well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?
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The Limerick Leader are reporting that construction of the new co-located private hospital on the grounds of the Regional Hospital in Dooradoyle is to be delayed after An Bord Pleanala re-instated an appeal against the development.
Work stops as appeal on Limerick Beacon hospital is reinstated
By David Hurley
PREPARATORY works for the construction of a private hospital on the grounds of the Regional Hospitalhave ground to a halt after An Bord Pleanala agreed to re-instate an appeal which was initially deemed invalid.
In June, Limerick County Council granted planning permission to the Beacon Medical Group to construct the 25,000 square metre facility despite receiving a number of objections to the proposed hospital.In its planning application, The Beacon Medical Group stated that over 400 people would be directly employed at the co-located facility with 183 beds and six operating theatres.
The decision of the local authority to grant planning permission was appealed to An Bord Pleanala by Tom O’Donoghue from Dromineer, County Tipperary but in August his appeal was declared invalid by An Bord Pleanala.
This paved the way for the €250m project to proceed. However, the Limerick Chronicle has learned that the Beacon Medical Group and Mr O’Donoghue were informed last week that An Bord Pleanala had agreed to reinstate the appeal after Mr O’Donoghue initiated judicial review proceedings.
A decision relating to Mr O’Donoghue’s appeal is not expected until early next year.
Just a quick heads-up.
Fordmount Developments have presented further information to the city planners regarding their proposed redevelopment of the Limerick Boat Club site. A decision on the application is due by the middle of November!
I see the Masterplan for the regeneration of Limerick has been unveiled..
http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/Master-Plan-for-Limerick-city.4639438.jp
costs are reported as being 3 billion euro – wasnt this 1 billion before ?..As we’re talking hospitals, can someone tell me if construction of the adare private hospital has sarted yet.
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Last time i saw O’callaghan strand the new paving was progressing very well with more workers on site then i expected for a job of it’s size.Has it advanced much in the last month?These works can really transform this section of the the river and open it as a nice riverside walk from thomond bridge to the new bridge.
@demolition man wrote:
As we’re talking hospitals, can someone tell me if construction of the adare private hospital has sarted yet.
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Last time i saw O’callaghan strand the new paving was progressing very well with more workers on site then i expected for a job of it’s size.Has it advanced much in the last month?These works can really transform this section of the the river and open it as a nice riverside walk from thomond bridge to the new bridge.
Yes i’m living on o’callaghans strand, and it’s really starting to come together, the railings are up and they’ve started installing the benches. I’ll try to get a pic or two up later.
In an effort to pave the way for the redevelopment of the Limerick Boat Club site, Limerick City Council have officially proposed an amendment to the City Development Plan to remove both the Clubhouse and the Boathouse from the list of Protected Structures.
Limerick City Council
COMHAIRLE CATHRACH LUIMNIGHPlanning and Development Act, 2000
NOTICE OF THE PROPOSED DELETION FROM THE RECORD OF PROTECTED STRUCTURES IN THE LIMERICK CITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN 2004-2010
Notice is hereby given pursuant to section 54 & 55 of the Planning and Development Act 2000 (as amended) that it is proposed to make a deletion to the Record of Protected Structures in the Limerick City Development Plan 2004, in respect of the following:
RPS300 Limerick Boat Club
(Clubhouse and Boathouse)
This addition has not been recommended by the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government. The National Inventory of Architectural Heritage (NIAH) reference is 21512013.
Particulars of the proposed deletion will be on view to the public from Monday, 3rd November 2008 to Monday 15th December 2008, both dates inclusive between the hours of 10am and 4pm (inclusive of lunch) at the Planning & Economic Development Department, First Floor, Limerick City Council, City Hall, Merchants Quay, Limerick. Details may also be viewed on the City Council’s website at http://www.limerickcity.ie
Written submissions or observations in regard to this proposed deletion should be made in writing, to reach the Administrative Officer, Planning and Development Depaartment, City Hall, Merchants Quay, Limerick, before 4pm on Monday, 15th December 2008 and should be marked “Proposed Deletion to the Record of Protected Structures”. Any such submissions or observations will be taken into consideration before the deletion.
JOHN FIELD,
Head of Finance / Director of Planning & Economic Development Department,
Limerick City Council.Planning has been refused for an extension to the Coonagh Cross shopping centre on the Ennis Road.
Limerick’s Coonagh Cross extension plans refused (Limerick Leader)
By John Hogan
EIGHT hundred potential jobs on the Northside of the city have been lost, after permission was refused for an extension to the Coonagh Cross Shopping Centre.
Plans for the proposed 17,319 squared metres extension at the shopping centre were submitted to Limerick City Council in early September but the Limerick Leader has learned that the application has been unsuccessful. The West Mall extension would have consisted of malls, food outlets, kiosks, a play area and a cinema.Permission was not granted as the council felt it would have contravened the Limerick City Centre Strategy, would have resulted in the oversupply of retail floor space at the site and would have created a traffic hazard.
Sean O’Sullivan, director of Chieftain Construction – the firm behind the development – wrote in a letter to Regeneration CEO Brendan Kenny that this decision sends out the message that Limerick isn’t open for business. Positive mention had been made of the Coonagh Cross development and its job creation prospects in the draft Regeneration document.
“Obviously private investment/services provision/job creation is a key cornerstone of your report/vision and all have been denied in one swoop of the pen,” Mr O’Neill.
“We are dead in the water without this extension. We cannot lease (or open) the current built facility without positive planning for the West Mall. The retailers won’t operate in the as-built centre as it isn’t viable i.e. doesn’t have the critical mass to make it viable.
“No additional investment will be allowed by our banks and no jobs will be created without positive planning for the West Mall. That’s a €150m investment/development on the Northside permanently shelved.”
Chieftain had estimated that 800 permanent jobs would have been created at Coonagh Cross as a result of the development and that a further 1,000 people would have been indirectly employed. The company has already paid €3m in planning contributions to Limerick City Council and would have been paying €1.25m-a-year in rates.
Mr O’Neill also wrote that the retail strategy for the area was predicted to be in draft format by March 2009. He added, however, that he expected it to remain a draft for many months afterwards because of ongoing disagreements between Limerick City and County Councils and Clare County Council.
The Chieftain director requested a meeting with Brendan Kenny to discuss the refused permission and requested his support at a follow-on meeting with council planning staff.
Local City Cllr Kevin Kiely said he was “at a loss” as to why the planning permission had been refused for the West Mall extension at Coonagh Cross.
“We don’t have a facility like the Crescent or Parkway shopping centres on the Northside of the city. Because there’s only one tenant (Tesco) out there at the moment, not as many people are going there as you’d like but the owners were in negotiation with a second anchor tenant. They can’t offer them the same deal now that planning has been refused,” said Cllr Kiely.
“I understand the council want to protect the city centre retailers but developments like the Opera Centre and Arthur’s Quay are four or five years down the road.
“This is a greenfield site with parking on the Northside and would have served somewhere in the region of 18,000 people.”
The creation of a retail hub for the northside of the city would be desirable in an ideal world. However due to the chronic level of incompetence that has already led to a severe oversupply of retail space in the suburbs, to the detriment of the city centre, the council were always going to take a negative stance on any additional out of town developments!
Whats interesting about this refusal is that the original planning permission for the site would have been granted by the county council… now that its within the city borough its up to the city council to decide on the future of out of town shopping on the north side of the city… presumably the regeration of Moyross was a factor ??.
Mayor: I won’t be blackmailed over boat club plans for city
By Anne Sheridan
MAYOR of Limerick Cllr John Gilligan said he will not be “blackmailed” into voting in favour of the plans for the €20million redevelopment of Limerick Boatclub, which members say could be forced to close if the plans aren’t given the go-ahead by City Hall.
Mayor Gilligan said he will be voting against the motion to remove the building from a list of protected structures later this month, as he is completely opposed to the redesigned plans for the site.
“It’s an absolutely horrible, dreadful building and sticks out like a sore thumb. We should never even consider doing anything this. Hard decisions have to be made when you’re planning a city and my answer will be ‘no’,” he told this newspaper.
Limerick Boatclub had previously urged councillors to look at the “big picture”, stating that the new plans for the site would greatly attract new members and had looked at all other options for the site.
But Mayor Gilligan said “maybe it’s not the site that’s the problem. Maybe they should look at new ways of getting their members.”
So I think we can safely say that the Mayor is voting against it and its thought that the other 3 independent councillors may follow suit. A majority of the 17 city councillors will have to support the motion in order for the boatclub to be removed from the list of protected structures!
Does the northside really have population for similar retail to Raheen/Castletroy? In addition, presumably the more affluent parts are unlikely to shop at a local development on the northside. Also some of the northside is walking distance to the city centre.
Plus there is the Jetland centre (which is not exactly thriving) – thus ensuring Coonagh Cross has even less attraction.
I really doubt extending Coonagh Cross would save it – it would merely mean a greater white elephant than at present.
@KeepAnEyeOnBob wrote:
Does the northside really have population for similar retail to Raheen/Castletroy? In addition, presumably the more affluent parts are unlikely to shop at a local development on the northside. Also some of the northside is walking distance to the city centre.
Plus there is the Jetland centre (which is not exactly thriving) – thus ensuring Coonagh Cross has even less attraction.
I really doubt extending Coonagh Cross would save it – it would merely mean a greater white elephant than at present.
As has already been mentioned, it was Limerick County Council who approved this development because of course this area was under their jurisdiction at that time. Its pretty clear that the County Council have a very different interpretation of the Mid West Retail Strategy than their city counterparts. Unfortunately out in County Hall €€€€€ seems to be more important than proper planning!:rolleyes: Its fair to say Coonagh Cross would not have been given the go ahead by the City Council.
Speaking of the Jetland, the Bank of Ireland are to open a branch in the unit originally set aside for a Library/medical centre.
08376
Permission to install hardwood timber security doors, 2 no. ATM machines & post/data delivery hatch, replace surrounding glazing with render to the West elevation, the addition of security bollards to North & East elevations, the addition of emergency escape & cash in transit door openings and new glazed entrance system to East elevation, replace existing glazing with security glazing throughout, the addition of signage to all elevations and all associated site works at the vacant Medical Centre/Library.
The Jetland Centre
Clonmacken/Ennis Road
Caherdavin@Tuborg wrote:
So I think we can safely say that the Mayor is voting against it and its thought that the other 3 independent councillors may follow suit. A majority of the 17 city councillors will have to support the motion in order for the boatclub to be removed from the list of protected structures!
Afaik, a majority of the council are against this development, thankfully.
The proposed building remains a hideous mess.
anybody know what the future for no’s 50 & 51 Catherine St. is? The stoop is fenced off and I can’t quite read the site notice from the street.
@justnotbothered wrote:
Afaik, a majority of the council are against this development, thankfully.
The proposed building remains a hideous mess.
Thats good to hear, I believe the vote will take place towards the end of the month.
Having recently seen the “revised” plans, I simply cannot believe the lack of respect it pays to Sarsfield bridge and the 1916 memorial. The gimmicky white paneling is absolutely abysmal!
@jpsartre wrote:
anybody know what the future for no’s 50 & 51 Catherine St. is? The stoop is fenced off and I can’t quite read the site notice from the street.
Those 2 houses are in a desperate state of repair, indeed they arent far off structural failure. As far as I know, an order has been served to carry out the necessary repairs so I presume this work will be getting underway soon.
That proposed “park and ride” facility is a joke, surely?
The developer has some cheek to try to justify building a mini-shopping strip near what is a major road interchange (and presumably will be a motorway interchange once Limerick to Nenagh is done) by calling it a “park ‘n ride” facility as if they were providing a piece of public transport infrastructure. Park n’ ride facilites don’t need banks, shops or anything else as presumably all these facilities are available to the users once the alight from the bus in the centre of the city.
Of course this is probably going to the county’s planning office who are likely to be happy to rubber stamp it for the rates continuing the “donutting” of Limerick.
Do we understand this is a P&R to serve buses? Are there QBC’s here I don’t know about? The extraordinary thing is that Lisnagry has the Nenagh train track runnng right through it. If anybody is serious about a P&R on the Dublin road this is where it should be. The Green party have been talking about a rail supported P&R at the junction of the Limerick By-Pass and the Ballysimon road for years. This is certainly feasible.
Agreed. It is a joke. Public transport is not taken seriously here. This is just one more cynical attempt to justify a development that has no merit whatsoever (except for developers and rate recipients).
Is there any more news on the park canal? I’ve tried walking down there a few times lately but teenage scobes have moved in under the Corbally link bridge. This is a really bad sign. I’ve stopped walking there now.
Sarsfield Credit Union have got the go-ahead to “renovate and refurbish†the former Limerick Savings Bank (The Stone Jug) on Glentworth Street. The building has been vacant for the past 18 months since Permanent TSB sold up and moved the branch out to Dooradoyle. Sarsfield Credit Union will be moving from their current location next to the Belltable on O Connell Street.
I walked past the building for the first time in a good while recently and couldn’t help but notice how poorly the site has been maintained. Its strewn with rubbish, weeds and other vegetation are growing all over the place and there’s a fair amount of graffiti smeared across the facade! The steps in front also seem to have become the new hangout for the local Goth freak show!:rolleyes:
Its pretty embarrassing to see one of the city’s most interesting and unique buildings in such a state. Indeed the area immediately surrounding the Stone Jug is an absolute joke, the pavement is in bits and yet another of the ESB’s elegant corner poles, heavily laden with overhead wires totally detracts from the character of the building!:mad:
I really cant understand why they didn’t complete the public realm improvements down to the Catherine Street junction as part of the Baker Place project, its only about 30 yards for God’s sake!
@Tuborg wrote:
Sarsfield Credit Union have got the go-ahead to “renovate and refurbish” the former Limerick Savings Bank (The Stone Jug) on Glentworth Street. The building has been vacant for the past 18 months since Permanent TSB sold up and moved the branch out to Dooradoyle. Sarsfield Credit Union will be moving from their current location next to the Belltable on O Connell Street.
I walked past the building for the first time in a good while recently and couldn’t help but notice how poorly the site has been maintained. Its strewn with rubbish, weeds and other vegetation are growing all over the place and there’s a fair amount of graffiti smeared across the facade! The steps in front also seem to have become the new hangout for the local Goth freak show!:rolleyes:
Its pretty embarrassing to see one of the city’s most interesting and unique buildings in such a state. Indeed the area immediately surrounding the Stone Jug is an absolute joke, the pavement is in bits and yet another of the ESB’s elegant corner poles, heavily laden with overhead wires totally detracts from the character of the building!:mad:
I really cant understand why they didn’t complete the public realm improvements down to the Catherine Street junction as part of the Baker Place project, its only about 30 yards for God’s sake!
In fairness , I have less issue with the ESB pole than I do with the development adjoining it that faces onto Baker Place and the Health Board additions including the Mansard roof and associated works …..also , whats wrong with the ‘Goth freak show ‘ ? Surely our inability to create decent public open space in this city is demonstrated by their presence. Would you prefer if the City Council put a railing around it ?
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