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  • #753898
    jimg
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    The Opera centre looks worse and worse with every detail they release of it, is it just Arthur’s Quay on a larger scale, with the same mistakes magnified?

    Exactly. This is the Arthur’s Quay of the 21st century. It will kill Ellen St and Rutland St. in the same way Arthur’s Quay turned it back on all the streets surrounding it. This development is so 1980’s – I can’t understand how anyone could have enthusiasm for it. Has nothing been learned by the experiences with similar developments in Limerick – not only Arthurs Quay but also the likes of the Dunnes on Sarsfield Street? Ellen Street and Michael Street are finally becoming interesting in recent years. To reduce them to being the fascades for a suburban style shopping centre will be a tragedy for the area around the market. It’s bad enough if something like this was built on brown field but this will involve the destruction of a huge swath of historic buildings. I guarantee that within ten years, if this development goes ahead, people will be looking at this development with the same distaste that they currently regard similar developments from the 70s and 80s.

    #753899
    PoxyShamrock
    Participant

    Still though I love Arthurs Quay! Even though if there is nothing in there. there’s always a great atmosphere in there. If they really planned The Opera Centre it could be a real success, they need alot of Anchor Tenants not just the one and very modern and Spacious malls and shops. The Main Thing they need to do is put entrances to shops from the street and the Malls inside something kind of like The Ilac (now i know the Ilac isnt a great example of a successful SC but when they redesigned it they gave it a nice design with doors from two sides).

    #753900
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @Tuborg wrote:

    Depending on how recent that image is, i would guess that the crane is connected to the development beside barringtons hospital! A new private health facility is being constructed on this site, clearance works started on the site earlier this year and the facility is due to be completed in late 2007, this will double the capacity of the hospital!

    The image of the hotel from O’Dwyer’s bridge is only a week old. See link from MotorMouthMable
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=52115670&postcount=12

    Barrington’s hospital had been extended a couple of years ago so are they now extending along Mary Street ? I think dave123 posted these two artists impressions (thumbnail size) of the new extension last year. Has anybody access to larger images?

    By the way, Paul Clerkin thanks for tidying up the thread!

    #753901
    cheebah
    Participant

    @CologneMike wrote:

    Where exactly is the new Gaelcolaiste Luimnigh?

    You know that photo you have in post #851. Well the Gaelcolaiste is where the Kenrite Construction is printed between Baals Bridge and the Abbey Bridge

    You also asked which hotel group is moving in
    well the hotel sign says this
    http://absolutehotel.com/
    and like the hotel, the website isn’t open yet although the logo is up

    justnotbothered said:
    I see there is going to be increased cctv around the castle, hopefully that will further lock anti social behaviour into areas where it can be at least contained, if not eliminated.

    As a resident of the area be interested to know where you saw this?

    #753902
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @cheebah wrote:

    You know that photo you have in post #851. Well the Gaelcolaiste is where the Kenrite Construction is printed between Baals Bridge and the Abbey Bridge

    Thanks, you confirm what I heard from home at the weekend. Alas there were a cluster of applications for this site and now I have found the right one!

    Kenrite Construction Ltd.

    (05570) and not (05214) from post #851

    Planning permission for change of use from consultants clinic, retail and car parking within part of approved development (planning Ref:P05/214) to 1687.8m2 second level educational use for An Gael Cholaiste Luimnigh 🙂 . The application includes conversion of existing 249.2m2 car parking as approved at ground floor level to school yard area on site which is bounded

    #753903
    justnotbothered
    Participant

    @cheebah wrote:

    You know that photo you have in post #851. Well the Gaelcolaiste is where the Kenrite Construction is printed between Baals Bridge and the Abbey Bridge

    You also asked which hotel group is moving in
    well the hotel sign says this
    http://absolutehotel.com/
    and like the hotel, the website isn’t open yet although the logo is up

    justnotbothered said:
    I see there is going to be increased cctv around the castle, hopefully that will further lock anti social behaviour into areas where it can be at least contained, if not eliminated.

    As a resident of the area be interested to know where you saw this?

    In last week’s post or Limerick weekender, Cllr. Gilligan was speaking about how it would be installed pretty soon.

    Does anyone know what’s going to be done with the vacant lot opposite the castle, beside Kitty O’Shea’s pub?

    #753904
    Tuborg
    Participant

    Barrington’s hospital had been extended a couple of years ago so are they now extending along Mary Street ? I think dave123 posted these two artists impressions (thumbnail size) of the new extension last year.

    Barringtons House was originally built as a stand alone project, it was to house offices, a bar and restaurant(s),the take up was pretty slow and it has been empty for almost three years. However an application was submitted recently for a change of use to a clinic, a bit of a pity really as it would be nice to see another pub or restaurant along georges quay along with the locke and moll darby’s. It’s a very pleasant area (especially in the summer) with the mature trees and riverside setting!

    The new building looks to be a huge disappointment, nowhere near the standard of Barringtons house which intregrates very well with the original hospital, this new structure looks like a return to mediocrity, with the latest in urban wallpaper. Barringtons is a protected Structure, so surely they could have been a bit more sensitive, hopefully it’ll look better in reality, although I couldn’t see it!

    #753905
    cheebah
    Participant

    @justnotbothered wrote:

    Does anyone know what’s going to be done with the vacant lot opposite the castle, beside Kitty O’Shea’s pub?

    Was supposed to be a hotel but objections and disputes led to this not happening, then was mooted to be the location for the decentralised Dept of Foreign Affairs but now I think this location is happening uptown. Have heard nothing recently. It is Katie Dalys pub btw:)

    #753906
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Limerick Greyhound Track

    Bord na gCon (Irish Greyhound Board)

    (06/1854) Clare County Council

    For the construction of a five storey Greyhound Stadium and three storey office building at Meelick, County Clare which shall include; (i) Greyhound racing track with flood lighting and external terracing; (ii) Single-storey kennel block including stores, shop and ancillary veterinary and management offices; (iii) Betting facilites; (iv) 2 No. restaurants and 4 No. licenced bars with ancillary dance floor and function areas; (v) New vehicular entrance including acceleration and deceleration lanes onto the adjoining National Primary Route (N18); (vi) Car and coach parking facilities; (vii) On-site storm water drainage attenuation ponds; (viii) ESB substation; (ix) Landscaping works; and (x) all associated on and off-site development works (a) the raising of existing ground levels within the site, and (b) connection to the water and foul water network in the functional area of Limerick County Council.

    Meelick, Co. Clare

    Clare council opposes stadium (The Irish Times) 05.10.2006

    Gordon Deegan http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/2006/1005/1158591393074.html

    Plans by Bord na gCon to construct a €20 million greyhound stadium on the fringes of Limerick city have run into problems with the local authority.
    Clare County Council has informed the greyhound board that “it is not favourably disposed towards the proposed development as currently proposed for a number of reasons”.
    The primary reason arises from a submission from the National Roads Authority that the stadium should not be in place until the completion of the €349 million Shannon tunnel in 2010. The greyhound board announced its intention when lodging the plans in July that the stadium would be operational by 2008.

    #753907
    Tuborg
    Participant

    To be honest it was always likely that this project would run into problems, given its location. This is an extremely substandard section of the N18 with numerous median breaks, the road has been opperating well over its design capacity for years and unfortunately there are no plans to upgrade it!..

    Obviously once the ring road is complete there should be a significant reduction in traffic levels on the section from cratloe castle into the city, but this only represents a small part of the substandard section which stretches from the coonagh r/about to the upgraded section just south of Shannon Airport. Unbelievably the NRA have decided to install 2 rounabouts near the radisson hotel, near to where the new N7 will interchange with the N18! This sets a fairly disasterous precedent i think!, Intechanges are needed on this road not f****** roundabouts. Add in the fact that Limerick County Council gave the go-ahead for a major shopping complex on this stretch(between the coonagh r/bout and 1 of the proposed r/bouts). Also there will be a significant percentage of traffic who will continue to use the old road to avoid paying the toll, a serious balls up altogether!

    This is a real sorry saga, the delay in constructing a new stadium has been a disgrace, first of all it was supposed to be built in the old racecourse site which would’ve been an ideal location however that fell through and then this site was selected. Surely Bord Na Gcon did some research on the area to identify any possible problems with planning etc, obviously not! Limerick really needs a new greyhound stadium as its fallen way behind other cities and towns who have excellent modern facilities!:(

    #753908
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Limerick Enterprise Development Partnership Ltd.

    (04559)

    The development will consist of the demolition of 7 existing detached and 2 semi-detached dwellings and ancillary structures including garages and boundary walls to the John Craew Park Link Road and Childers Road/Southern Ring Road . The construction of the following: (i) a new entrance (ii) new boundary walls and landscaping (iii) a 4-storey 161 bedroom hotel 🙂 with basement consisting of 73 two bedroom and 2 one bedroom hotel suites and 13 bedrooms, conferencing facilities and meeting rooms, bar and gym on the ground floor with restaurant on the first floor and basement with 123 carparking spaces, swimming pool, changing facilities (iv) 6 retail units one of which is an off-licence at ground floor level and restaurant with take-away at first floor level (v) plant room, bin storage yard, 143 surface carparking spaces (vi) relocation of 14 carparking spaces and drop off area for the creche

    Childers Road/Southern
    Ring Road,
    Roxborough

    I have seen this image on the O’Callaghan Visualisation site http://www.ocv.ie

    I presume this image to be the newly opened “Quality Hotel” alias “South Side Hotel” at the Roxborough side of the city (along side the former Krups factory)?

    Can anyone confirm this?

    #753909
    PoxyShamrock
    Participant

    Yeah, that’s it! looks quite nice in that picture, the building seems to be more of a very pale cream rather than the white, which gives the exterior a very cold feeling to it. Then again the Sunny Weather with Blu Skies does help too 😀

    #753910
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @PoxyShamrock wrote:

    Yeah, that’s it! looks quite nice in that picture, the building seems to be more of a very pale cream rather than the white, which gives the exterior a very cold feeling to it. Then again the Sunny Weather with Blu Skies does help too 😀

    Thanks PoxyShamrock.
    With the completion of the Shannon tunnel in 2010, the Quality Hotel Group have strategically opened their hotel near where the Dublin (N7), the Cork (N20) and the Shannon / Galway (N18) roads meet. This should kick start further developments in the Roxborough area. The Roxborough Shopping Centre has great potential if re-developed. Interesting article in the Post recently.

    A touch of Quality at Roxboro (Limerick Post) 30.09.06

    by Pamela Duncan http://www2.limerickpost.ie/dailynews.elive?id=7306&category=Daily-Sat

    THE latest addition to Limerick’s ever-expanding hotel market came in the shape of the new Quality Hotel in Roxboro when it opened on August 25.

    Dublin born Peter Brennan, speaks to Pamela Duncan about the group’s latest venture.

    Mr Brennan is the Group Operations Director for both the Quality and Comfort Inn hotel chains with responsibility for 14 hotels in Ireland. But he has travelled a long way to don this mantel.

    Mr Brennan started his career here in the region as a wine waiter at Dromoland Castle back in 1979, while on his placement from the Dublin College of Catering.

    Now he is back in the area having overseen the opening of the Quality chain’s first Limerick-based hotel, their eighth in Ireland. He has noted a big change in both Limerick itself and the hotel industry in the area.

    “Overall, yes, there’s a huge upsurgence in Limerick of commercial business. Obviously the city has become more attractive both to investors coming in, but also to people going away for weekends, which makes up the commercial and leisure business to the area”.

    Armed with this knowledge and the experience of the two Clarion hotels, which also come under the Choice brand, the group have moved to open the Quality hotel on the border of Roxboro and Southill.

    And while some eyebrows 😎 have been raised locally as to the hotel’s location, Mr Brennan sees the area as the perfect up-and-coming district from which to launch the Limerick.

    “We have great confidence and faith in this area that it will grow,” Mr Brennan says. “It’s an up-and-coming area, close to the industrial parks, but close enough to the city which you can’t miss from the new ring road.

    “People say it is a difficult area but we’ve opened hotels in difficult places before. We opened a hotel in Dublin and there was nothing between us and Sheriff Street, and now the whole area’s growing around us.

    “We opened a hotel in Cardiff Lane, which was a no-go area for policemen two years ago, but now you wouldn’t buy an apartment there for less than a million euro.

    “We are delighted to be here and feel that we are going to be part of the community going forward”.

    But with a huge number of hotels having opened, and due to open in Limerick in months to come, why open up a 200- bedroom venture?

    “We have a very strong sense of Limerick and we have a strong sense from our experience in the Clarion in Limerick, and from knowing that the business we had for a short while in the Limerick Ryan before it became the Clarion Suites. I think we have a great feeling of confidence for the city,” Mr Brennan answers.

    Because the hotel group are able to provide their customers with three different varieties of hotel with different levels of service and price ranges, Mr Brennan feels the chain has tapped into the market at the right time.

    #753911
    PoxyShamrock
    Participant
    CologneMike wrote:
    Thanks PoxyShamrock.
    With the completion of the Shannon tunnel in 2010, the Quality Hotel Group have strategically opened their hotel near where the Dublin (N7), the Cork (N20) and the Shannon / Galway (N18) roads meet.

    Quote:
    I call it the Shunnel™. Just a copy of the Channel Tunnel (Chunnel), but it could stick! 🙂
    #753912
    PoxyShamrock
    Participant

    @CologneMike wrote:

    Thanks PoxyShamrock.
    With the completion of the Shannon tunnel in 2010, the Quality Hotel Group have strategically opened their hotel near where the Dublin (N7), the Cork (N20) and the Shannon / Galway (N18) roads meet.

    I call it the Shunnelâ„¢. Just a copy of the Channel Tunnel (Chunnel), but it could stick!

    #753913
    mopeds
    Participant

    I read recently that Limerick Boat club is to close. The building is to be knocked to make way for another Apartment Block. Is no old building in Limerick safe anymore.

    This is such a beautiful area what a shame to have another glass block of a building in the way

    #753914
    Limerick Guy
    Participant

    I think the apartment idea is bullsh

    #753915
    billy the squid
    Participant

    @mopeds wrote:

    I read recently that Limerick Boat club is to close. The building is to be knocked to make way for another Apartment Block. Is no old building in Limerick safe anymore.

    This is such a beautiful area what a shame to have another glass block of a building in the way

    From City Council

    Dear Sir,

    The premises you mention is a protected structure in the Limerick City Development Plan. Limerick City Council have received no proposal, formal or otherwise, for the development of the site.

    #753916
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Foreign Affairs Building Site

    https://archiseek.com/content/showpost.php?p=50665&postcount=635

    Planning Applications

    04431
    Demolition of sheds and structures at 23 Henry St.; Demolition of 24 Henry St. and the sheds and extensions to the rear; Demolition of the sheds and structures to the rear of 76-78 O’Connell St.; Demolition of a boundary wall and two toilet and stair returns to the rear of 79-83 O’Connell St. Construction of a pedestrian access and ancillary maintenance works to the archway at Hartstonge St. Excavation and construction of a basement car park on the site, to include the widening of Savins Lane and the provision of a through road from Savins Lane to Hartstonge St. via the Archway, Hartstonge St., a Protected Structure. Construction of a single six storey building fronting 23/24 Henry St. with 44 apartments (2 one bedroom and 42 two bedroom), ground floor and basement retail and ground floor office use. Construction of a single six storey building to the rear of 76-83 O’Connell St., with 74 apartments (6 one bedroom & 66 two bedroom & 2 three bedroom).
    Rear of 76-83 OConnell St
    & 23-24 Henry Street
    Limerick

    04521
    for the demolition of the existing buildings, out-buildings and structures at the above addresses, the construction of a basement car park including a retail storage area and the construction of a sixth storey building over to include four retail shops at ground level including all associated ancillary accommodation, first floor suite with 24 apartments over including all associated site works and site development works. This proposal is located in an architectural conservation area and no. 24, 25 and 26 Henry St. are Protected Structures
    No’s 24, 25, 26, 27 and
    the Carcom building
    Henry Street

    05523
    Permission for alteration to permissions Ref. No. P04/431 and P04/521 (both protected structures) to include alterations and elevations and variation of use from apartments to office use, alterations to carpark layout and ancillary works for site
    23-27 Henry Street
    76-83 O’Connell Street
    Limerick

    I took a few snap-shots of the proposed site for the partly decentralisation of the foreign affairs during the week. The site is now cleared and they are busy driving foundation piles into the ground. This upper part of Henry Street has come on well over the years and is predominately driven by office developments.

    Image #1 shows the work-in-progress and the rear of the former County Council buildings.
    Image #2 shows the rejuvenation that has already taken place across the road from the late 80’s / early 90’s.
    Image #3 is also across the road from the new development and shows the former Presbyterian Church (now office accommodation) being over shadowed by the riverpoint tower.

    Alas lost a bit of quality by down sizing the images!

    #753917
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Shannon Riverbank

    A stroll along the Shannon riverbank between Sarsfield’s Bridge and the Shannon Bridge reveals a lot of building cranes in this part of the town.

    Image #1
    Fordmount Development’s Riverpoint Phase-2 needs only to complete another five floors. The Riverpoint Complex when finished will look well from the Dock / Condell approach roads. However I think Lexington could be right that the view of the glass tower from the Sarsfield bridge could be spoilt by the second phase building?
    See post: https://archiseek.com/content/showpost.php?p=44281&postcount=488

    Image #2
    Another Fordmount Development in progress is the Marriot Hotel Complex on Henry Street just behind the Harvey’s Quay Complex on the left. It appears to be just as imposing as it’s neighbour on the other side of the street.
    See post: https://archiseek.com/content/showpost.php?p=52774&postcount=678

    Image #3
    Lalco Development’s Hilton Hotel and Apartment Complex is well on it’s way. Though the building design looks well however the colour seems to be rather dull. Will have to wait to see the finished product. JustNotBothered was not very inspired.
    See post: https://archiseek.com/content/showpost.php?p=56240&postcount=822

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