well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?
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- December 4, 2006 at 6:20 pm #753998
Tuborg
ParticipantCruises Hotel in its heyday
From Limerick city museum site
Cruise’s Royal Hotel, Limerick, established/ in 1791, formerly the Royal Mail Coach Hotel; the halting and departing point during the Bianconi stagecoach era. Now extensively modernised, is situated on the left bank of the river Shannon, and is Limerick’s most distinguished address.
Looking back, Its a pity that they didnt keep part of the facade and maybe incorporated it into the new development
December 5, 2006 at 1:08 am #753999Anonymous
Inactive@Tuborg wrote:
Cruises Hotel in its heyday
Looking back, Its a pity that they didnt keep part of the facade and maybe incorporated it into the new developmentTuborg, you had the same sentiments for the other “]shortened the name[/B] from the “Royal George Hotel” to simply “George Hotel” as seen in Billy’s image here. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=52430356&postcount=3 It remains an elephant of a building in a Georgian Street. Queen Victoria would not be amused.:rolleyes:
December 5, 2006 at 3:51 am #754000Tuborg
Participant@CologneMike wrote:
Tuborg, you had the same sentiments for the other “Royal Hotel†further up George’s Street. See Attached image. The Lynch Group have even shortened the name from the “Royal George Hotel†to simply “George Hotel†as seen in Billy’s image here. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=52430356&postcount=3 It remains an elephant of a building in a Georgian Street. Queen Victoria would not be amused.:rolleyes:
No point rambling on about it, whats gone is gone but I just find it sad that so little was done to preserve the city’s built heritage. 40 years ago Limerick had a very attractive city centre, nowadays when you look around O Connell street in particular, it dosent make for very pleasant viewing, Brown Thomas, Penneys, Bank of Ireland to name but a few!
Its interesting how remarkably similar the George and Cruises were, almost identical in fact, only difference was, Cruises never seemed to have a balcony while it seemed to be a trademark of the old George hotel. I think Cruises was a family run hotel that was just put up for sale in the late 80s and developers quickly spotted the potential of it. I dont think anyone can deny that Limerick was in serious need of investment in the late 80s/early 90s, a development like Cruises street would’ve been considered huge at the time and the City authorities would’ve been very foolish to turn it down. I just thought they could have kept some of the hotel as a link with the past considering its historical significance, Daniel O Connell even stayed there!
The George is a monster, God only knows how it was ever allowed to distort the O Connell street skyline, of course the AIB werent long in following suit!
This is another picture from the mid to late 60s, around the time it took on its current scale, note the old Munster & Leinster bank to the left!
December 5, 2006 at 4:36 am #754001vkid
ParticipantAbsolutely agree. O’Connell St from Debenhams up to the Brazen Head needs some serious work. The upper part is still pretty ok but that particular section around Brown Thomas/Bank of Ireland/George/AIB is one of the worst parts of the city at the moment. Its just a mish mash of stuff. How the buildings where the Sony Centre/Leavys shoes/Abrakebabra are being left the way they are is terrible. Any changes to those should involve the restoration of the Georgian brickwork and sash windows. Whats been done to the Texas Steakout and Leavys in the last few years is terrible particularly Leavys. Different finishes on O’Connel Street and Shannon Street. WTF?:mad:
December 8, 2006 at 11:43 pm #754002Anonymous
InactiveKerry Group Lands (formerly Cleeves)
Limerick Docklands Initiative – (Section 8) January 2005 http://www.limerickcity.ie/
Strategic location
The Cleeves complex with its prominent position on the Shannon Skyline is at present underexploited in terms of its strategic location on the banks of the Shannon and proximity to Shannon Bridge. The Master Plan concentrates on bringing together these assets to unlock the potential of the site. The Cleeves site should be integrated back into the fabric of the city thus balancing gateway development on both sides of the Shannon.
River Platforms
The Master Plan proposes a series of river platforms in the form of river walkways in the Westfields, a dedicated route and viewing area under Shannon Bridge and upper courtyards in the former factory complex. The purpose of these chains of gathering and activity spaces is to provide constant reference points back to the Shannon and to the wider city view.Existing Urban Fabric
The existing urban fabric of the factory complex of buildings has a very strong cloister like quality that is retained in the Master Plan design. The unique aspects of the site such as the fine old cut stone warehouse, chimney and tidal reservoirs are all retained and provide four interconnected courtyards each allowing for a separate activity and gathering space.LAND USE
The range of uses proposed is set out as a sustainable mix for the Cleeves site and as part of the newly integrated fabric of Limerick City Centre. A change from the present factory and warehouse use to a mixed use residential and commercial area is proposed in order to promote a more balanced and enlivened area which will provide an enhanced environment for the Shannon River bank.
Residential / Commercial
A mix of residential and commercial development is proposed for the three central interconnected courtyards of the former factory complex which reflects the scale and grandeur of this robust complex. In contrast the three residential courtyards provide sheltered enclaves that are self-contained with semi-public open spaces.Community /Recreational
The community and recreational uses are integrated with the newly reconfigured walkway under Shannon Bridge, and consist of a retail kiosk at the entrance to Westfields and a recommendation for a new Boat Club building that could engage with its riverfront location and benefit from a new public viewing platform for races. A new network of walkways is proposed through Westfields, creating animation along this side of the Shannon.MOVEMENT
The Cleeves site is perfectly positioned to benefit from a number of accessibility proposals in the Master Plan, chief among them being the reconfiguration of the Shannon Bridge roundabout, to the south side of the river, to a signalised junction which will facilitate access by pedestrians and cyclists across the bridge.
River Walk
A strong pedestrian and cyclist promenade is proposed along the River Bank. This thoroughfare connects into Westfields park and the Limerick City river walk across Shannon Bridge.Courtyard Route
A central circulation route is proposed through the three interconnected courtyards of the former factory complex. This route provides an enlivened public thoroughfare that allows for public elements to be positioned into the heart of the Cleeves site and then out onto the River Bank.Local Network
A flexible street network has been proposed as part of the Master Plan for the Green Park Precinct. The core objective of this is to provide a network of connectivity between the central courtyards and the river bank and Westfields.Parking
As part of a coherent car parking strategy for the study area and Limerick City Centre, sufficient parking will be provided on site which will take into account the city centre location.December 10, 2006 at 10:35 pm #754003Anonymous
InactiveLimerick City Centre: Re-Modelling of Streets & Public Open Spaces
Source: Limerick City Council (Development Plan 2004-2010)
http://www.limerickcity.ie/services/planning/DevPlan2004/Appendix_3.pdf (1.5MB)Image-1 Map
City Centre Area
Phase 1: (Brown) Baker Place the pilot project (finished), see image 2.
Phase 2: (Blue) Pedestrianisation of Bedford Row (finished), Thomas Street (started).
Phase 3: (Purple) Start date?
Phase 4: (Red) Start date?
Phase 5: (Green) Start date?
Phase 6: (Pink) Start date?
Limerick QuaysideImage-2 Phase 1 Baker Place.
Baker Place (Tait’s Clock) looks really well. Motor vehicle access has been greatly reduced to the benefit of the pedestrian. I always like to see trees been planted in the city, though I feel they would restrict the view of the clock thus negating it’s function and hiding it’s charm?
I hope the city council will put a big emphasis on Management and Maintenance of the streets when they are finished. I fear that, when they are no sooner laid, the ESB, Gas, water/sewerage or building construction are ripping them up one after the other. They should keep a pallet or two of the original stone materials used for future repairs etc.December 10, 2006 at 10:53 pm #754004justnotbothered
ParticipantGreat posts Mike,
I must admit I like the Cleeves plan an awful lot more than the crazy build on the river plan. Westfields should be a huge resource to Limerick city, as well as being a safety valve to prevent serious flooding from the shannon (imo, one of the reasons Limerick city rarely suffers as serious flooding as the other cities in Ireland). We should preserve and develop it to be a top class nature park, with obvious concessions for street furntiure and cycle ways, we should redevelop the Golden Vale plant as residental (basically, we should initiate the Cleeves plan).
The street redevelopment plans are good to see, especially since we can see the improvements that have already been made. I think William street will be the next (and most needed) one, now that the Thomas street development is approaching completion.
December 11, 2006 at 7:26 pm #754005Tuborg
ParticipantAlthough theres no doubt William Street is in dire need of overhaul, I think O Connell Street is a much more urgent case. After all, it is the city’s main thoroughfare and at the moment it’s a total embarrassment, its dirty and neglected looking, many buildings are in very poor shape and too many crap retailers have really lowered the tone of the street, It says a lot about Limerick City Council that they’ve allowed the street to Degenerate so much! There has been no movement whatsoever on the O Connell Street re-modelling plan that was announced over 5 years ago! Have the exact details of the Makeover even been agreed yet?..
Initially the plan was for complete pedestrianisation between William Street & Roches Street , however this seems to have been scaled back since with pedestrian priority treatment now more likely! This basically means wider footpaths, reduced traffic lanes and properly designated pedestrian crossings! A “major focal point†was planned for the junction of Thomas Street/ Bedford Row!.. but I wonder will this be dropped now aswell? A life size statue of Richard Harris is to be unveiled on Bedford Row early in the new year!..
It was announced recently that phase 1 of the Thomas Street Renewal Project (from O Connell St to Little William Street) will be completed before Christmas with the 2nd phase from Little William Street to Little Catherine Street to be finished by next June!
December 11, 2006 at 9:30 pm #754006justnotbothered
ParticipantDon’t think they can begin O’Connell street until the tunnel and link road are built, like it or not, it’s a national route. I agree O’Connell street does need a major renovation though.
December 12, 2006 at 12:34 am #754007PoxyShamrock
Participant@Tuborg wrote:
Although theres no doubt William Street is in dire need of overhaul, I think O Connell Street is a much more urgent case. After all, it is the city’s main thoroughfare and at the moment it’s a total embarrassment, its dirty and neglected looking, many buildings are in very poor shape and too many crap retailers have really lowered the tone of the street, It says a lot about Limerick City Council that they’ve allowed the street to Degenerate so much! There has been no movement whatsoever on the O Connell Street re-modelling plan that was announced over 5 years ago! Have the exact details of the Makeover even been agreed yet?..
Initially the plan was for complete pedestrianisation between William Street & Roches Street , however this seems to have been scaled back since with pedestrian priority treatment now more likely! This basically means wider footpaths, reduced traffic lanes and properly designated pedestrian crossings! A “major focal point†was planned for the junction of Thomas Street/ Bedford Row!.. but I wonder will this be dropped now aswell? A life size statue of Richard Harris is to be unveiled on Bedford Row early in the new year!..
It was announced recently that phase 1 of the Thomas Street Renewal Project (from O Connell St to Little William Street) will be completed before Christmas with the 2nd phase from Little William Street to Little Catherine Street to be finished by next June!
I would love to see something similar to O’Connell Street in Dublin. It’s really impressive, although what gives O’Connell Street in Dublin a really nice look is the fact that the street is so wide.
December 13, 2006 at 5:47 pm #754008vitruvius
ParticipantI can’t help wondering what kind of people are in charge of planning and preservation in Limerick City Council.
Surely there is a masterplan of what they would like O’Connell st. to look like?
Surely all of the remaining Georgian and Victorian houses at the top end of O’Connell St. and it’s surrounding streets are preserved?
Why then are they allowing for the demolition of entire blocks? Have they learn nothing from the first Savoy site (lifespan approx 17 years).These large blocks are out of scale with everything else around them and they have a very short lifespan.
Contrast these hideous sheds and their “nice” cladding with that new infill building on O’Connell st., close to the Limerick Leader office.
I just walked up from Henry St. to the railway station via Mt Kennet and Hartstonge St. – there is such a wealth of building types up this end of the city that haven’t been fucked up yet – stables, townhouses, mews buildings, the odd industrial warehouses . Admittedly many of them are in a rough state but they are worth being preserved.
Oh, yeah – what’s the story with all the plastic windows in Limerick? If these are listed buildings ( please tell me they are??) how can they get away with putting in uPVC?
Oh, and another gripe – why are all the electricity poles still on the streets? Why are they not underground?
😮December 14, 2006 at 3:27 pm #754009Tuborg
Participant@justnotbothered wrote:
Don’t think they can begin O’Connell street until the tunnel and link road are built, like it or not, it’s a national route. I agree O’Connell street does need a major renovation though.
Ah but you see its all about forward thinking and planning, Phase 2 of the Limerick Southern Ring was initially due for completion in 2006, yes 2006!:eek: .. However anyone with half a brain could’ve foreseen that this was an optimistic timescale to say the least, as it happened the project only barely made a 2006 start, it’ll now be 2009/10 before its finished. Surely the City Council could’ve had some kind of back up plan if anything got delayed, i.e. an inner orbital route, as it is they’ve done absolutely nothing to reduce traffic levels in the city centre. I know their hands are tied somewhat but a proper city centre traffic management plan couldn’t hurt!
Poxy, I’d be wary about copying Dublin’s plan, while the finishes on O Connell street are of an extremely high standard, I don’t know, I cant help but feel that it’s a bit of a missed opportunity!
The street still isn’t the pedestrian environment everyone was led to believe it would be. It’s still pretty much clogged by traffic and has the appearance more of a national primary route (which it is!) than of the most famous street in the country! It’s basically a dual carriageway with nice shiny pavements on either side. Also a massive failing is the lack of proper street furniture, there basically isn’t a single place to sit down along the whole length of the street, for a project of this scale you’d have Imagined that this would have been a pretty important part of the plan, absolutely unbelievable!:eek: Another thing, the street has a real cluttered look, is there really a need for all those signposts?
What id like to see for our own O Connell Street is more of a minimalist approach, but with the required amount of street furniture and possibly some soft landscaping! Ideally a proper effort to clean up and Improve the buildings along the street would be part of the plan, but I suppose that would be asking for too much!..
December 14, 2006 at 4:33 pm #754010vitruvius
Participant[quote=”
What id like to see for our own O Connell Street is more of a minimalist approach, but with the required amount of street furniture and possibly some soft landscaping! Ideally a proper effort to clean up and Improve the buildings along the street would be part of the plan, but I suppose that would be asking for too much!..[/QUOTE”]I agree – I think an Elysian scheme like Dublin’s O’Connell st. might be a bit du trop.
However, Limerick City Council have a long way to come first with regard to planning covenants etc.
In Dublin, DCC just went ahead and installed the scheme in the hope that the owners of the various businesses would come on board and turn down the neon.
In fairness, they have been successful – the street looks really well, and I think some business owners are coming up to the mark.
I don’t know how successful such a scheme, howver modest would be in Limerick – would the centras, spars and supermacs on the street make their presence less visible ?Any idea where the stone for Thomas St. + Bedford Row came from? – Don’t get me wrong, the pedestrianisation is a good thing but the paving is a bit fussy – like something you’d see in a shopping centre.
December 14, 2006 at 8:06 pm #754011justnotbothered
ParticipantPositive move for Nicholas Street
by Marie Hobbins
THE sale of two strategically located sites on Nicholas Street is the kick-start to reactivate a radical development of the historic area.This is the view of Mayor Joe Leddin who, with the other city councillors, will, next Monday, give their approval to the sale by Limerick City Council of a disused site on the street for 293,000 euro to the developer, John Clogan who built the extension to Barrington’s Hospital.
Rooneys Auctioneers is selling the site for the council as well as an adjoining site at 35 Nicholas Street, owned by the businessman.
Cllr John Gilligan has been openly critical of city council for the length of time it has taken to activate development of the former Healy’s shop site which, boarded up for years, was regarded as a disfiguring eyesore in the centre of the King’s Island medieval trail. Noticeable to passers by, the crumbling ruin of the site’s original building was held up by girders and frequently surrounded with litter.
Cllr Gilligan said: ” 15 years ago, Healy’s was relocated down the street with the promise from council that they would be back on site in a new shop within two years but that didn’t happen and, unfortunately, the last of the trade died some years ago and the site became an eyesore and a source of nuisance to the neighbouring residentsâ€.
However, one cause for delay in developing the site was the discovery of a medieval stone wall and fireplace.
Recently, senior planner, Dick Tobin said that expert examination confirmed the finding of a medieval stone wall containing a fireplace that was deemed a national treasures and therefore, could not be removed. At that time, Mr Tobin expressed his belief that the structure could be “imaginatively built around and successfully incorporated into a new buildingâ€.
City council director of finance, John Field, welcomed the sale as a “very positive move for the street as did Mayor Leddin who, like Cllr Gilligan is delighted that a completely refurbished garda station on Mary Street is to reopen.The mayor said he is now hopeful that “the prime site opposite Limerick Civic Trust and adjacent to King John’s Castle, will be suitably developed
December 16, 2006 at 8:15 pm #754012Anonymous
Inactive@justnotbothered wrote:
City revamp on way (Limerick Post)
FEARS that the pedestrianisation of Limerick city centre will cause traffic mayhem has forced City Hall into a new traffic plan.
It has now been suggested that the quaysides should also be pedestrianised which will further aggravate the city’]inner city orbital route [/B]has been mooted by Arup, Consulting Engineers.
According to the consultants, “the objective is to develop a deliverable traffic management solution which will best accommodate traffic drive in the city and simultaneously allow for a pedestrian-friendly city”.@Tuborg wrote:
Initially the plan was for complete pedestrianisation between William Street & Roches Street , however this seems to have been scaled back since with pedestrian priority treatment now more likely! This basically means wider footpaths, reduced traffic lanes and properly designated pedestrian crossings! A “]major focal point[/B]” was planned for the junction of Thomas Street/ Bedford Row!.. but I wonder will this be dropped now aswell?
Granted when the tunnel is completed it will divert national / regional traffic away from the city centre especially away from the Shannon bridge and the Abbey / Thomond bridges. However the city centre will continue to grow commercially as a place to work and shop, as well as place to live or for recreation. Therefore the population density of the city centre during the daytime may double within the next decade. It does not take too much imagination to foresee that the future road (public and private) traffic levels into the city centre will be even higher than now.
I now personally realize that a part pedestrianisation of O’Connell Street is not realistic for Limerick. Simply because traffic moving through the city centre is best served by it’s present one-way system and this can only be achieved by O’Connell / Henry Street and William / Roches Streets The parallel streets such as Catherine Street and the Quays as an alternative one-way route for O’Connell Street are curtailed by a very narrow section on little Catherine Street or by a very low underpass at Sarsfield Bridge.
City Centre (Drive Through Route)
Northbound one-way Henry Street (black highlight) 2 car lanes; 1 bus/taxi lane?
Southbound one-way O’Connell Street (red highlight) 2 car lanes; extra wide footpaths?Eastbound one-way William Street (black highlight) 2 car lanes; 1 bus/taxi lane?
Westbound one-way Roches Street (red highlight) 2 car lanes; 1 bus/taxi lane?City Centre (Inner orbital route)
Henry Street – William Street – Parnell Street – Mallow Street?
Northbound one-way Henry Street (black highlight) 2 car lanes; 1 bus/taxi lane?
Eastbound one-way William Street (black highlight) 2 car lanes; 1 bus/taxi lane?
Southbound two-way Parnell Street (black highlight) 2 car lanes; round-about at Mallow Street Junction?
Westbound two-way Mallow Street (black highlight) 2 car lanes; 1 bus/taxi lane?City Centre (Pedestrianisation)
The pedestrianisation of the Quays between Shannon Bridge and Sarsfield Bridge would be an fine alternative to O’Connell Street. Extra wide footpaths on O’Connell Street would in my opinion do just as well. Bedford Row and lower Thomas Street plus a few side lanes will be fully pedestrianised. Cruises Street is from day one so.City Centre (Other issues)
Public transport: Bus/Taxi lanes, Bus stops, Taxi stands?
Arrangements for delivery of goods?
Cycle ways?
Car parking: Multi-Storey, underground, reduce/eliminate Street parking.
One-way traffic flow system.Routes entering (blue arrows) and exiting (purple arrows) city centre.
Condell Road
Ennis Road
Corbally Road
Dublin Road
Mulgrave Street
Roxborough Road
Hyde Road
Dooradoyle Road
Dock roadDecember 17, 2006 at 7:02 pm #754013Anonymous
Inactive@vitruvius wrote:
I can’t help wondering what kind of people are in charge of planning and preservation in Limerick City Council.
Surely there is a masterplan of what they would like O’Connell st. to look like?
Surely all of the remaining Georgian and Victorian houses at the top end of O’Connell St. and it’s surrounding streets are preserved?
Why then are they allowing for the demolition of entire blocks? Have they learn nothing from the first Savoy site (lifespan approx 17 years).These large blocks are out of scale with everything else around them and they have a very short lifespan.
Contrast these hideous sheds and their “nice” cladding with that new infill building on O’Connell st., close to the Limerick Leader office.
I just walked up from Henry St. to the railway station via Mt Kennet and Hartstonge St. – there is such a wealth of building types up this end of the city that haven’t been fucked up yet – stables, townhouses, mews buildings, the odd industrial warehouses . Admittedly many of them are in a rough state but they are worth being preserved.
Oh, yeah – what’s the story with all the plastic windows in Limerick? If these are listed buildings ( please tell me they are??) how can they get away with putting in uPVC?
Oh, and another gripe – why are all the electricity poles still on the streets? Why are they not underground?
😮Re-Modelling of Streets & Public Open Spaces
I suppose one would have to generalise to answer your questions? You see funding for street maintenance, renewal and road building is sanctioned in Dublin (Dept. of Finance / Environment). It works on the creaking door principle, it will only get oiled when it creaks. Worse when it creaks and it’s owner lives too far away, then it won’t see too much oil at all. I could then go on to generalise and say that those civil servants living in Dublin and working for the departments of finance and environment would be more sensitive to the needs (creaking door) of the Dublin local authority than the “fucked up†state of the streetscape in Limerick some 200 KM away. There after it is the pecking order for Street renewal funds, first Dublin, then Cork, Galway and then ourselves, and so on. So you will have to be patient with us until we get the chance to drive our electricity poles underground like you do in Dublin! My only concern :rolleyes: with these ESB poles that if they remain any longer on our streets they could end up been listed (ESB Shannon Scheme is now 80 years old).
Nice examples 😡 of ESB poles and hanging wires around the Hartstonge Street area are
Image # 1: Catherine Street: Former Trinity Church (Mid-Western Health Board). –
Image # 2: Pery Street: Former Church (Mid-Western Health Board). -Meerwald-
Image # 3: Pery Square: St Michaels Church. –Cheebah-
Image # 4: Pery Square: Georgian Terrace (Tontine Buildings). –Fustar-
Image # 5: Hartstonge Street: Arup offices.
December 18, 2006 at 2:46 am #754014Tuborg
ParticipantI was in the city centre today (Sunday) for the 1st time in about a fortnight and I acually couldnt believe my eyes, Look what Matthew Stephens Jewellers have done to the georgian building at 8 O Connell Street!
I thought something was up when they removed the second floor facade a while back but now they’ve inserted a huge window and plastered over the brickwork! How the fuck was this allowed to happen, I though those days were over!
Matthew Stephens had Planning permission for:
05384
Permission for development at Matthew Stephens Jewellers. The development consists of the following: Removal of existing shopfront and projecting clock over, the construction of a new two storey shopfront with retractable awning at first floor level, new render finish to existing brickwork over new shopfront; new projecting clock and illuminated clock at first floor level; refurbishment of basement, ground and first floor levels which included change of use from associated storage areas to retail jewellers of both the basement and the first floor; realignment of existing fire escape exit at rear on second floor; insertion of two new windows at rear of second floor. The development consists of a total floor area of 326 sq. m. all of which is intended to be used as retail space.
I know Limerick City Council are an incompetent bunch at the best of times but this is unbelievable!
Attachments
Pic 1. Before (The building with the clock between Eason and HMV!)
Pic 2. After (Taken Sunday 17 December 2006)
Apologies if the quality is a bit shit, I took it with my phone!December 18, 2006 at 6:40 pm #754015Anonymous
Inactive@Tuborg wrote:
I was in the city centre today (Sunday) for the 1st time in about a fortnight and I acually couldnt believe my eyes, Look what Matthew Stephens Jewellers have done to the georgian building at 8 O Connell Street!
I thought something was up when they removed the second floor facade a while back but now they’ve inserted a huge window and plastered over the brickwork! How the fuck was this allowed to happen, I though those days were over!
I know Limerick City Council are an incompetent bunch at the best of times but this is unbelievable!
Two storey shopfronts plus render finish to existing brickwork!
It will probably set a new precedent for all the other retailers operating in similar georgian buildings.(Jewellers, Fast-food outlets, Shoe shops etc, etc.) It will be very difficult for the city council to refuse them planning permission on heritage grounds as they all can chant back “everybody else is doing it so why can’t we?â€. At least a new render finish over the brick work should preserve it :rolleyes: against pollution, frost etc, etc. (Ah Tuborg ]not plastered[/B] as well?)
December 18, 2006 at 8:40 pm #754016PoxyShamrock
Participant@Tuborg wrote:
I was in the city centre today (Sunday) for the 1st time in about a fortnight and I acually couldnt believe my eyes, Look what Matthew Stephens Jewellers have done to the georgian building at 8 O Connell Street!
I thought something was up when they removed the second floor facade a while back but now they’ve inserted a huge window and plastered over the brickwork! How the fuck was this allowed to happen, I though those days were over!
I honestly don’t think it’s that bad. In all fairness it could have been worse…they could have knocked the building. If you look to the right of Matthew Stephens you can see that that Eason have done the same with the building. The Original brickwork is still underneath. I don’t remember Cruises Hotel so I can’t be a judge of that disaster…..all I can say is that it was well before my time.
December 20, 2006 at 8:40 am #754017Paris Jack
ParticipantWhat the hell is that supposed to be? Looks like an old seedy brothel I once knew many years ago in Amsterdam! All we need now is for a few fine Limerick ladies to volunteer to dance in that wonderful BIG window every night, right guys? HeHeHe! I’ll supply the RED bulb if you can’t find any! Seriously though, what do you expect from Limerick City Council, huh? They’re just about as incompetent as you can get for christ sake! I mean, just look at what they’ve done to the lower part of dear old O’Connell street… It’s a disgrace from Brown Thomas downwards! The upper part of Limerick’s main avenue is pretty much alright (although it certainly does NEED a good facelift for sure) but from the Thomas street junction downwards it’s a COMPLETE FUCKING MESS!!! Brown Thomas is an ugly useless joke of a building, and in such a prime location as well! Not to mention Penneys, Bank of Ireland and God knows what else! Such a great pity too!!! In my opinion the whole lot should be BULLDOZED!!! INCLUDING that disgraceful Dunnes Stores on Sarsfield Bridge (sorry, can’t remember the name of this street…hummm??? It’s been some years sinse I’ve been home ). Dunnes should be fucking ashamed of themselves for allowing such an UGLY PIECE OF CRAP like that on such a potentially awesome site! Just CRAZY! You drive over Sarsfirld bridge and that’s what greets you into Limerick’s City centre… The mind boggles!!! Will they ever fucking learn??? As for this “Opera Centre”….well, why not knock down the rest of O’connell street while they’re at it, huh? God only knows they’ve done enough damage to Limerick City as it is! It’s the WRONG location! This project should be located on the upper part of Roches street! This would bring MUCH NEEDED life to Parnel street, upper Thomas street and to upper Roches street itself!!!
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