well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

The start of a new Limerick Skyline -Clancy Strand-

14/06/2006

Permission is sought for the demolition of Strandville, Roseville and Curragour House, ancillary sheds and structures, at Clancy Strand, Limerick and permission to construct 49 no. apartments (14-3 bed, 34-2 bed and 1-1 bed) in a five storey building with 1.5 floors of basement carparking, site entrance, drainage, landscaping and ancillary works

Eileen McNamara Architects

These apartments would command a spectacular view of the river Shannon with the Kings island in the background. This location is second to none in Limerick and if the developer gets the design right it will probably kick start more developments towards the treaty stone.

I trust the city hall has a coherent skyline plan for Clancy Strand.

The first image is of Clancy Strand from King John’s Castle. The planning site is for the last 3 houses on the left?

The second image is of King John’s Castle taken from the from the Clancy Strand side of the river. Nice views for the apartments.

The third image is a zoomed view of Shannon rowing club with a cluttered high rise background. Taken from John’s Castle. The green office block has since been demolished and will be replaced by an even higher building.

Images found under following links:

http://www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/pix/lim/index.html

http://www.obrienclan.com/boru/limerick-city.htm

Opposition to Limerick Docks proposals

20 June 2006 16:15
Opposition to proposals to sell off or close Limerick Docks has intensified, following a legal challenge by one of the biggest exporters based at the docks.

The Shannon Foynes Port Company is currently examining tenders from a number of commercial interests who have ambitions to develop the 44-acre site.

The company wants to see what interest is in the market and will make a decision about its future by the end of September.

But there is considerable opposition among a number of commercial and community interests to any proposals to sell the docks.

Hegarty Metals, which has been exporting scrap metal from Limerick Docks for over 45 years, has lodged papers in the High Court to fight any plans to sell.

The port company says it will repel any move by what it describes as ‘vested interests’ to inhibit its right to determine the future of the docks.

Limerick City Council has also re-iterated its complete opposition to any proposals to sell or close the docks.

Any thoughts?

@PoxyShamrok wrote:

Just wondering did anyone ever hear anymore on the proposed development on the marshs along the Condell road?

You mean in the protected wetlands? No, not even a sniff of an actual concrete plan either. Wouldn’t trust these guys as far as they should be thrown.

@Thomond Park wrote:

Opposition to Limerick Docks proposals

Any thoughts?

Well why the expensive Tunnel? :confused:

http://www.midwestroads.ie/LSSR2/Lssr_Index.htm

Shannon Estuary Shipping Facilities

Kerry: Ballylongford planned gas terminal (Gas jetty) Deep water facility
Kerry: Tarbert E.S.B. Station (Oil jetty) 80,000 tons DWT
Clare: Moneypoint E.S.B. Station (Coal jetty) 220,000 tons DWT
Clare: Shannon airport (Oil Jetty) 6,500 tons DWT
Limerick: Foynes (Port) Deep water facility
Limerick: Aughinish Alumina (Bauxite Jetty) 80,000 tons DWT
Limerick: Limerick city (Docks) 5,500 tons DWT

Limerick docks has only one advantage in that is situated 60 miles inland thus with small coastal shipping it can reduce the amount of bulk goods on the roads. Where as Foynes port has more to offer with Rail link to national railway network and 230 acres of serviced land. Enough room to grow.

In my opinion the facts above speak for Foynes Port.

http://www.sfpc.ie Shannon Foynes Port Company

http://www.shannon-dev.ie/NewsReleases/NewsReleases2006/Title,3705,en.html Shannon Development

Shannon Development welcomes Shannon Foynes Port Company initiative 🙂

Shannon Development welcomes the Shannon Foynes Port Company initiative of seeking expressions of interest from developers in the redevelopment of Limerick Docklands. The Limerick Docklands area has the potential to be one of the primary economic drivers for Limerick and the region, and Shannon Development has worked closely with Shannon Foynes Port Company and Limerick City Council to explore development opportunities for the Docklands area that would drive the economic regeneration of this important urban area in Limerick City.
Shannon Development would urge all stakeholders to engage in consultation to ensure the maximum economic potential of Limerick Docklands is realised for Limerick City and the Region.

http://www.murrayolaoire.com/urban/projects/limerick_docks/index.html

RE-INVENTING LIMERICK DOCKLANDS COMPETITION 🙂

Client: Limerick City Council / Shannon Development / Shannon Foynes Port Company

In association with a team of economists, engineers, transport specialists and planners, Murray O’Laoire Architects prepared an approach to a strategic development plan for the Docklands area of Limerick City.
Limerick Docklands represents a key expansion area for Limerick City which necessitates a forward-thinking and co-ordinated development proposal to ensure a phased and regulated expansion approach. The Team proposed a knowledgeable yet innovative approach to advancing a strategic solution for the development of the Docklands.

It detailed such issues as strategic site objectives, development guideline principles, linkage opportunities, public open space networks, infrastructure requirements, all of which would support and contribute to the proposed development. The approach adopted for the realisation of a strategic development plan promoted an overall Master Plan as an intrinsic element of the market analysis, reflecting and ordering the demand trends emerging from this analysis, promoting a well designed and economically viable extension to Limerick City.

Interesting this project, has been around for sometime. (Maybe even before the decision for the tunnel was made?????)

Meanwhile dark clouds are gathering further down river.
Construction on the fourth river crossing is to begin this year. The method of crossing is per Tunnel to be built under a PPP scheme. The tunnel option was solely to accommodate the city docks because of tidal constraints. I may assume that the Shannon Foynes Port Company lobbied for the tunnel option? If so why a tunnel, when moving to Foynes Port must have been a long foregone conclusion? Since it is more expensive to build a tunnel than a bridge, logically enough the toll-charges to be paid will be proportionately more. The tab will be paid mainly by commuters going to work and from public taxes. At least our wild-geese can fly into the fog banks without hitting any concrete obstacles during take-off. Even the odd navy visit or thoughts of cruise liners berthing along side the clarion hotel will justify the cost! :rolleyes:

Stop the lights lets build a bridge instead? That would be now the worst scenario for Limerick city. It would put so many projects on hold. The pedestrianisation of the city streets can only take place when the NRA has no more Primary roads running through the city centre. The Dublin (N7), Waterford (N24), Cork (N20), Shannon Estuary (N69) and Shannon Airport / Galway (N18). Forty thousand vehicles! 😡

I believe strongly in the concept of the Atlantic corridor connecting Derry, Sligo, Galway, Limerick, Cork and Waterford to offset an imbalance of economic dominance between Belfast and Dublin. This fourth river crossing is part of this jigsaw.

See also

http://thelimerick.blogspot.com/2006/06/city-council-opposes-sale-of-limerick.html

Images #1 and #2 RE-INVENTING LIMERICK DOCKLANDS COMPETITION
Image #3 Ted Russell Docks
Image #4 Fourth River Crossing just below the docks.

I know everyone here loves the Limerick Post. But Look at this article. It a massive planned development. Dont know about losing the park though

New city centre

by Marie Hobbins
A DEVELOPER is poised to deliver a radical and unparalleled transformation to a Limerick city centre area of eight acres.

Property developer, Michael Tiernan’s vision for a new and extended city centre involves the demolition of the block occupied by Roches Stores, Penneys and Burger King, the demolition of the block occupied by Arthur’s Quay Shopping Centre, demolition of the unoccupied premises on Liddy Street, the demolition of Dunnes Stores on Sarsfield Street and to the rear on Howley’s Quay and the possible demolition of the tourist office.

Central to the city centre regeneration plan would be the acquisition of the park at Arthur’s Quay.

Outlining his overall plan to the Limerick Post Mr Tiernan, who has submitted his company’s draft to Limerick City Council is emphatic that the development would satisfy the demand for the upmarket retail provision expected of a city centre.

The development would run a road underground from Lower Henry Street to Rutland Street to facilitate the pedestrianisation of Upper Patrick Street and Lower O’Connell Street, would include a major civic square as well as a number of civic spaces, a quayside boardwalk, new theatre/concert hall and the relocation of the city library from the Granary.

The redesigned area would also rehouse the newly rebuilt Roches Stores, Penneys etc and provide a link between the riverscape of Howley’s/Harvey’s quays and Arthur’s Quay and form a natural connection to the city’s medieval quarter.

“It would be hoped that our development would be the catalyst for an imaginative regeneration of Nicholas Street,” observed the developer.

With Roches Stores, Penneys, Dunnes, Tesco and Burger King fully in support of the redevelopment project, which Mr Tiernan stresses will not lead to job losses in the redevelopment period (but will create huge job increases after completion), a city centre regeneration project of this magnitude will, he says “present an historically unique opportunity to transform the centre of Limerick city and will enable it to become once again the civic and retail heartland of the entire region, particularly given the enthusiasm of the stakeholders”.

Michael Tiernan, who built the Arthur’s Quay Shopping Centre in 1989 points out that the cycle for redevelopment has shrunk to today’s norm of 20 to 30 years.

“This is a one in a 200-year opportunity to completely transform, enhance and extend the city centre for the people of Limerick and the challenge is to empower the vision we have to make this possible. Our aim is to focus on what the people want and our ambition is to go to planning next year and with a phased development process, achieve completion by 2010.”

Tiernan Properties have liaised closely with the developers of the Opera Centre, construction of which is due to commence in the Autumn.

While city manager, Tom Mackey is remaining tight-lipped on the project and refused to be drawn on the implications involved in a rezoning of Arthur’s Quay Park, which is leased to the Council by the Department of the Marine, it is generally accepted that some councillors may not be willing to surrender the park for development.

“There’s a fear that if we put it forward for rezoning for commercial development the port company would look for an arm and a leg in financial terms,” contends Cllr Michael Hourigan who is one hundred per cent in favour of the Tiernan regeneration project.

“As it is the park is under-utilised even though we are making much about being a riverside city. We should consider the bigger picture here and in tandem with the Opera Centre a complete redesign as envisioned by Michael Tiernan and the stakeholders would continue the city’s redevelopment process and would tie in with the Council’s city development plan,”he said.

The Council’s senior planner, Dick Tobin told the Limerick Post that the project was presented to Limerick City Council in 2004 but that no firm decision on its future was arrived at. Cllr John Gilligan, however is emphatic that the councillors have not yet been acquainted with details of the project.

Mr Tobin said that as the area plan for the city centre is earmarked for detailed discussion later this year, in that context the Tiernan regeneration project will be fully examined.

@Mopeds wrote:

I know everyone here loves the Limerick Post. But Look at this article. It a massive planned development. Dont know about losing the park though

New city centre

by Marie Hobbins
A DEVELOPER is poised to deliver a radical and unparalleled transformation to a Limerick city centre area of eight acres.

@Tuborg wrote:

Seen this in the paper today, probably the most radical city centre proposal since edmund pery and his georgian newtown!

Can anyone really see this going ahead?,

Developer Michael Tiernan&#8217]

It would include a major civic square as well as a number of civic spaces Question: How radical?

The redesigned area would also rehouse the newly rebuilt Roches Stores, Penneys etc Question: Same locations?

Any artist’s impression Michael?

Image below shows red marked zones for demolition.

(1) Dunnes Stores
(2) Roches Stores
(3) Penneys
(4) Arthur’s Quay Shopping Centre (Tescos)
(5) Arthur’s Quay Park & Tourist office

@Limerick Guy wrote:

the limerick leader said that this could be completed by 2010….i think this is a bit soon! more like 2015!

The Limerick Leader

Limerick going underground in biggest ever scheme – By BARRY DUGGAN

THE city centre could be completely transformed in the space of four years with a massive €200m development which will include Limerick’s first underground street.
Property developer Michael Tiernan said the plans for Limerick would make a “much more exciting city centre”.
But Mr Tiernan denied reports that Roches Stores and Dunnes Stores have already been purchased as part of the plan which would see one side of Sarsfield Street being completely demolished.
“What is in agreement at the moment are future plans for the centre of Limerick. There is an understanding between the key stakeholders and all parties concerned to try and reach a satisfactory conclusion that will regenerate and make a much more exciting city centre,” said Mr Tiernan.
It is understood that the multi-million euro retail plan proposes to link Arthur’s Quay Shopping Centre, the block occupied by Roches Stores and Penneys, Dunnes Stores on Sarsfield Street and Arthur’s Quay park.
Pedestrianisation would be vastly improved to make the city centre more accessible.
Were the plans to go-ahead, traffic coming from Henry Street would go underground from Liddy Street, continue under the site of Arthur’s Quay park and emerge at Rutland Street.
“Traffic has to be accommodated and this is one of the options that may be availed. It would lead to improved pedestrianisation for everyone,” said Mr Tiernan.
The cost of the project is expected to exceed €200m and developers hope to have it completed by 2010.
“Hopefully we will make significant progress over the next six months. This is a very exciting project and there is a lot of goodwill towards what we are proposing. It will be compatible with the planned Opera Centre and we are working alongside them not in competition with them,” said Mr Tiernan.
Mr Tiernan of Tiernan Properties built Arthur’s Quay shopping centre in 1989.
Kieran Lehane, director of services at planning, said the local authority are “open and amenable” to discussing the mammoth project.
“We would be in favour of a large scale retail redevelopment but it is very early days yet. This is a major proposal and it is bigger than the Opera Centre,” said Mr Lehane.
No planning application has been received by Limerick City Council yet.
23 June 2006

Limerick Leader Link http://www.limericktoday.com/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=3419&ArticleID=1585651

FOREIGN AFFAIRS FOR CITY BLOCK – By MAIREAD Ni CHAOIMH

IT LOOKS certain that Henry Street is to be the chosen location for the offices of over 120 employees of the Department of Foreign Affairs, who are due to relocate to Limerick next year.
It is understood that a multi-million euro deal between the developers and the Office of Public Works is imminent.
The OPW has been shopping around for suitable office accommodation in Limerick since the decentralisation plan was announced, and had considered a number of locations, including a site on Kings Island.
It now appears that they have settled on a new office development, which is currently being built on a large site opposite Mill House on Henry Street, and at the back of the County Council offices on O’Connell Street.
George Moore, a spokesman for the OPW, said the agency would not be publicly announcing which building they have secured until the deal had been finalised.
“Yes, we have identified a property and we are at an advanced stage of signing a lease for a building under construction,” said Mr Moore.
“We are going through the legalities at the moment, but are anxious to get it done as quickly as possible,” he added.
The decentralisation plan will see 124 employees of Irish Aid, the agency in charge of Ireland’s overseas aid development programme, relocate to Limerick from their office at Redmond Hill in Dublin 2.
Kieran Lehane, director of services in the City Council’s planning department, said the relocation of the agency is “a very good plus for the city to have a prestigious government department coming to Limerick”.
Developer Len Dineen is the man behind the new office and apartment complex at Henry Street.
Plans to decentralise Irish Aid, which was previously known as Development Cooperation Ireland, have been beset with controversy. There were widely publicised reports that not enough top civil servants were interested in the move. And Irish aid agencies are vehemently against the move, saying it will lead to a loss of staff expertise, and consequently would do harm to the country’s overseas aid programme.
23 June 2006

Limerick Leader Link http://www.limericktoday.com/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=3419&ArticleID=1585653