well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

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  • #753658
    Tuborg
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    Just a few pics regarding the developments that are being discussed in this thread, The first picture shows Roches stores current frontage onto Sarsfield st, i think this section of the building used to house a supermarket until a few years ago and the 2nd is a photo is of the Harveys quay development that is directly across the street from the Savoy site that is currently being redeveloped! Looking at an overhead image i found it really shows the extent of Roches Stores land holdings, it really is a huge site that is hopelessly underused, you can clearly see the area to the rear of the store is mainly used for storage and deliveries with the vacant buildings fronting onto liddy street, there really is huge scope for a complete redevelopment of the store, i had posted the picture but unfortunately i made a bit of a balls of it, ill try and rectify the situation and post it at a later date!

    #753659
    billy the squid
    Participant

    Does anyone know if there is a render floating around of the Punches Hotel?

    #753660
    vkid
    Participant

    Limerick waterfront sites to fetch €100m
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    LANDS totalling 7.2 acres fronting the Shannon at Limerick stand to fetch €100m.

    Shannon Foynes Port Company is seeking tenders from developers for the purchase of two prime waterfront properties. The largest of the sites is a 5.3 acre development property with significant frontage to the River Shannon and located on the west side of Limerick Docklands.

    The port company is also selling a 1.9 acre site beside the Clarion Hotel. Both sites are being sold by Jones Lang LaSalle and could set a new benchmark for Limerick city. The sale will generate interest from developers seeking to cash in on the transformation of the Shannonside Docklands – driving land values up towards levels heretofore seen only in the capital.

    Earmarked

    The Docklands has already been earmarked as one of Limerick’s most important developments areas over the next decade – extending Limerick city centre as a new residential business and leisure quarter.

    The sales form part of an overall (and very valuable) 40 acre holding between the Shannon and the Dock Road. Redevelopment of this area has already commenced with the Clarion Hotel a landmark building to the north east of the port company’s lands.

    The land now for sale is zoned “general purpose” under the Limerick City Development Plan 2004. Preferred land uses include “hotel/motel, residential, local shop and neighbourhood shop. offices, community facility, cultural use, schools, science and technology based industries,” among others.

    Both sites are for sale by tender. The larger site has approximately 190m of frontage to the River Shannon. Access is from Atlas Avenue.

    The 1.9 acre site is roughly rectangular and presently includes a portion of the old disused Graving Dock. Both sites are freehold and Des Lennon at JLLS has the complete details.

    The Limerick City Development Plan 2004 identifies the Docklands area as a significant remaining major landbank for both “greenfield” and urban renewal redevelopment potential for the city.

    It identifies the Docklands precinct as a key element for the implementation of the National Spatial Strategy and the development of this area is to be viewed as an adjunct to the city centre, whilst providing an opportunity for the provision of a range of mixed land uses which will add value and employment opportunities for the city.

    #753661
    justnotbothered
    Participant

    Has anyone seen the design for the proposed apartments by Thomond Bridge? Awful, absolutely awful. I think it’s a great idea to build the apartments and bring some life ot the area but these are incredibly ugly. Such potential on that site, it would be a shame to waste it.

    #753662
    Limerick Guy
    Participant

    where have you seen the pics for these apartments?

    #753663
    dave123
    Participant

    @justnotbothered wrote:

    Has anyone seen the design for the proposed apartments by Thomond Bridge? Awful, absolutely awful. I think it’s a great idea to build the apartments and bring some life ot the area but these are incredibly ugly. Such potential on that site, it would be a shame to waste it.

    Are you talking about the Domed roofs with grey cladding and bricks? just after thomond bridge heading out of the city. If I’m right I don’t think they look to bad.

    The port land sell off will be very promising indeed, 100 of millions of Euro in value, let’s see if the plans turn out as good as it bargained for, Of course it would be exhilerating to have another tower soaring beside the Clarion and this would make Limerick a towering riverside metroplis with land values one of the highest in the country, who said property will be cheap in Limerick over the coming years..

    #753664
    Limerick Guy
    Participant

    yeah it would be great to have another high rise!

    #753665
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Rave reviews to my posting about the on-going Roches-Stores project or just a little storm in a tea-cup!

    Below an article from today’s Limerick Post

    Roches is just getting a paint job

    Mystery surrounds websites’ allegations that the facade is being reclad.

    DESPITE two websites posting pictures of how Roches Stores will look after its “recladding”, the general manager of the Limerick branch has refuted claims that renovation work is taking place on the facade of the landmark building.

    Two websites, archiseek.com and the Limerick Blogger posted details of the “development” at the Roches Stores building on the corner of O’Connell Street and Sarsfield Street. Both websites also carried photos of the planned development, although by Tuesday afternoon, the Blogger photo had disappeared off the page.

    When the Limerick Post contacted Roches Stores regarding the alleged developments, they quickly refuted the claims. Although scaffolding was erected three weeks ago, general manager Michael Buckley insists that the department store is “merely getting a paint job”.

    Mr Buckley told the Limerick Post; “No recladding or other outward renovation is taking place. As far as I’m concerned we are only painting our building.”

    Limerick Civic Trust does not have any concerns about the mystery however as the building is not a heritage building.

    “The original building on that site was burnt to the ground in the 1940s or 1950s,” recalled Denis Leonard. “So it’s a reasonably new building and would not be protected as a result.”

    There is no planning application lodged with Limerick City Council for alterations to the facade, and planning permission is not required for painting works.

    The posting first appeared on the archiseek website, which is an online forum in which architects and members of the general public can share their views on architectural debates.

    The Roches Stores post, along with three photos, was part of the website’s forum.

    The posting referring to the “recladding” on the Limerick Blogger website was removed the day after the Limerick Post contacted Roches Stores about the development.

    A spokesperson for Archiseek said; “Archiseek is a discussion forum, the views posted are of the poster only and not the views of the publisher of the site.”

    :confused:

    #753666
    billy the squid
    Participant

    Yeah mate what you got to say for yourself, the feckers at the post accused me of SCRUBBING the picture from limerickblogger.org

    I’m going to have to have a little word with the author of that story!.

    #753667
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Justnotbothered and Limerick Guy looked for this picture, it was posted by squid on the http://thelimerick.blogspot.com/ of the development planned for the Thomondgate side of the Shannon. Also posted is the finished Rices Corner apartments and a view from King John’s Castle over looking both sites at the right hand side of the bridge. Anybody with other pictures of this development?

    #753668
    billy the squid
    Participant

    @Limerick Guy wrote:

    where have you seen the pics for these apartments?

    http://thelimerick.blogspot.com/2006/04/mike-brady-must-be-rebuilding-our-city.html

    #753669
    lexington
    Participant

    @billy the squid wrote:

    Yeah mate what you got to say for yourself, the feckers at the post accused me of SCRUBBING the picture from limerickblogger.org

    I’m going to have to have a little word with the author of that story!.

    Welcome to the world of the Irish media. The Cork threads know this all too well. However there are and have always been exceptions.

    #753670
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @billy the squid wrote:

    Yeah mate what you got to say for yourself, the feckers at the post accused me of SCRUBBING the picture from limerickblogger.org

    I’m going to have to have a little word with the author of that story!.

    Billy you are absolutely right to tackle the Limerick Post author. The author’s sloppy and lazy journalisim left a bitter taste in my mouth after reading the article. Allegations! What Allegations?
    Firstly the pictures are not fakes but are freely available to see at the http://www.nma.ie under on-going projects. [Newenham Mulligan & Associates architects for Roches Stores!]
    Secondly the irritation by the Limerick City Council I mentioned was written about by the same paper see below.
    Thirdly I quote “The posting referring to the “recladding” on the Limerick Blogger website was removed the day after the Limerick Post contacted Roches Stores about the development.” Rubbish it is still there to be seen under the April archives!
    Anyway here is what the Limerick Post had written in the past.

    Pressure on Roches Stores over Liddy Street

    By Marie Hobbins
    A CITY councillor wanted to know why a section of one of the busiest city centre areas has turned into a “ghost street” when he raised the issue at a recent meeting of City Council’s Economic Policy Development and Future Planning Strategic Policy Committee.

    Cllr Kevin Kiely was referring to a number of closed shops in an area between the rear of Roches Stores and Martin’s pub on Liddy Street

    Reminding the committee that Roches Stores purchased the shops some years ago, Cllr Kiely said it was unacceptable that the properties have been lying idle since and that consequently the street has become run down and shabby.

    Limerick City Council’s senior planner, Dick Tobin said that they have had discussions with both Roches Stores and Dunnes Stores (located on neighbouring Sarsfield Street) regarding development of the block but that so far no planning applications for development have been submitted.

    “We may incorporate this area into a new city centre development plan for the city and will then put pressure on the owners to commence development,” Mr Tobin told Cllr Kiely.

    Cllr Kiely said that Roches Stores had originally purchased some land in the vicinity from the then Limerick Corporation “at below market value” and that “pressure should now be put on them to commence development”.
    The Limerick Post telephoned Roches Stores headquarters in Dublin for their comment on the issue but at by time of going to press they had not replied to a message left on their marketing manager’s voice mail.

    #753671
    billy the squid
    Participant

    good stuff, can I copy/paste that onto the site?

    #753672
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @billy the squid wrote:

    good stuff, can I copy/paste that onto the site?

    Fireaway Billy!

    #753673
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    I’ve actually complained to the journalist as she asked for proof of your post and I merely pointed out that it was a post on a discussion forum – my reply was not intended for publication.

    #753674
    billy the squid
    Participant

    I rang the post when I saw the article, but the writer in question had knocked off for the day. (great job you can knock off at 4pm).

    were you talking to her Paul? what part of the article did she publish that was your reply?

    ah yes i see what you said was printed now.

    however as CologneMike has pointed out, the images and story were not without basis, the information came from reputable sources, i.e. the architect involved in the development.

    at least she afforded you the courtessy of a call. i got jack shit from her. she just berated my site without even an email.

    There are numerous ways in which she could have contacted me. through email, a comment on the story or even picking up the phone and leaving a message on the CommentCasting line.

    #753675
    J.P
    Participant

    billy and mike ,i think you are making much ado about nothing

    #753676
    justnotbothered
    Participant

    @CologneMike wrote:

    Justnotbothered and Limerick Guy looked for this picture, it was posted by squid on the http://thelimerick.blogspot.com/ of the development planned for the Thomondgate side of the Shannon. Also posted is the finished Rices Corner apartments and a view from King John’s Castle over looking both sites at the right hand side of the bridge. Anybody with other pictures of this development?

    Yeah that’s the one I meant, I’ve nothing aqainst this development, but surely there’s a better design than that? That pub is situated on the site where the Wild Geese gathered before marching away from Limerick, it should have a landmark development, not those identikit flats.

    #753677
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I have discovered the limerickbiz.com web site with some interesting video-clips (Macroflash) plus articles that would complement some of the recent postings on this thread. For ex-pats like myself or those who don’t reside on the Shannonside it’s a great visual aid and might spare Lexington a few bob coming up from Cork who makes the effort to evaluate the developments going on there.

    The Strand Apartments / Hilton Hotel Building progress to date: (see Tuborg’s posting /page 25 / #601)

    Article: 150 new jobs for City at new Limerick Hilton hotel
    http://www.limerickbiz.com/limerick_strand_hotel.html

    New city site purchased for Foreign Affairs staff: (see Justnotbothered posting / page 25 / #610)

    Article: Development Co-operation Ireland relocate to Henry Street Limerick
    http://www.limerickbiz.com/dci_relocate.html

    Landmark site Thomond Bridge / Thomondgate development:
    (see postings / page 25 / #617 ; #619 ; #623 ; #624)
    The materials, design, height, scale of building in the vicinity of the Thomond Bridge is a big challenge for the developer to pull off. The Kings Island is a heritage sensitive district.

    Article: Limerick Masons open doors to public
    http://www.limerickbiz.com/limerick_freemasons.html

    New building that replaced two Georgian houses on Cecil Street

    Article: Limerick Domininians Bible Centre is revealed
    http://www.limerickbiz.com/doninicians_bible_centre.html

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