main points are
    – New civic and cultural center with European style open spaces including a floating concert arena(?), swimming baths, waterways center, pedestrian bridge and water features
    – A new high rise business district at Bishops Quay to compliment The Riverpoint
    – A new city village with redevelopment of the Watergate flats area and redesign of the Milk Market area
    – A retail district to include the demolition of the Cruises street area
    – Full Georgian city regeneration with the development of winter gardens and quality mews at the rear of buildings with high quality residential in the upper 2 floors and basements with retail/office on ground and first floors

    Will be no loss to see the back of Sarsfield house. It is planned to be replaced by a glass tower based loosely on the idea of the Beetham tower in Manchester.
    Seems this all could be part of the earlier talk of demolishing the Pennys/Debenhams/Arthurs Quay/Liddy Street area’s and now also includes the Cruises street area. I assume the opera Center will be worked in there somehow.
    Interesting to see new(ish) structures like Arthurs Quay and Cruises Street being demolished..all less than 20 years old. Same with the Savoy in recent times. 80’s developments were never pretty in Limerick anyway so no loss imo.

    Interesting stuff alright…hmmm… Is this all just a proposal, or what? You mentioned Sarsfield House… Is this the building directly behind Arthurs Quay? Wasn’t it a tax office, or something like that? Now that is one ugly building so I hope this is the one you’re talking about here!? For sure, Sarsfield House will be no loss! If they’re planning on putting a building “based loosely” on the Beetham Tower in Manchester will it be of similar height? I believe the Beetham Tower is something like 48-50 storeys, right? The Beetham Tower is not a beautiful building by any means, but it is an interesting building alright. I think the Hilton Hotel group have a branch there, and it’s also residential. It would be very nice indeed if they put a tower somewhere on this scale down there… now that would raise a few eyebrows eh?:D

    Cruises Street will be no loss either, I mean, lets face it, it has never worked! It hasn’t lasted 20 years and it’s ready for the chop already! And they demolished a 200-year-old hotel for this!:mad: Stupid arseholes!!!:mad:

    Yes, a new high rise business district would be very chic indeed! If it’s done right of course. That’s a really good idea actually.:)

    A floating concert arena? Where? Well, it does sound nice…on a quite evening out and all that…but I just can’t see Metallica ripping into Master of Puppets down there, can you?:D Now don’t get me wrong, I do think it’s a very nice idea… but I would absolutely love to see a proper full size concert arena in Limerick City. Ask yourself, when any international acts come to Ireland, where do they play? It’s always Dublin, right? When they come to England they go all over the place i.e London, Manchester, Birmingham, etc. So, why not Limerick? If Limerick City could build something fitting of international acts then it would be just amazing! Think of the boost to local businesses it would/could make in the city centre alone i.e Hotels, B+Bs, food outlets, bars, nightclubs, etc, etc. And why not? It can be done! They need to think outside of the box, bigger and better and look at the real picture here! As tfarmer said in his post, Dolans as the only place where bands can come and play in Limerick City is just not good enough! He’s so right!

    #754363
    Paris Jack
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    @Tuborg wrote:

    Im beginning to lose track of all these masterplans that are being dreamt up, each one bigger and bolder than the last! We’ve had the Docklands regeneration plan (going nowhere fast!), the Opera centre (still in limbo!) the Aurthurs Quay/Liddy Street area, the new iconic/landmark structure for the city and now this! Theres nothing wrong with stimulating debate but you would have to wonder will the proposal ever get off the ground? is it too radical for Limerick?

    Certainly the idea of demolishing Cruises Street is an intriguing one, the units there are quite small for modern retailing requirements and its long term future is probably uncertain. Its incredible to think that the lifespan of certain developments is now so short, Cruises Street only opened in 1992!

    I totally agree with you here Tuborg, it seems like it’s all turning into some kind of big sick joke at times….:confused: All of these “masterplans” and “landmarks” too radical for Limercik? Could be!? But I’ll tell you one thing, they better pull their finger out real fast and start working on Limerick City CENTRE! It’s in a shocking state!:(

    Opera Centre or no Opera Centre, Docklands regeneration masterplan or whatever, they need to start asking themselves some serious questions down there at city hall! It’s imperative that the city centre is prioritized, if not, you could very well be looking at the worst ghetto in Ireland within ten years!

    More and more people/businesses are relocating to the suburbs…and for good reason! If they really want people to work and live in the city centre then they seriously need to stop talking bollocks and do what needs to be done to achieve this! There’s no point in talking the big talk all the time, the SPIN will only go so far, eventually there needs to be some hard and deliberate action! IMO if you announce it, then fucking build it!!!

    Yes, it’s hard to comprehend the fact that an entire street that opened in 1992 will/could be completely demolished!:eek: And make way for what? More of the same? Personally I don’t care if they flatten the whole block, it’s been a complete and utter failure, but I dunno, this is just more proof that there are some very serious problems in Limerick City Centre!:(

    For demolition: IMO anyway…

    -Brown Thomas/Todds building (disgraceful piece of crap)
    -Bank of Ireland (ugly rubbish. whole block should go)
    -Penneys (what the hell is this supposed to be?)
    -Dunnes Stores, Sarsfield St. (embarrassing, major eyesore, disgraceful)
    -Arthurs Quay (yet another failure., prime location for a real landmark building/structure)
    -Sarsfield House (just ugly and useless)
    -Red Brick crap beside Riverpoint (disgusting)

    There are more, but if this lot can be cleared and decent quality buildings with at least some architectural merit put in their place then you’ll be definitely heading in the right direction!:) 😀

    #754364
    PoxyShamrock
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    @Tuborg wrote:

    Anyone know when these two photos were taken?

    #754365
    Tuborg
    Participant

    @PoxyShamrock wrote:

    Anyone know when these two photos were taken?

    Around 2004/5 I would say!, I still cant believe what they did to Matthew Stephens, it would’ve been more in their line to replace those horrible plastic windows!:mad:

    #754366
    Paris Jack
    Participant

    Is Matthew Stephens the place where they put that big stupid window? Next to Easons? :confused:

    #754367
    THE_Chris
    Participant

    Passed Rossbrien interchange yesterday… massive earthworks done, one of the loops forming. Main bridge pilings are in too.

    God they’re flying at this 😀

    #754368
    PTB
    Participant

    Does anyone know anything about this floating arena? Whats the technology behind it?

    #754369
    Tuborg
    Participant

    @PTB wrote:

    Does anyone know anything about this floating arena? Whats the technology behind it?

    Its just a very vague idea at the moment with no hard information on it, there isnt even a mention of a possible location yet! Its probably just pie in the sky stuff!

    #754370
    tfarmer
    Participant

    @Tuborg wrote:

    Its just a very vague idea at the moment with no hard information on it, there isnt even a mention of a possible location yet! Its probably just pie in the sky stuff!

    Its probably just a man made island with a big shiny concert dome on the top of it. The best place to put it would be smack bang right in the middle of the docklands yard where the ships come in. It would look great from the point of view of people approaching from the north circular road.

    #754371
    tfarmer
    Participant

    Something like this i think would be a prefect location for it.

    #754372
    Paris Jack
    Participant

    @tfarmer wrote:

    Something like this i think would be a prefect location for it.

    Interesting alright tfarmer… but I’d still rather see a boating Marina and real luxury apartments there. It’s just perfect for it! That way people can really enjoy the experience of living on the Shannon all year round, don’t you think? I’m very much in favour of a concert arena for the city centre but not on the water! Surely there are enough adequate plots within the city centre itself to put such a potentially fantastic project!?

    #754373
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Absolute Hotel

    Some views of the nearly finished Absolute Hotel (Abbey river). The boardwalk was getting it’s final touches during the week. I presume it is a public way (see blue arrows) and access under the Abbey bridge will re-open when work is completed. A foot bridge from here to Groove island / canal bank would work well here.

    #754374
    PoxyShamrock
    Participant

    @CologneMike wrote:

    Absolute Hotel

    Some views of the nearly finished Absolute Hotel (Abbey river). The boardwalk was getting it’s final touches during the week. I presume it is a public way (see blue arrows) and access under the Abbey bridge will re-open when work is completed. A foot bridge from here to Groove island / canal bank would work well here.

    Sorry to burst your bubble CologneMike but The Absolute Hotel has been open since February/March. I was there for a meal in April.

    #754375
    Paris Jack
    Participant

    @PoxyShamrock wrote:

    Sorry to burst your bubble CologneMike but The Absolute Hotel has been open since February/March. I was there for a meal in April.

    That’s actually true – you’ve been BUSTED CologneMike!!!;)

    That white (grey?) cladding looks pretty okay, that’s not a bad looking building… but why in God’s name didn’t they do the entire hotel the same way:confused: 😡 What’s with the red bricks???:mad: Arrrrghhhh!!!:mad: Of course I’m assuming that those red bricks are part of the hotel:D

    Hey PoxyShamrock, what’s the food like there?

    #754376
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Marriott Hotel – Savoy Complex

    Before I get another bubble burst, the Hotel is opened and work-in-progress on the retail units is quite advanced. The façade to the Marriott is very attractive and gives this part of the city a little cosmopolitan feel to it. The restored warehouse and the Hotel side by side are quite a contrast!

    The lane at the rear of the hotel has great potential for development (Shannon Street). The garden feature on the third floor is done very well. Image 5 and 6 taken at the junction of Bedford Row. I think both the Savoy complex and the Harvey’s Quay complex across the road complement each other.

    #754377
    tfarmer
    Participant

    @Paris Jack wrote:

    Interesting alright tfarmer… but I’d still rather see a boating Marina and real luxury apartments there. It’s just perfect for it! That way people can really enjoy the experience of living on the Shannon all year round, don’t you think? I’m very much in favour of a concert arena for the city centre but not on the water! Surely there are enough adequate plots within the city centre itself to put such a potentially fantastic project!?

    True but id imagine that the surrounding area ie the dockland harbour (if you could call it that) would be developed. Also and from a space point of view i dont think there would be enough room to fit a large concert dome such as those seen internationally. In the end of the day thats just my opinion it remains to be seen what they actually have in mind.

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