well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?
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I guess people think that I am obsessed with skyscrapers. Just to let you know I like Riverpoint too. It looks really good. A 15ish storey building that looks good seems fine to me. Having said that, I do not like what is attached to it. It would look way better standing alone. LOL.
river point is the job…great stuff. i went to ul in ’93 and remember the city being quite depressed and depressing so its great to see this town quietly getting on with the various projects like this and the redevelopment of the savoy site.
lots of potential in limerick for serious buildings and with the new bypass, the tunnel under the shannon and the proposed/hopefully soon to happen limerick to shannon airport rail link, i think limerick is only going to go from strength to strength!!!
that stretch from the riverpoint tower to the clarion is probably going to see a lot more stuff pushing up the height issue and i hope the city keeps going well!!!@dave123 wrote:
Not a great pic , but got it from http://www.rooneyauctioneers.com
the development is on Bedford row
consist if 4 storey over bacement , ant comments?more pics later 🙂
The development on Bedford Row shown is where the “Central Studio” cinema is/was. The cinema has long since closed its doors as a permanent theatre but it was being used by the Belltable for their film club.
The familiar facade of the “Central” is a 20th Century addition to a much older Wesleyan Methodist Chapel. If you go down there now and look at the side of the building you can see that the “Central” facade extends only about 15 feet in from the street. The actual theatre part of the cinema was, in fact, the modified interior of the chapel. You can see the bricked up windows of the chapel in the alley beside the “Central” and, of course, you can see the ‘gothic’ detail on the roof area if you stand further up Bedford Row and look at it from an angle. You can also get a good look at the roof from the top floor of the new Dunne’s Stores.
As far as I understand it the plan is to demolish the “Central Studio” facade to reveal (once again) the facade of the original chapel. Could work out quite nicely if done well.
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thanks for the pics Hailtothechimp! a great asset to the thread!
The view from the river looking towards the Clarion and riverpoint in view is awesome!
I have a query, on the cranes behind the riverpoint , near a city centre location, just wondering would u know what dev. is going up there?Cheers Dave.
The cranes behing Riverpoint are probably either associated with the whole “Royal George” / Shannon St / Bank of Scotland re-development, or possibly connected to the re-development of the site where the Savoy used to stand. Will have to go down and check!
A few more shots. Not too much new development to be seen but interesting panoramas all the same. Taken fron the top floor of the Clarion Hotel:
Thanks again for those pics and Info.
I’m going to make my business one day to go up either the Riverpoint or the Clarion hotel 😎
I must say i like the red looking building mid left on the first pic (Clarion lookout)
It looks like a parisian or victorian style building . quite a character 🙂here’s more pictures any comments on them?
The Cresent
Georges st , by the Royal George building
Georges st by the old cruises hotel, wher the street stands today
another pic of the street black & white version
Don’t know if this has been mentioned before but can anyone tell me if there are plans to knock the lovely old stone buildings where Quin’s Pub and the garden centre are in Ellen St? I’ve heard a runour of this as I know there are plans to build (shudder) ‘Munster’s Largest Shopping Centre’ very close to that site.
Think those buildings would be a big loss myself. Any update on this?
i’ll try find out about that Haltothechimp.
The Munster Dev is going to be huge!
Even Willie O Dea has commented the project 😮
As far as I’m aware there is a number of buildings that are protected, I have not seen the quinns pub , so ill try get somwthing of interest.Jus read an article on the Limerick-leader , 24th November 2001
Dunnes Stores opens new city centre storeWELL on target, the magnificent new Dunnes Stores in Henry Street opened its doors to the public this Wednesday.
One must agree that the entire Henry Street area has taken on a new dimension in recent years, thanks to the foresight of investors.
Indeed, as I strolled through that part of the city during the week, it reminded me of the docklands areas in Liverpool and Manchester which were redeveloped in the Eighties.
Here we have towering buildings on the left hand side approaching Sarsfield Street, with plans on the drawing board for the old Carlton Cinema and the existing Eircom car park. It promises to be a street very much into the 21st Century.
There are, I am told, upwards of 650 car park spaces in the new Dunnes building, which should help to alleviate traffic congestion in the inner city.
The next question now is: What is to become of the Dunnes Stores premises alongside Sarsfield Bridge?
The next phase in the transformation of the inner city is expected to be in the Liddy Street / Arthur’s Quay area, where Roches Stores are to spend several million pounds in modernising their store.
As reported some months back, they have bought out the leasehold interest in several properties to the rear of their existing store.also don’t know whats happening herEntertainment plan old bank building
IT would now seem that plans are well in train to redevelop the former AIB premises in upper O’Connell Street into an entertainment centre.
When the property was originally put on the market a couple of years back, it was purchased by the Costelloe family, of Roscrea’s Racket Hall Country House Hotel fame.Then, a short while back it was put back onto the market, only to be later withdrawn.
It has now emerged that the Costelloe family plan an entertainment complex on the site, with doors due to open next March.
They are currently advertising for a financial controller.
The new premises is to be known, appropriate enough, as The Bank.
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Also, read somewhere recently that a new greyhound stadium is to be built somewhere on the Ennis Road, near the Two Mile Inn – I think. Definately a cause for gratuitous use of smiley faces. 🙂
Any update on this , the old greyhound stadium needs to be moved out of Garryowen to a new site.
I have never been to the new Limerick racecourse out by Patrickwell, it has a lot of good responses 🙂
@Tuborg wrote:
Limerick race company ltd has applied to raise the ground level on a portion of the old racecourse on the dock road/south circular rd in preparation for the large development that is planned for the site,this includes a large shopping complex,ofices park, industrial units, 1,000 residential units and a large number of sporting facilities and general public amenities. An application has also been submitted with regard to the hotel development at punches cross which includes a leisure centre and bar & restaurant,its not clear yet if the original public house is being retained as part of the development. A new building is also planned to replace the henry cecil that collapsed during the demolition of the carlton cinema,this was a real pity, im amazed no investigation was carried out or anybody brought to book over it, lets hope they replace it with something tasteful!..
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Turborg Has that development started yet?
Also is this the same development as you quoted , :confused:Application
Development
Type PERMISSION
Description Planning permission for development of mixed-use scheme at the former Greenpark Racecourse. The development includes a residential scheme which will consist of 353 residential units; consisting of 112 no. apartments, 17 no. maisonette apartments, 54 no. semi-detached units and 70 no. detached houses, 43 no. terraced houses, 29 no. duplex units and 28 no. apartments below duplex and playgrounds. The application also includes a neighbourhood centre incorporating; a creche, retail unit, coffee shop, doctor/dentist office. The application includes parking for approximately 725 vehicles at ground and basement level, ancillary site works, access roads and hard and soft landscaping. The application also includes the provision of a major recreation amentiy area incorporating playing pitches, changing facilities, informal recreation areas, landscaped amenity areas, ancillary parking (approximately 100 vehicle spaces), a playground and hard and soft landscapingSomw other major planning issues on Ellen street
04600 Madden Ger
c/o OBK Architects
30/31 Francis Street
Dublin 8
Planning permission for RETENTION and completion of a mixed use development comprising of 6 storeys over basement to maximum height of 23.7m above grade comprising 34 no. underground car park spaces, 5 no. ground floor retail units totalling 916.8 sq.m, 43 no. 2-bed apartments and 3 no. 3 bed apartments on first to fifth floors with associated balconies, roof garden and associated site development works including connection to existing public sewer will be provided Ellen Street
corner of Carr Street and
Punch’s Row04601 Madden Gerard
Bellview
Athlunkard
Limerick
Planning permission for mixed use development of 5 storeys over a two level basement comprising of 4 floors of offices totaling 6430 m2, 7 no. ground floor shop units totalling 1235m2, a 56 bedroom budget hotel with reception area and 163 car parking spaces and associated site development works including connection to existing public sewer will be providedAhern Eymard
Routagh
Ballysheedy
Co. Limerick
to demolish existing building and to construct 2 storey building comprising 2 retail outlets on the ground floor and 2 offices on the first floor. This is part of a Protected Structure 20 Henry Street
Limerick
I am finding it difficult to get some relevant information on the Royal George site online considering the size and scale of the development?
Although I can say the development has seen a lot of retail interest in recent weeks.Can anyone please update on it , it would be great a thanks 😉
BTW , out of curiosity whats happening with Symths store on Henry st , an nice facade and quite a character in need of refurbishments , now that Symths have there new store on the Childers road they could make use of it now .
and any word the Eircom building too ?Its almost heartbreaking to see those photos from years gone by, O Connell st was much more impressive back then, it really was a grand street with many fine buildings, i’ve got a book full of pictures like this at home and the lower portion of the street has changed almost beyond recognition since the 1950s, a fair amount of this was down to unfortunate tragedies, both roches and todds were destroyed by fire and cannocks was demolished instead of being restored 😡 of course todds was replaced with what is probably the city’s ugliest building, surely brown thomas take more pride in their appearance than this!
O Connell street from the corner of bedford row where the bank of Ireland now stands
This is a pic of william st with the todds building on the right, quite an imposing building, they dont make em like this anymore!
As for the planning app, ya its the same development, the residential element is being built in 3 phases, not sure if its got permission yet but it definately will as the city council themselves drew up the masterplan with the limerick race company, there is to be a commemorative monument to mark the popes visit and one to mark john traceys world championship win there, in fairness it looks like a well balanced development on paper!, this was also to be the site of the new greyhound stadium but there was problems with the ground conditions, a new state of the art stadium is going ahead at coonagh cross and should be open within 2 years, speaking of coonagh cross more details have been released of the shopping complex planned for the area, looks pretty run of the mill and boring to me! http://www.coonaghcross.com
Seems like every new shopping centre in limerick is claiming to be the biggest, so is the planned development at the back of patrick st, hopefully we’ll hear some concrete details fairly soon, it has the potential to be a really positive development for the city centre but only if its done right, what we dont want is a big soul-less shopping centre, what i would much rather see is a retention of the existing streets, there are many interesting and historical buildings in this quarter of the city and it would be a travesty is they were all destroyed, this area should be rejuvenated using existing buildings and where it is neccessary clear the derelict sites and replace them with new structures,it would be a much more vibrant and atmospheric place if the majority of this area was kept intact!
Some great images there. Any chance of some present day streetscape images that might give a bit of context to all these new developments being discussed? – thanks.
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I am so glad the point (and this discussion at large) has come to pass. I have for a long time wished I had the insight to bring intuition if my 16 yr old mind to the planning table when Arthurs key Shopping centre was being built. It failed for a number of reasons. 1. It was so over hyped that everyone was very excited about it, so it’s flaws were initially accepted. 2. It was conceived very obviously by someone, perhaps not from limerick, or who had never been to places like paris, rome, copenhagen etc, where the use of space in cities is the very thing that makes them not just attractive to look at, but also places that are nice to be in. Arthurs Quay should have been built, but on the waterfront, where the (junky filled) park now is. The park is a hiding place, but could so easily have swapped position with the shopping centre, making it a wide cobbled centre piece to a city that would evolve promisingly thereafter. Imagine if limerick had a square/open space as its centre: It would be sheltered from the river, and even the shopping center on the river’s edge could have had it’s awful restuarants/cafes on the river front, overlooking the marina and some of the best views in Limerick.
I think the people who failed in their capacity at this level owe the people who are proud of Limerick a debt.
You have some interesting points made on Arthur’s quay,
I just want to highlight it 🙂Firstly I like your ideas of the land use of the Quay and that plan would work really well and seem to compliment the river and city as whole.
And old picture of the Quay!
Secondly. The existing development was a failure from the day it opened (In my opinion), and agree on all points mentioned above, but on a positive note it was probably the only new mall that hit off of its kind in the city at that time,(mid 1980s)
the Building does not blend or give any real buzz of a city mall.
Some thoughts on the SC,
The carpark above gives deadness to both sides of the SC ie patricks st and the Quay.
The plan of thr building is rather boring for a potential site/
the Building does not blend or give any real buzz of a city mall.
No Architectural significance or symbolism for the centre.Thirdly, Imagine having a revitalised O’Connell’s street and Ellen st/Rutland street makeovers beside a central plaza? (Flattened Arthur’s Quay SC)
Sound exhilarating!I also think the Arthur’s quay park is a total failure. (Many would agree I guess
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The reasons why I think the park is a Failure
1. Its literally dead end, It’s out of reach when considering it been a city park
2. It does not have any purpose than physically just a view of the river Shannon
(When the entire city is enclaved and surrounded by it!)
4 It’s covered with tress and steps and badly planned, very little opening feeling or atmosphere, “of a parkâ€
5. It doesn’t compliment the river (In my mind)E.g. if I was a tourist and didn’t Know Limerick to well, I’d probably not even know the park exist. (Not saying you wouldn’t find it possible) Not to mention the very little footfall on it from my experience.
I think city parks that are cut off or on the peripheral/Isolated areas of the city]www.coonaghcross.ie[/url],
It’s a fine shopping centre, but not with hype and praise, It has graded itself as the largest SC in the Midwest, laughable, I still think with the extension of the Crescent coming on shortly , It will be knocked of the top spot!
Like you said, the City centre development will be another mark in Munster, and claim the title,
I can’t wait to see some images of the city project. 🙂try a read of the Sunday Times Article on Georgian Limerick, quite interesting 🙂
Link. below
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,2771-1761028_2,00.htmlArthurs quay once more..
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sorry for small image, what is the name of this building ? I can't seem to remember 😮
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“Information on the Royal George site that was here is now deleted as Turborg has corrected and updated on this” further down.
I’m working on it , Lol.I can understand the expectations of some images when there are so much exciting and significant developments going on..
We’re getting there bit by bit considering a small minorthy are posting pics including myself 🙂
“self praise is no praise” 😀
Anyway here we go…Over the next few weeks i’ll get what I can on the various developments.
I’M hungry to find pics of Devlopments online and wherever, 🙂
main priorothy listsBedford Row site,
Royal george hotel,
Old Jurys site and Ennis rd hotel , (which are under planning),
heres a for a link to the Jetland SC brochure>http://www.hok.ie/images/commercial…08_brochure.pdf
It will open this month. main tenant is Dunnes, along with 24 other retail units , as far as I’m aware.
The Cresent Shopping centre does not have a website on there developments etc. jawdropping 😮
But I can say its progressing well now, And rumours were to have the new mall estension ny christmas, but right now I have no definate answer to the dates.
H&M , River Island, Next,music store and Rumours and talks with Pennys and other existing tenants in the centre are putting there interest in the new retail unitsB]Park Canal[/B], there is plenty of information on this at referral link. http://www.limerick.city.ie
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[/align:2b3o9z7o]Quite a lot happening at Ul at the Moment with new Business school and Architectural school all going ahead,
the expansion on the Clare side is well progressing, new boating facilties and aqua facities by the Shannon,and more student campuses, including a village
I’ll try get some pics at a later date.MaryI is getting underway with its multi- million Euro extension, there is a lot pictures here beforehand , and I will l update on this. another Link, http://www.murrayoloaire.com
But the Big one has got to be the city centre transformation by Patricks, Ellenand Rutland street areas!
There will be news coming on stream with this project in the next cuple of weeeks or so , but at the moment its hush hush.for the time being.Also here is a map of Limerick and its regional centre’s , the Castletroy shopping centre is not mentioned in it surprisingly, and some new roads planned or underconstruction.
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i guess riverpoint is opening soon. i’ll have to pop down to limerick to get a look at it then. information that i saw a couple of wees ago said it will be a september opening. it does look much nicer than the clarion. exciting stuff.
These are some pics of the michael street area of Limerick that is destined for major development over the next couple of years, there is a lot of under utilised space in this part of the city centre so any development that would bring life back to this area would be welcome, however with important buildings such as the granary(below) nearby it will have to be a quality development, well thought out, not dictated by greedy developers and overall has be sustainable and in character with the rest of the area to form a natural extension of the city centre!
This is the rutland street area of the city just off patrick st and o connell street, it is immediately behind these buildings that the development will take place, it was rumoured that 1 or 2 of the buildings that were in need of refurbishment were bought out, (surely not for demolition), this would be a disaster as this is one of the finest georgian terraces in the city and any break in it would destroy the whole fabric of the area
This is the area down towards the hunt museum,the potato market and city hall,its highly unlikely that any of these buildings would be sacrificed, it would be equivelent to murder if they were!
If you look across the river,there is a rather dilapidated 2 storey office block,this is where the new development will meet the abbey river on charlotte quay
BTW dave you can discount that application from the royal george, its was withdrawn after the hotel was sold, aidan brooks bought the site and plans a department store on the ground and first floor with hotel rooms on the top 3 floors with entrance via shannon street beside the newly built retail units in the bank of scotland building!, not sure about the old racecourse, all i know is that construcion has started on a large residential development there, i imagine they’re just re-jigging their application!
Tubourg,
You have postings regarding mixed-use development at the Racecourse on the Dock Road. Seems the retail planning application was withdrawn in Feb. Any idea what is happening out there?
Why so down on Arthurs Quay Park? It’s a great spot, far from perfect mind but one of the more insightful projects of recent times.
The views from it are second to none and the tourist office is one of the most interesting designs to grace the city – its integration into the the design of the park and its distinct iconographic form, being very much of its time and place – are just two of its good points.
It’s preceived isolation stems from the fact that its surroundings are so hideous – Arthurs Quay is an abomination, a completely wasted opportunity, just like its cousin – Merchants Quay in Cork. It turns its back on the street which is a real shame, because the width of the footpaths facing the park could easily have accomodated outdoor cafe’s, restaurants, kiosks etc and livened the place up no end. The state of Sarsfield Shopping Centre and the arse end of Roches Stores hardly warrent mention and the idea that the railings around the park are the cause of its troubles doesn’t really stand up if you consider the fact that Stephens Green and Peoples Park are both surrounded by railings like almost every other park – anywhere.
The park is under utilised because there is no reason for any body to venture into that part of town on account of the buildings in the area. If that changes the park will begin to fulfill its potential ex. a new theatre on the site of Sarsfield S.C..
In the mean time I think it would be a great idea if the city council along with local restaurants and perhaps someone like the Belltable Film Club could organise outdoor films during the summer in the park. When I lived in new York was involved with an organisation which was trying to ensure the responsible development of a new riverside park in Brooklyn, they held a film series each summer at the venue and it was very succesful in raising the profile of the project – I think also that play(s) were staged in the People’s Park this year. Arthurs Quay could benefit greatly from similar ideas – it’s certainly a suitable venue.
As for the new shopping centre around Patrick St – definately agree with the idea that outdoor streets shoud be retained, its difficult to imagine how it could happen any other way with all the existing buildings which will have to be integrated into it’s design and if you compare the precedents in the city already – Arthurs Quay and Cruises St. (whatever about the style of tis design), it’s no contest surely. I think the office building mentioned as a potential entrance to the complex is the Cahill may Roberts building ( sorry – no picture) . It’s the lilac coloured, 2 storey thing beside the Granary?
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