well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

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  • #755518
    mitchell
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    I haven’t been back to Limerick in a few months, still no change to the site?

    #755519
    AerialPhoto.ie
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    If you’re referring to the Parkway Valley site then no, that photo was taken on November 30th and while there are a few guys on site I don’t think there is any major ongoing work.

    #755520
    dave123
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    http://www.limerickcity.ie/OurServices/PlanningandDevelopment/LimerickDraftCityCentreStrategy2007/Thefile,6697,en.pdf

    This is a really good read. Breaks down the city into its former regions. Each part of the city has much potential.

    #755521
    dave123
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    I spotted this out of interest. A development lodged for Catherine street.

    Anyone know what’s going on with this. There is ALOT of interest to redevelop Catherine street. I would like to see architectural merit brought into context along this street. There is a lot of Character along this street that needs highlighting. Henry Street redevelopment has been very sucessful, mainly because of private investors and most of the street was a derelict wasteland prior to the redevelopment. Catherine street and Parnell street needs attention now, (while the wait for the fourth crossing and O’Connells street pedestrianisatoin comes on 2010)

    http://buckplanning.blogspot.com/2007/12/proposals-for-40m-limerick-city-centre.html

    #755522
    dave123
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    In relation to the planning crisis in Limerick, is there not any coherent or balanced plans on the agenda to spread the city’s population in a circular fashion and not just all to Raheen and Castletroy. I know Castletroy is a very desired suburb. But there are many parts of the city that could be rezoned. For example the city council wants to have a population increase in its city boundary. They had drawn up a plan for the rezoning of lands in Caherdavin. Minister Gormly I think wants the city boundary to go ahead under the one administration. The parts of Clare will be part of the city boundary. But it will still be known as Country Clare. The urban area that spills into Clare should be in control of the city limits, for it is in the city limits.

    I have to say the city is a planning mess right now. The road at Coonagh should have already been extended to Moyross. Though I’m glad the city council are working on the inner orbital this will allow the pedestrianisation to go ahead.

    Hopefully fingers crossed the Opera centre will go ahead, or at least we will find a way to use this site. The knocking of Arthurs quay into a Limerick centre heart for the people.

    Limerick is on the right track for the future if we bring a more balanced/community feel to any development that is proposed. The money monopoly/orientation has to go. The corruption is not to be tolerated anymore.

    #755523
    dave123
    Participant

    http://www.healypartners.com/pj_gpo.html

    Has this scheme started back on the move.

    #755524
    dave123
    Participant

    http://www.limerick.ie/Publications/Thefile,8018,en.pdf

    There is a lot of info on the developments and projects in discription for Limerick. Esepcially the Arthurs Quqy project. So it looks like this will move quicker than the Opera centre??

    If anything it will still be positive. Since many of the buildings are brought out and the city wants a proper city centre square and demolition of Arthurs quay park and centre, it will defenatley put the city centre focus back in the right direction. If anything, this will enhance the prospects of the Opera centre going ahead.

    #755525
    foinse
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    @dave123 wrote:

    http://www.healypartners.com/pj_gpo.html

    Has this scheme started back on the move.

    Doubt it, they’ve boarded up the entrances and taken down the hoarding giving the footpath and a lane of traffic back to Henry Street, having done that i can’t see them doing anything with it for the foreseeable future.

    #755526
    foinse
    Participant

    @dave123 wrote:

    http://www.limerick.ie/Publications/Thefile,8018,en.pdf

    There is a lot of info on the developments and projects in discription for Limerick. Esepcially the Arthurs Quqy project. So it looks like this will move quicker than the Opera centre??

    If anything it will still be positive. Since many of the buildings are brought out and the city wants a proper city centre square and demolition of Arthurs quay park and centre, it will defenatley put the city centre focus back in the right direction. If anything, this will enhance the prospects of the Opera centre going ahead.

    Dave that document has been floating around since 2007, the Arthurs quay development is only a proposal of what could be there, the main reason for that document was outlining the changes to the quay’s and strands, the pedestrianisation of Thomas St, Bedford Row, and O’Connell St, along with improvements on Catherine St and William St. it also covers the orbital route, these were the only projects with actual plans, when this document was published.

    #755527
    dave123
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    THere is a site on live maps (last 2007) that is accross from The Clarion. It is at the junction of Dock road and O’Curry street corner. Is this site developed? Is this where the 8/9 story building was built recently. This site is an atrractive prime site for something new fresh and innovative? When the Bypass is completeed, I’d imagine the Dock road will not be as bad with traffic. What do you think could be built here? An high artictectual birght
    high rise to sister the Clarion???

    I personally would love a green energy efficient well designed tower that has solar energy capability. This could be the high rise could be the Convention centre in the city centre too? Any ideas.

    The ESB site is has tremendous potential.

    #755528
    dave123
    Participant

    @foinse wrote:

    Doubt it, they’ve boarded up the entrances and taken down the hoarding giving the footpath and a lane of traffic back to Henry Street, having done that i can’t see them doing anything with it for the foreseeable future.

    Surely they can complete this building, its Henry street. They have to be moronic not to see the potential here. They should just get off their asses and finish it unpaid at this rate. it’s not acceptable to leave a prime building corner on a busy city centre street while new developments are still going on in this city.

    #755529
    foinse
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    Dave i agree with you 100%, i work across the road from it and have to look at it every day. it’s a bloody eyesore.

    #755530
    foinse
    Participant

    Plans to extend shopping centre lodged with council

    Published Date: 16 January 2010
    By Nick Rabbitts
    DEVELOPERS have lodged plans to extend the Woodview Shopping Centre, near the Limerick Institute of Technology.
    For the second time in the space of under 12 months, Ger & Jacinta Rodahan have lodged plans with the local authority to extend the small shopping area, which at the moment is home to the Centra shop run by the Rodahans, a hair salon, and a late-night pharmacy.

    They have applied for a single storey extension to the centre for three retail units, with the extension measuring 155 square metres.

    Last September, Limerick City Council gave the go-ahead to an extension of Woodview Shopping Centre, in a move which will effectively see it double in size.

    According to those plans, the site will double from its current size of 500 square metres and incorporate five new retail units, and one new food market.

    At the time, Mayor Kevin Kiely welcomed the development.

    “It’s near the two schools (St Nessans and LIT) and there is a huge population there from the immediate area. I have always been looking for better amenities in my ward. I think we need extra shops in that area though.”

    However, Mayor Kiely said residents should get together and discuss the plans if they feel concerned.

    #755531
    Griff
    Participant

    I saw this application – it was posted just before Christmas – if my memory is right this was previously refused ?.. I thought the thinking was no more cinemas outside of the city centre and now we have a possible 3 .. Coonagh , Jetland and Ballysimon… hope Hollywood ups the outout for the increased demand.

    January 2010
    By Nick Rabbitts
    DEVELOPERS are planning to build a seven-screen, 1,300-seat cinema on the city’s northside.

    MZM Holdings has lodged an application with the city planning authority to change the use of three units in the Ennis Road retail park to one single unit.

    The project – if it gets the go-ahead from Limerick City Council – would see a seven-screen cinema, consisting of 1,338 seats built on the Ennis Road retail park, near to the Jetland Shopping Centre.

    If the plans get the green light, it will represent the second cinema to be granted permission on the northside, following an application by Chieftain Construction to build at Coonagh Cross.

    Full story: See our Wednesday edition

    According to the application lodged by developers MZM Holdings, the proposals also include a children’s party area and a computer entertainment facility.
    The developers have described the proposals to construct a cinema as something which will “diversify” the mix which already exists on the northside of the city.
    The development, they say, “will provide an active recreational use for the area. The provision of a cinema would provide a significant amenity facility for the residents and employees of the Ennis Road area and would significantly enhance the attractiveness of the retail park as an employment mode.”
    Mayor Kevin Kiely, also a northside councillor, said he would rather see a cinema at Coonagh Cross. But he would welcome “this alternative location”.
    “It will provide local facilities for that area. I have been talking to planners, and they are anxious that at least one cinema complex goes ahead,” he stated.
    Labour councillor Tom Shortt said the lack of a cinema on the northside was one of the major issues he came across on his election campaign.
    “Strangely you would think the calls would come from young people, but there were also calls from older people. I am not surprised that somebody has identified there is a market there which I genuinely think there is a huge demand for.
    To go to a cinema, people (from the northside] have to essentially cross the city. The major inconvenience here is for parents. One of the biggest sectors who use cinemas are young people, and this is a transport problem. Parents are dropping their kids across the city, and no sooner have they got home, it is time to collect them again,” he said.
    Ger O’Rourke of Chieftain Construction last week told the Limerick Leader he believes his proposed cinema at Coonagh Cross will be ready to open by the end of this year or early next year.
    As the Limerick Leader went to press, no spokesperson for MZM Holdings was available for comment.

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    Last Updated: 20 January 2010 8:37 AM
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    Location: Limerick

    #755532
    tradcentric
    Participant

    I read this today over at ‘An Irish Town Planner’s Blog’:

    “…it emerged in recent days that the toxic loans agency Nama is prepared to demolish half-completed buildings which it believes have no value as commercial or residential developments.

    Nama faces the tough task of dealing with €21bn of work-in-progress assets and deciding what the long-term future of each asset is. Demolition of some sites and returning them to agricultural use is already being actively considered by Nama.”

    I wonder will someone at NAMA have some sense and knock the half-built Parkway Valley shopping centre and return the site to green fields?. It was as bad idea in the first place and if it was ever completed would completely suck the life out of the already struggling city centre. A friend recently described it as ‘Limerick’s weathervane’ as the only thing the cranes are useful for is telling you which direction the wind it blowing. Surely the wind is blowing it towards demolition? It might be nice to keep one of the cranes though – it can act as a post-boom-bust reminder of developers’ folly.

    #755533
    Griff
    Participant

    hmmmmmmm I wonder now…
    http://www.limerickpost.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3607:parkway-valley-sc-set-to-proceed&catid=37:local-news&Itemid=60

    Parkway Valley SC set to proceed
    by John O’Shaughnessy
    Wednesday, 07 September 2011 15:35
    INDIAN-born investor Suneil Sharma, who put the ill-fated Opera Centre package together, has now diverted his attention to the abandoned Parkway Valley Shopping centre, having completed negotiations with National Irish Bank to purchase the site. It has also emerged that Mr Sharma parted with €30 million in acquiring the adjoining retail park, a major success since it opened about eight years ago.

    According to an Irish Times report, NIB, owned by Danske, the Danish banking group, had exposure of €100 million on the 15-acre site.

    The retail park, home to TK Maxx, Currys, Homebase and PC World, and others, produces annual income of around €3million.
    Shortly after he assembled the site for the Opera Centre, he sold on his interests to a Dublin-based consortium, headed by developer Gerry O’Reilly.
    In fact, the Belfast-based Mr Sharma has developed a ‘love’ affair with Limerick in that the Childers Road Retail Park, where the site was purchased from City Council, was also his brainchild.
    He later sold to a Dublin based property group.
    The Parkway Valley project was abandoned in 2008 when the Zoe Group, owned by developer Liam Carroll, went into liquidation.
    According to reports, Mr Sharma will control 100 per cent of the equity, with the development expected to cost around €60m to complete.
    A few hurdles will have to be overcome before work can proceed on the Dublin Road site; the County Council, for example, will have to grant an extension of the planning permission as the original consent has run out.
    Also, city centre traders are unlikely to take too kindly to any development there.
    Patrick Street businessman Tony Connolly, recently told the Limerick Post that full concentration should be on developing the Opera Centre rather than the Parkway Valley, helping to bring life back into the city centre.
    It is suggested that the owners of the Crescent SC, which has one of the highest footfalls in the country, are monitoring developments at the Parkway Valley project with a view to a possible involvement.
    They had lined up Marks & Spencer for the Crescent two years ago, as exclusively reported in the Limerick Post, and were disappointed when planning permission for an extension was refused.
    The original plan for the Parkway Valley was for almost 40,000 sq m to accommodate 50 shop units, three anchor tenants and 1,650 parking spaces.

    #755534
    Griff
    Participant

    Meanwhile back in town….
    http://www.limerickpost.ie/index.php/navigation-mainmenu-30/local-news/3561-mas-key-link-to-city-centre-project-.html

    M&S key link to city centre project
    by Limerick Post exclusive by Marie Hobbins
    Thursday, 01 September 2011 09:30
    Council to seek expressions of interest in large tract of land

    EXPRESSIONS of interest in a prime city centre site are to be sought by City Council, which could result in the long awaited arrival of Marks & Spencer.
    It is understood that M&S are part of current negotiations, as are the Roche Group, which has leased its former Roches Stores premises to Debenhams.

    The area involved includes Sarsfield Street, lower O’Connell Street and Liddy Street, as well as the vacated Dunnes Stores site and a section of Arthur’s Quay Park.
    An impeccable source has confirmed to the Limerick Post that although the council will officially advertise for expressions of interest, “there really is only one gig in town, and that is the developer, Michael Tiernan.”
    It has also been confirmed that a prominent Limerick city business woman is involved.
    Some years ago, the Limerick Post exclusively revealed Mr Tiernan’s plan to demolish the aforementioned city centre block.
    The proposed development, put on hold when the Opera Centre was approved, is now, according to reliable sources, “ready to roll.”
    Marks and Spencer are being sought as anchor tenant, and serious talks are taking place.
    “The area is ripe for development and there is no impediment to the title, if approval is given by the Department of the Marine,” the Limerick Post was told
    Shortly before going to press, this newspaper was informed that Mr Tiernan, brother-in-law of accountant Gerry Boland, closely associated with JP McManus, is also keen to purchase the Opera Centre, which would be a welcome development for the council.
    Another source told the Limerick Post: “Mr Tiernan, who developed the Arthur’s Quay Shopping Centre, would ideally like to attract M&S to the city.
    “Such a move would gain the goodwill of the council, which would have reservations about any possible entry of M&S into Arthur’s Quay Park, a proposal which had been put on the table”.

    #755535
    daire english
    Participant

    That m&s project seems optimistic more than anything but such a development is sorely needed:(

    #755536
    Griff
    Participant

    Not to be promoting m&s or anything but it’s one shop that would def help increase footfall in the city….
    and they do have a great deal in buy one pair of jocks get one at half price !!!

    Delighted to see this building get some TLC.. more info here..

    http://www.limerickpost.ie/index.php/navigation-mainmenu-30/local-news/3492-port-company-kickstarts-buildings-restoration.html

    29082011604 by Gryff123, on Flickr

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