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  • #754198
    justnotbothered
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    The plans I was made aware of were of a four story glass building with Limerick boat club occupying the ground level, the other 3 floors given over to the developer, it’s pretty ugly, imo. I imagine the 20 story plan is just to get people used to the idea so four stories will seem small by comparison.

    #754199
    dave123
    Participant

    Duplicate post.

    #754200
    dave123
    Participant

    I have recently looked at a recenty all Ireland survey property supplement on the Irish times given by Myhome property team.

    It showed that Limerick County had the highest growth in residential property between 1997 to the Present (2007).

    It’s starting to catch up with the regional cities. This means people are moving here and becoming an attractive place to live and work. The rate of growth in Residential prices was only match by Offaly and in third place was Meath. Louth actually saw a drop in prices this year. Surprising figures.

    I will post the exact figures on a later date.

    #754201
    hailtothechimp
    Participant

    @CologneMike wrote:

    Check out the house numbers by viewing the reports, directions and orders at An Bord Pleanála. see link

    I have. See below:

    Demolition of Nos. 4, 5, 6 & 7 Rutland St., Nos. 6 & 7 Patrick St., No. 3 Ellen St, and Eurosurf and Workspace buildings on Michael St.]

    So basically 4, 5, 6 & 7 Rutland St are to be totally demolished while 8 & 9 will have their facades retained. I can’t quite visualise that. I’d need to go down and check, but if anybody can name the shops/businesses that were in those numbers I’d be grateful.

    It appears that the building housing the Limerick Post is to be left alone. If so, I wonder why The Green Onion has vacated the place? It would be an absolute travesty if such a fine structure was interfered with.

    @CologneMike wrote:

    By the way have you heard any news on the proposed Film House for the Belltable?

    It’s been 3 years or more since the 750, 000 Euro was allocated for the redevelopment of the Theatre Royal as an art house cinema. I haven’t seen any movement whatsoever on it since then. I wish I knew what was going on. It’s getting ridiculous at this stage.

    #754202
    dave123
    Participant

    Boundary extension

    There are some people holding this city back…

    It’s people who object to the Boundary extension. I can imagine people from outside this country would laugh at this petty issue which has being on the agenda for the last 30 years…

    I do not even blame the Government entirely either.

    It has not got a boundary extension since 1950 and 50% of the population is now outside the city boundary at present[/B]. Planning is not balanced out and there are two development plans for this city. Limerick county plan (involves 50% of the city) and the City development plan itself. which is stupid. . City is continuing to spread out into Clare and Limerick with no proper infrastructure or planning.

    The polictians here and leaders of this city cannot agree or sit down at a table As this city is divided now into three constituencies I.e. 50% of limerick city is in it’s boundary, 40% in Limerick county and 10% falls into Clare. Limerick is in also now reaching the Tipperary border at Newport.

    This carry with on with keeping this city underbounded with no proper planning is unacceptable and not in the best interest of Limerick city and region as a whole.

    This city is losing out as result of these County cavemen around the table fighting over land that is naturally part of this city.

    Areas such as Moyross, Parteen and neighbouring regions is part of the Limerick agglomeration but are within In Clare and Limerick County These areas are substandard, inadequate and very accessible compared to the areas within the city limits. Many locals have constantly complained to the County council to improve roads around the area. “Where is the money going”

    All the money coming from these suburbs within Limerick city whether it’s rates, levies, new developments etc etc. are being transferred to less well off regions of Clare and Limerick county to their improve roads, housings, schools etc… Which is fine if Funding is balanced. Limerick city council is only scraping by and is only making a marginal profit because of it’s high rates. Now It’s further pushing businesses to move out of the city into the suburbs creating a dougnut effect. Limerick County and Clare are happy to see. A city needs to deveop in and then outwards not the other way round.

    The Government should act urgently, to make the decision to go ahead with the extension and bring it under one super authority.

    It would bring back investment into the entire region and will prosper. The monopoly of this city cannot remain in the hands of the Limerick/Clare county councils 🙂 It’s being dragged on for too long and now needs national attention as the boundary issue cannot be hands of local politicians no more!

    Figures from CSO (Central statistics office)
    Area Sqm Pop
    Limerick 2,035 52,539
    Cork 3,961 119,418
    Galway 5,025 72,414
    Waterford 4158 45,748

    #754203
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @hailtothechimp wrote:

    So basically 4, 5, 6 & 7 Rutland St are to be totally demolished while 8 & 9 will have their facades retained. I can’t quite visualise that. I’d need to go down and check, but if anybody can name the shops/businesses that were in those numbers I’d be grateful.

    It appears that the building housing the Limerick Post is to be left alone. If so, I wonder why The Green Onion has vacated the place? It would be an absolute travesty if such a fine structure was interfered with.

    What you listed is the original planning proposal as in the inspectors’s report. This had been rejected in part by An Bord Pleanála. The conditions laid down for 4, 5, 8 and 9 Rutland street are in the Board’s Direction see Link

    CONDITIONS (No. 2)

    (A) The Georgian period buildings No’s 4 and 5 Rutland Street shall be conserved and repaired. The new build shall not oversail the retained No’s 4 and 5 Rutland Street.

    (B) The front facades of the Georgian period buildings No’s 8 and 9 Rutland Street shall be conserved and repaired generally as indicated in the revised drawings submitted to the planning authority on the 12th April 2006, but the design of the ground floor shall be revised to reflect the existing shopfronts, with two main doorways, and the ground floor façade shall be integrated into the new build (that is there shall not be a second, hidden façade behind the ground floor façade).

    I understand that 6 and 7 Rutland Street will be demolished as planned (were these two buildings not rebuilt in the early 1980’s?)

    The Green Onion Restaurant and the Limerick Post are in the Old Town Hall building. If the Old Town Hall had a house number then it must be number 10. Therefore it is as far as I know not part of the Opera Centre proposal.

    Curiously enough in the same building is the Griffith College (Mid West Business Institute) and was there not reports recently by them that they were looking for a larger building? If so what will become of the building?

    Have there been any signs around that they are starting this Shopping centre at all.

    #754204
    PoxyShamrock
    Participant

    @CologneMike wrote:

    Have there been any signs around that they are starting this Shopping centre at all.

    Yes, there has. Many of the businesses on Patrick Street have relocated including Primrose Beauty and Emerald Alpine. Workspace will be closing in Late May and Eurosurf is gone. The Post and Fat Zoes are to be relocated in Early Summer.

    As for actual construction, there doesn’t seem to be any except for two weeks ago when i saw a few surveyers and men in suits in the laneway between Emerald Alpine and Fat Zoes. I also saw them later that day up alongside the old Cahill May Roberts Building beside Trinity Rooms.

    #754205
    Tuborg
    Participant

    @CologneMike wrote:

    I understand that 6 and 7 Rutland Street will be demolished as planned (were these two buildings not rebuilt in the early 1980’s?)

    The Green Onion Restaurant and the Limerick Post are in the Old Town Hall building. If the Old Town Hall had a house number then it must be number 10. Therefore it is as far as I know not part of the Opera Centre proposal.

    Curiously enough in the same building is the Griffith College (Mid West Business Institute) and was there not reports recently by them that they were looking for a larger building? If so what will become of the building?

    Have there been any signs around that they are starting this Shopping centre at all.

    It seems strange that the tenants of the old City hall are moving out as this building clearly isn’t part of the opera centre development. Although further up on Patrick Street, Ger Hartmann has moved his sports injury clinic out to the University and emerald alpine are moving to Roches Street in May, again these buildings don’t form part of the planning application.
    Is there any chance the developers have bought up these premises to complement their opera centre and give then access to the laneway between Patrick & Rutland Street? Does anyone know who owns the old City hall]
    The existing historic doorway of Bruce’s Bank is afforded an important prominence by its setting within an entirely glazed 3-storey façade.
    [/QUOTE]

    You would’ve thought that the project would be up and running by now, seen as it is over 6 months since ABP gave the final go ahead, the site hasnt been secured yet and there isnt any hoarding up either. Patrick Street has a fairly eerie feel about it at the moment with most of the businesses gone. Just across the street from the proposed entrance to the Opera Centre, the old Ormstons building (see image below) has come on the market again, it’ll no doubt be much sought after given its location. Meanwhile at the other end of the opera centre the Sarsfield Bar has been vacant for 3/4 years now, surely now there will be renewed interest in this fine building!

    #754206
    mccoy
    Participant

    1st time user here. Was just wondering does anyone have contact details or information on the Riverdeep consortium that has plans for the Westfields site on the North Circular road?? Trying to get comment or interview from them for a documentary?

    Cheers.

    #754207
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Foreign Affairs Building Site (Update)

    Previous Post

    07148 Due date 17/06/2007

    Permission is sought for the construction of an extra floor at roof level, making a 7 storey building, alterations and extension of fifth floor and alterations to layout at ground floor and basement. Elevation changes and ancillary works. 23-27 Henry Street
    Limerick.

    Does this mean that the roof is to be converted into an extra floor or the height of the building will be increased by an extra floor? Will it oversail the Georgian buildings at the Cresent or is this modification purely along the Henry Street side of the development and not in it’s core?

    Corner Thomas and Catherine Street

    07142 Due date 14/06/2007

    Ley’s Development Ltd

    Permission to modify a previous planning permission granted under planning reference 02/270 at No.’s 44, 45, 46 and 47 Thomas Street (No.47 Thomas Street, currently known as No. 1 Catherine Street) and No’s 2, 3, 4 and 5 Catherine Street. This application includes for the construction of a mixed development of retail units at ground and basement level, offices and retail at first floor level, offices at 02nd to 4th floors inclusive and 7 apartments at 5th floor level including all associated site works and demolition of the existing premises including the residential accommodation over at No’s 44, 45, 46 and 47 Thomas Street (No. 47 Thomas Street currently known as No. 1 Catherine Street) and demoliton of the existing premises at No’s 2,3,4 and 5 Catherine Street.

    Billy, looks like nothing more happening here for a few months until the above modification to the original planning permission is granted. I wonder will this six storey development keep in line with the Georgian buildings on the other side of Thomas street? Has anybody seen drawings of this development?

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    #754208
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @mccoy wrote:

    1st time user here. Was just wondering does anyone have contact details or information on the Riverdeep consortium that has plans for the Westfields site on the North Circular road?? Trying to get comment or interview from them for a documentary?

    Cheers.

    RIVERDEEP DEVELOPMENTS LIMITED
    28 MALLOW STREET
    LIMERICK

    Engineer Ned Sheedy, who is fronting the Riverdeep consortium

    Councillor Jim Long, who was approached by the developers for advice

    Well it’s over 14 months ago, it seems nothing has yet materialized. Can you post anything yourself about this planned development?

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    €1.5bn development planned for Limerick site on banks of Shannon (Karl Hanlon) February 2006!

    Plans to transform a wetland area in Limerick city along the banks of the Shannon with a €1.5 billion riverfront development are progressing swiftly, according to the consortium behind the project.
    Promoters of the development confirmed that Limerick City Council had welcomed the project “in principle” and that other statutory bodies would now be consulted to move it to the next stage.
    The project, which is being promoted by the Riverdeep Consortium, would mark the biggest development ever carried out in Limerick.
    If it goes ahead it would also become the biggest infrastructural development on the river Shannon since the construction of the Ardnacrusha power station in the 1920s.
    It is proposed that the massive development would be built on a narrow 50-acre site which stretches nearly a mile along the banks of the Shannon in Limerick city. Up to half of this wetland area, which is subject to flooding, would have to be reclaimed from the river with the construction of a massive dyke.
    Five piers would be built in separate units, linked by a boardwalk, with each unit featuring 12-storey high pods housing apartments, a hotel, offices, a shopping complex and a gymnasium.
    One of the biggest obstacles facing Riverdeep will be the preservation of a designated conservation area adjoining the site. However, it is understood the developers are proposing to set aside a significant budget to protect the area during construction.
    Engineer Ned Sheedy, who is fronting the Riverdeep consortium, said the project was very much in keeping with the city council’s stated aim of promoting Limerick as a riverside city.
    “There are a few hurdles to be negotiated, but this will bring life back into the city,” he said.
    The other members of the consortium have not been publicly identified, but it is understood it also includes local auctioneers and solicitors.
    It has not been revealed how the consortium aims to finance the development which property sources estimate could cost €500 million to build, with a finished value of up to €1.5 billion.
    “At this point in time we can’t disclose details of the financial operation, but financing this operation will not be a difficulty,” Mr Sheedy said.
    Following their meeting with council officials, the consortium must now open negotiations with the Office of Public Works, the Department of the Marine, the Department of the Environment and the EU.
    The council currently owns some of the land in the proposed site, while the title of the mud flats along the riverfront is currently unclear.
    Councillor Jim Long, who was approached by the developers for advice, said he would back the ambitious project as long as the consortium fulfilled all its statutory obligations.
    The Riverdeep consortium said that construction work could start within 18 months.

    © 2006 The Irish Times

    #754209
    Paris Jack
    Participant

    @CologneMike wrote:

    RIVERDEEP DEVELOPMENTS LIMITED
    28 MALLOW STREET
    LIMERICK

    Engineer Ned Sheedy, who is fronting the Riverdeep consortium

    Councillor Jim Long, who was approached by the developers for advice

    Well it’s over 14 months ago, it seems nothing has yet materialized. Can you post anything yourself about this planned development?

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    Well, I have to say guys, reading your posts has reminded me of a project I was kinda involved with about twelve months ago. I was working in Dubai with my uncle on several projects when he showed me these drawings of this HUGE development that he and some of his colleagues and associates were discussing putting together in Limerick City. It was obviously very serious at the time because as I remember they had lots of drawings made up and my uncle’s associates from France, Germany and Holland were very frequent visitors to our home (in Dubai) to discuss the fine details of this project. They appeared to me to be very excited about moving things along and they had talked in great lenghts about various locations in Limerick City that would be suitable for a development of this size. Here you had a french, german and dutch consortium looking for an area big enough to land a 747! I had a good look at these drawings for about twenty to twenty-five minutes and I must say I was extremely impressed. And it takes a lot to impress me folks let me tell ya! Basically, to get to the point, they spoke about those same wetlands you guys mentioned and that general area for their project. I can clearly remember that the drawings showed a 63-storey tower, a 43-storey tower and a 23-storey tower in a perfect triangle. In between these glass towers was a huge plaza with a huge revolving globe of the world in bronze. There were several water fountains and monuments also. I must say that those buildings did look so beautiful. There were also plans drawn up for a fifty thousand-seater concert/events arena as well within walking distance of the towers. I vividly remember that they refered to this project as “a city within a city”. I haven’t heard anything for ages about this from my uncle as we’re both very busy on other projects, but I will definitely have a word with him soon when he returns here to Paris sometime in July.

    Personally, I think if this project ever gets the green light and the ground is literally cleared and prepared for it it would put Limerick City waaaaaay ahead of everything and anything in Ireland! It looks FUCKING AWESOME!!!!! Massive!!!!!! Truly world class!!!!!

    #754210
    justnotbothered
    Participant

    @Paris Jack wrote:

    Well, I have to say guys, reading your posts has reminded me of a project I was kinda involved with about twelve months ago. I was working in Dubai with my uncle on several projects when he showed me these drawings of this HUGE development that he and some of his colleagues and associates were discussing putting together in Limerick City. It was obviously very serious at the time because as I remember they had lots of drawings made up and my uncle’s associates from France, Germany and Holland were very frequent visitors to our home (in Dubai) to discuss the fine details of this project. They appeared to me to be very excited about moving things along and they had talked in great lenghts about various locations in Limerick City that would be suitable for a development of this size. Here you had a french, german and dutch consortium looking for an area big enough to land a 747! I had a good look at these drawings for about twenty to twenty-five minutes and I must say I was extremely impressed. And it takes a lot to impress me folks let me tell ya! Basically, to get to the point, they spoke about those same wetlands you guys mentioned and that general area for their project. I can clearly remember that the drawings showed a 63-storey tower, a 43-storey tower and a 23-storey tower in a perfect triangle. In between these glass towers was a huge plaza with a huge revolving globe of the world in bronze. There were several water fountains and monuments also. I must say that those buildings did look so beautiful. There were also plans drawn up for a fifty thousand-seater concert/events arena as well within walking distance of the towers. I vividly remember that they refered to this project as “a city within a city”. I haven’t heard anything for ages about this from my uncle as we’re both very busy on other projects, but I will definitely have a word with him soon when he returns here to Paris sometime in July.

    Personally, I think if this project ever gets the green light and the ground is literally cleared and prepared for it it would put Limerick City waaaaaay ahead of everything and anything in Ireland! It looks FUCKING AWESOME!!!!! Massive!!!!!! Truly world class!!!!!

    Hmm, invest in Dubai or Limerick, plausable story alright. 63 stories! Couldn’t you have picked a more believable figure?

    #754211
    Tuborg
    Participant

    @Paris Jack wrote:

    Well, I have to say guys, reading your posts has reminded me of a project I was kinda involved with about twelve months ago. I was working in Dubai with my uncle on several projects when he showed me these drawings of this HUGE development that he and some of his colleagues and associates were discussing putting together in Limerick City. It was obviously very serious at the time because as I remember they had lots of drawings made up and my uncle’s associates from France, Germany and Holland were very frequent visitors to our home (in Dubai) to discuss the fine details of this project. They appeared to me to be very excited about moving things along and they had talked in great lenghts about various locations in Limerick City that would be suitable for a development of this size. Here you had a french, german and dutch consortium looking for an area big enough to land a 747! I had a good look at these drawings for about twenty to twenty-five minutes and I must say I was extremely impressed. And it takes a lot to impress me folks let me tell ya! Basically, to get to the point, they spoke about those same wetlands you guys mentioned and that general area for their project. I can clearly remember that the drawings showed a 63-storey tower, a 43-storey tower and a 23-storey tower in a perfect triangle. In between these glass towers was a huge plaza with a huge revolving globe of the world in bronze. There were several water fountains and monuments also. I must say that those buildings did look so beautiful. There were also plans drawn up for a fifty thousand-seater concert/events arena as well within walking distance of the towers. I vividly remember that they refered to this project as “a city within a city”. I haven’t heard anything for ages about this from my uncle as we’re both very busy on other projects, but I will definitely have a word with him soon when he returns here to Paris sometime in July.

    Personally, I think if this project ever gets the green light and the ground is literally cleared and prepared for it it would put Limerick City waaaaaay ahead of everything and anything in Ireland! It looks FUCKING AWESOME!!!!! Massive!!!!!! Truly world class!!!!!

    Hmmmmmm, this wasnt a dream by any chance, was it?

    #754212
    Paris Jack
    Participant

    Hmm, invest in Dubai or Limerick, plausable story alright. 63 stories! Couldn’t you have picked a more believable figure?[/QUOTE]

    I didn’t say it was invest in Limerick or Dubai, I said that this was/is a project that was aimed specifically at Limerick City for what I’d call personal reasons. My uncle’s I mean. He’s already there! He was born in Limerick City but hasn’t lived there for decades, so I guess, from what he has said to me, he’d dearly love to give something back to the city of his birth. As I myself would also like to do someday. The thing is, this has absolutely nothing to do with me. This is only one of many projects my uncle is working on at any given time. I’m just talking about it that’s all. My uncle has been investing in Dubai for many years now, long before the BOOM!!! Long before the forest of skyscrapers and cranes appeared in the desert. I guess he’s just open minded, and a true visionary, totally unlike many people there in Limerick.

    #754213
    Paris Jack
    Participant

    @Tuborg wrote:

    Hmmmmmm, this wasnt a dream by any chance, was it?

    That’s the great irony isn’t it, it is you and many others there in Limerick who are dreaming of such a development. We’re talkin’ about psychology here in my opinion. There is a certain little mind set there in Limerick that is without any doubt holding this city back from reaching it’s true potential. They probably don’t even see it…???? They like living in a matchbox town! Or should I say fucking red brick city? This is a major problem for sure. What the hell is it with the red bricks anyway? Why shouldn’t a development like this come to Limerick? Why have you, and others got a problem with this? Why are you all afraid of real tall buildings anyway? This is a problem all over Ireland, not just Limerick! Just crazy!:confused: Do you think they will fall over on your head or something? It would be no harm if they did come to think of it. It might knock some fucking sense into some people there in Limerick!!! Maybe my uncle has spent a little too long there in the “desert” but at least he has the ambition and the courage to look to the FUTURE!!! This is the future!!! It’s not like they were going to put it in the middle of O’ Connell St. That would be stupid!!! It would (as I’ve already said) need a lot of open ground!! Not in the city, but close enough to be apart of it!! Certain people in Limerick badly need to open their small little minds before Limerick turns into a complete mess!!! I suppose the cheapass gargage they’re currently putting up is just fine, huh? Well that’s just fucking typical!!! You can’t even get a train to the fucking airport from Limerick City for christ sakes, nevermind getting around to putting up glass towers, that are too good for them anyway!!! People with small narrow minds don’t deserve such developments in my opinion!!! I actually feel sorry for Limerick City to be honest….:(

    #754214
    justnotbothered
    Participant

    @Paris Jack wrote:

    That’s the great irony isn’t it, it is you and many others there in Limerick who are dreaming of such a development. We’re talkin’ about psychology here in my opinion. There is a certain little mind set there in Limerick that is without any doubt holding this city back from reaching it’s true potential. They probably don’t even see it…???? They like living in a matchbox town! Or should I say fucking red brick city? This is a major problem for sure. What the hell is it with the red bricks anyway? Why shouldn’t a development like this come to Limerick? Why have you, and others got a problem with this? Why are you all afraid of real tall buildings anyway? This is a problem all over Ireland, not just Limerick! Just crazy!:confused: Do you think they will fall over on your head or something? It would be no harm if they did come to think of it. It might knock some fucking sense into some people there in Limerick!!! Maybe my uncle has spent a little too long there in the “desert” but at least he has the ambition and the courage to look to the FUTURE!!! This is the future!!! It’s not like they were going to put it in the middle of O’ Connell St. That would be stupid!!! It would (as I’ve already said) need a lot of open ground!! Not in the city, but close enough to be apart of it!! Certain people in Limerick badly need to open their small little minds before Limerick turns into a complete mess!!! I suppose the cheapass gargage they’re currently putting up is just fine, huh? Well that’s just fucking typical!!! You can’t even get a train to the fucking airport from Limerick City for christ sakes, nevermind getting around to putting up glass towers, that are too good for them anyway!!! People with small narrow minds don’t deserve such developments in my opinion!!! I actually feel sorry for Limerick City to be honest….:(

    Jack, it’s not that I lack ambition, it’s just I’d rather enjoy parks and riverwalks than highrise buildings. Now, if you want to build off the river and in an place in need of redevelopment, say, the Island field or John Street then I appluad your vision. Why pick there to build, why pick a protected wetlands when there is plenty of places which actually need re-development?

    #754215
    jimg
    Participant

    @Paris Jack wrote:

    That’s the great irony isn’t it, it is you and many others there in Limerick who are dreaming of such a development. We’re talkin’ about psychology here in my opinion. There is a certain little mind set there in Limerick that is without any doubt holding this city back from reaching it’s true potential. They probably don’t even see it…???? They like living in a matchbox town! Or should I say fucking red brick city? This is a major problem for sure. What the hell is it with the red bricks anyway? Why shouldn’t a development like this come to Limerick? Why have you, and others got a problem with this? Why are you all afraid of real tall buildings anyway? This is a problem all over Ireland, not just Limerick! Just crazy!:confused: Do you think they will fall over on your head or something? It would be no harm if they did come to think of it. It might knock some fucking sense into some people there in Limerick!!! Maybe my uncle has spent a little too long there in the “desert” but at least he has the ambition and the courage to look to the FUTURE!!! This is the future!!! It’s not like they were going to put it in the middle of O’ Connell St. That would be stupid!!! It would (as I’ve already said) need a lot of open ground!! Not in the city, but close enough to be apart of it!! Certain people in Limerick badly need to open their small little minds before Limerick turns into a complete mess!!! I suppose the cheapass gargage they’re currently putting up is just fine, huh? Well that’s just fucking typical!!! You can’t even get a train to the fucking airport from Limerick City for christ sakes, nevermind getting around to putting up glass towers, that are too good for them anyway!!! People with small narrow minds don’t deserve such developments in my opinion!!! I actually feel sorry for Limerick City to be honest….:(

    I actually thought you were joking with your first message and thought it was hillarious.

    #754216
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @Paris Jack wrote:

    Well, I have to say guys, reading your posts has reminded me of a project I was kinda involved with about twelve months ago. I was working in Dubai with my uncle on several projects when he showed me these drawings of this HUGE development that he and some of his colleagues and associates were discussing putting together in Limerick City. It was obviously very serious at the time because as I remember they had lots of drawings made up and my uncle’s associates from France, Germany and Holland were very frequent visitors to our home (in Dubai) to discuss the fine details of this project. They appeared to me to be very excited about moving things along and they had talked in great lenghts about various locations in Limerick City that would be suitable for a development of this size. Here you had a french, german and dutch consortium looking for an area big enough to land a 747! I had a good look at these drawings for about twenty to twenty-five minutes and I must say I was extremely impressed. And it takes a lot to impress me folks let me tell ya! Basically, to get to the point, they spoke about those same wetlands you guys mentioned and that general area for their project. I can clearly remember that the drawings showed a 63-storey tower, a 43-storey tower and a 23-storey tower in a perfect triangle. In between these glass towers was a huge plaza with a huge revolving globe of the world in bronze. There were several water fountains and monuments also. I must say that those buildings did look so beautiful. There were also plans drawn up for a fifty thousand-seater concert/events arena as well within walking distance of the towers. I vividly remember that they refered to this project as “a city within a city”. I haven’t heard anything for ages about this from my uncle as we’re both very busy on other projects, but I will definitely have a word with him soon when he returns here to Paris sometime in July.

    Personally, I think if this project ever gets the green light and the ground is literally cleared and prepared for it it would put Limerick City waaaaaay ahead of everything and anything in Ireland! It looks FUCKING AWESOME!!!!! Massive!!!!!! Truly world class!!!!!

    That’s the great irony isn’t it, it is you and many others there in Limerick who are dreaming of such a development. We’re talkin’ about psychology here in my opinion. There is a certain little mind set there in Limerick that is without any doubt holding this city back from reaching it’s true potential. They probably don’t even see it…???? They like living in a matchbox town! Or should I say fucking red brick city? This is a major problem for sure. What the hell is it with the red bricks anyway? Why shouldn’t a development like this come to Limerick? Why have you, and others got a problem with this? Why are you all afraid of real tall buildings anyway? This is a problem all over Ireland, not just Limerick! Just crazy! Do you think they will fall over on your head or something? It would be no harm if they did come to think of it. It might knock some fucking sense into some people there in Limerick!!! Maybe my uncle has spent a little too long there in the “desert” but at least he has the ambition and the courage to look to the FUTURE!!! This is the future!!! It’s not like they were going to put it in the middle of O’ Connell St. That would be stupid!!! It would (as I’ve already said) need a lot of open ground!! Not in the city, but close enough to be apart of it!! Certain people in Limerick badly need to open their small little minds before Limerick turns into a complete mess!!! I suppose the cheapass gargage they’re currently putting up is just fine, huh? Well that’s just fucking typical!!! You can’t even get a train to the fucking airport from Limerick City for christ sakes, nevermind getting around to putting up glass towers, that are too good for them anyway!!! People with small narrow minds don’t deserve such developments in my opinion!!! I actually feel sorry for Limerick City to be honest….

    High Jack!

    Don’t get me going about the 1000 and 1 idiosyncrasies of our native city. Just accept Limerick as it is with it’s warts ‘n’ all! And Jack you will never develop blood pressure before you turn fifty! If you want to talk psychology, then “Bock The Robber” is your man! He is well versed in Jung (for Architectural dreams) and Freud (for Phallic Skyscrapers).

    Jack ]3 developers[/B] operating in Dubai. Well there was a French man, a German and a Dutch man charged in a Dubai court for drinking alcohol. Each were to receive 50 lashes for their crimes. The Judge was a lenient type of guy and said to the French man I will grant you one request before you get flogged. Thanks said the French man and he tied a mattress onto his back and headed off for his whipping. It was the Germans turn and again the judge granted him one request who in turn thanked the judge, tied a mattress onto his back and went for his punishment. When the judge was approached by the Dutch man, he said to him that he had a soft spot for Holland and granted him two requests. The Dutch man with a twinkle in his eye replied, then I would like 200 lashes please and tie the German onto my back beforehand! 😀

    To be honest Jack most people in Limerick have blown minds these days and the city is tough enough to look after itself, you don’t have to pity it.

    But seriously it would be great if you would sketch from memory the plans you saw last year and post them here. There is nothing around to be seen except talk of some Iconic brain storming event took place a few months back.

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    malec
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    Looks like your uncle has been in dubai a tad too long 😉

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