well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?
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@J.P wrote:
Tuborg, you say that the cimema is to go ahead in the new phase of the Coonagh Cross Centre. Everyone on the northside of the city has been lamenting the fact that the cinema has been axed from the original plans. I agree with your point that the cinema is badly needed on this side of the city. Why it has taken so long beats me.
Hi J.P, as part of the original application, the developers (Mulcair Well Drilling) got permission for a 10 screen cinema but decided not to go ahead with it. If you were to look back at at the initial plans from around 2002/3, you will notice that the complex has been scaled back fairly significantly since both architecturally and in terms of size! I think the developers realise that now is the time to get cracking on the cinema in an attempt to boost business at the centre. Although whether they will be able to fill the planned new mall is another question!
The biggest problem with the number of suburban shopping centres in Limerick is that retailers looking to enter the Limerick market are unsure as to where is the most suitable location for them. Most of these retailers opt for safe options like the Crescent which is why we end up with the same old names in the other centres. Indeed the planned extension of the crescent (the refusal is being appealed) further highlights the continued popularity of that complex.
@Fairy wrote:
Has any one out there with enough nouce to realise that a City Centered Cinema is an absolute MUST for a City the size of Limerick, surely such an investment could not fail. Youmg and Old are crying out for such a venue. I hear this cry from all City dwellers. not to mention the daily visitors who ask absentmindly , “can your direct me to the local cinema!”!!!!!? I read the trend is nowdays, for older people wanting to move back to the city (as is happening all over the world) for all the obvious reasons. Come on ‘someone fill this necessary void. .confused:
I’ve lost count of the number of suburban cinema proposals that have fallen by the wayside in recent years. Multiscreen cinemas were planned for Parkway Valley and the Childers road retail park before being dropped. There were also plans to add 5 more screens to the storm in Castletroy but this hasnt happened either.
As you say, its absolutely shambolic that the city centre is without a cinema, its a pretty basic requirement really and Limerick must be unique in Ireland (and probably Europe) in not having one.
In my opinion, a cinema in the vicinity of the opera centre would be an option worth pursuing, considering the increased levels of footfall the centre will generate. There are plenty of under-utilised sites on Michael Street that would be suitable for such a development.
Alternatively, a cinema could be accomodated in the proposed redevelopment of the Aurthurs Quay area!
Speaking of the devil!
Limerick’s Opera Centre to get go ahead
By Nick Rabbitts
CITY planners will give the multi-million euro Opera Centre the go ahead over the next week, the Limerick Chronicle has learned.
Mayor John Gilligan, Cllr Kevin Kiely and a planning official confirmed this morning that the planning application for €350m-rated project will be granted, subject to city manager Tom Mackey signing it off when he returns from holiday.
The development, originally mooted in 2005, looks to finally be approved, after redrawn plans which bring in four new buildings including The Granary, were lodged in May.
Cllr Kevin Kiely of the planning strategic policy committee, said they were informed of the intention to grant permission on Monday afternoon by city officials, who before going public, need to inform developers Regeneration Developments, the consortium which includes Kerry businessman Jerry O’Reilly.
The owner of the adjacent Granary and seven parties who made submissions to the plan will also be informed by the planners.
The Opera Centre, estimated to cost €350m, will be the Mid West’s largest shopping centre at more than 38,000 square meters.
Although it will not be complete for at least three years from the date builders move on site, suggested tenants include Marks & Spencer, who were recently denied permission to move into the Crescent Shopping Centre. The development will also include a food court and a pub.
I heard more updates on Henry street.
Five storey development on the corner of Henry/Glenthworth street. It got the go ahead too. My memory is blurr, but what’s actually their now? Has anyone seen the pictures of this proposed development. Look’s like more great news for this great city centre street 🙂
P.S there is more news on this but not much limerick-leader website, if you want to check it out.
@dave123 wrote:
I heard more updates on Henry street.
Five storey development on the corner of Henry/Glenthworth street. It got the go ahead too. My memory is blurr, but what’s actually their now? Has anyone seen the pictures of this proposed development. Look’s like more great news for this great city centre street 🙂
P.S there is more news on this but not much limerick-leader website, if you want to check it out.
If it’s the place i’m thinking of then there was an office furniture store there the last time i was up around that side of town, either that or it’s on the site of the youth centre on the corner opposite the entrance to the garda station.
Half-million euro boardwalk project for Clancy Strand (Limerick Independent)
Written by David Raleigh
Shannon Development has been provided with a Tourism Grant of more than half-a-million euro for a Treaty Stone Boardwalk, in Limerick.
Eoghan Prendergast, Shannon Development’s Regional Manager in Limerick City, warmly welcomed the announcement by the Minister for Tourism, Martin Cullen, of a €562,000 tourism grant for the construction of a board walk on Clancy Strand in Limerick City.
“We are delighted to have worked with Limerick City Council on this exciting project. The board walk from the Treaty Stone to the Curragour Falls will link these two great landmarks of Limerick City and make them accessible to all,†Mr Prendergast said.
“Clancy Strand will now become an amenity for the people of Limerick city, and tourists alike, to enjoy and make use of. Walkers, joggers, cyclists, fishermen, and canoeists, will be among those to benefit from this leisure amenity area,†Mr Prendergast added.
The Shannon Development spokesman went on to say that active leisure projects are extremely important for the riverside city of Limerick and added Shannon Development is currently in discussions with Limerick City Council regarding the development of further such projects for the city.
See previous post
Further down the riverfront is the new skate park. 😎
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That the Esturauy house development on the Dock road is approved? Its Consist of eight floors. It looks pretty decent. But this is defeniately not a high rise:rolleyes: But on topic, Has this started construction? I only gor the news from that site!
Any update on The new five storey development approved for Glenthworth/Henry street junction?
P.S When the Opera does go ahead, does this mean Limerick will lose one of it’s biggest night spots?:confused:
@dave123 wrote:
That the Esturauy house development on the Dock road is approved? Its Consist of eight floors. It looks pretty decent. But this is defeniately not a high rise:rolleyes: But on topic, Has this started construction? I only gor the news from that site!
Any update on The new five storey development approved for Glenthworth/Henry street junction?
P.S When the Opera does go ahead, does this mean Limerick will lose one of it’s biggest night spots?:confused:
Re: your P.S. While I am not the greatest fan of the Opera Centre and the eventual consequences of lhe loss of so many buildings, I must say IMO ,Trinity Rooms are not being civic minded in trying to hold such a massive investment in their ‘beloved Limerickto ransom for ‘what everyone knows as a postage stamp of land;. While I commend Trinity tfor employing 100 persons (50% of which I’m sure of are either casual or part-time) they now need to deal in fact. Fact is they have no claim to this land and my guess is, they are trying to milk the situ.
Aa for the poster’s enquiry, re concerns of closure of your favourite club, ask yourself, how do others ie, Nacy Blakes togerher with the restaurants, new club, recently opended in Upper Denmark St, cope ?, – they seem to survive very well with deliveries WITH NO SPE,CIAL GATEWAY TO THE DOOR.! I hope it will all sort itself out and you have many more years enjoying your favourite watering hole. PS, if its any consolation, I believe by the time the proposed Opera Cente is up and running, you will be advising your own childred as to the best venue to frequent when on a night out in Limerick.
that skate park is good, but the railings around it are revolting and contribute to the completely depressing and intimidating feel of that entire area. the strip of land from there down to the clarion hotel has to be one of the most wasted opportunities in limerick. if they just put a few more lamps in there, made sure every ground floor is occupied by a late opening restaurant of cafe with outdoor seating, added a few more riverside benches, and pedestrianized the whole area, it would become a great buzzing riverside area with the skating park adding to the buzz. then if they removed those horrific christmas lights from the bridge and made sure the railings of the bridge and the skate park had a bit of detail and character then there might be a pleasant view from the quay aswell.
@Fairy wrote:
Re: your P.S. While I am not the greatest fan of the Opera Centre and the eventual consequences of lhe loss of so many buildings, I must say IMO ,Trinity Rooms are not being civic minded in trying to hold such a massive investment in their ‘beloved Limerickto ransom for ‘what everyone knows as a postage stamp of land;. While I commend Trinity tfor employing 100 persons (50% of which I’m sure of are either casual or part-time) they now need to deal in fact. Fact is they have no claim to this land and my guess is, they are trying to milk the situ.
Civic minded? By helping an inner city shopping mall go ahead, that ultimately will just be a bigger more modern version of Arthur’s Quay – but ultimately, probably just as dingy? (just adding lots of modern glass entrances and so on does not magically allow these places to be any different from past developments that don’t stand the test of time, even one decade). Why is it civic minded to facilitate the loss of historic streetscape on Ellen Street (whatever about the buildings behind the facades, some of which may need replaced anyways)? Exchange street-scape character (that can be worked upon to have a suitable retail environment) for bland shopping mall?
It seems to me that it is the Opera Centre developers holding people to ransom, with the now vacant Patrick Street that they hold sway over. Give us what we want or you just have an ugly eyesore. However poor Patrick Street was/is, they should never have been allowed to have everything to be shut up until there was a concrete schedule for the Opera Centre (or any other development).
Just a few updates!
The Limerick Gaelic Grounds Development Committee have re-applied to install floodlighting at the Ennis Road stadium. Earlier this year the City Council shot down the original application over local residents fears of light spillage and the high level of illumination required, especially for hurling!
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Permission to erect 4 no. floodlighting masts, lighting to the external concourse area and carry out all associated site works.
Limerick Gaelic Grounds
Ennis Road
Limerick.Plans have also been lodged for a mixed use development on the site of the former Brannigans pub.
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Demolition of the following structures: an existing dwelling house at no.5 Fairview Avenue, an existing workshop at Fairview Avenue, an existing retail unit at no. 7A Greenhill Road known as Pakies, an existing public house at Blackboy Road known as Brannigans and an existing take away restaurant at Blackboy Road known as Stuffins. Permission to construct the following: two retail units, a replacement public house and a replacement take away restaurant all to Blackboy Road. Basement parking with vehicular access to link road between Greenhill Road and Blackboy Road, and 53 apartments addressing Fairview Avenue, Blackboy and Greenhill roads comprising of 11 no. one bedroom apartments, 3 no. three bed apartments and 39 no. two bed apartments and the carrying out of all associated site works.
Fairview Avenue, Blackboy Road,
Greenhill Road
LimerickMcInerney homes have further plans for their existing residential development off the South Circular Road.
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Permission to construct a 5 storey mixed development consisting of creche, office accommodations, 25 no. student apartments together with car parking, landscaping and associated site works.
Ashbourne Avenue
Limerick.The Hurlers Co-ownership have submitted revised plans for the old Esso station on the Dublin Road, an application for a larger development was turned down earlier in the year.
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Demolition of existing filling station/retail unit on the site and the construction of new building accommodating 1830sq. m. gross floor area and comprising 8 no. retail/commercial units (class 1 and class 2 use categories) at ground floor level, one floor of offices over, 53 no. surface parking spaces. The proposed development involves the carrying out of works adjoining the Hurlers public house(this is a protected structure) but no works to the structure itself. Permission is also sought for hard and soft landscaping, boundary treatment, signage and all associated site and development works.
The former Esso Garage & part of site adjoining Hurlers public house, Kilmurry, Castletroy
What about this ‘iconic’ landmark structure that was being discussed for Limerick. I believe there was a think-tank about it a while ago…any news?
@Tuborg wrote:
Just a few updates!
The Limerick Gaelic Grounds Development Committee have re-applied to install floodlighting at the Ennis Road stadium. Earlier this year the City Council shot down the original application over local residents fears of light spillage and the high level of illumination required, especially for hurling!
Plans have also been lodged for a mixed use development on the site of the former Brannigans pub.
McInerney homes have further plans for their existing residential development off the South Circular Road.
The Hurlers Co-ownership have submitted revised plans for the old Esso station on the Dublin Road, an application for a larger development was turned down earlier in the year.
Has anyone looked at the Esso / Hurlers application online? If so , can you make sense of the drawings? The Elevations seem difficult to understand
Most of the drawings seem to be stressing that the new development wont adversely affect the existing properties surrounding the site. This was where the original application fell down, it was ridiculously overscaled!
The new application has been scaled back significantly, its basically a 2 storey structure with ground floor retail and overhead office space tapering down to a single storey adjoining the Hurlers pub. The underground car park has been removed and replaced by a 53 space surface car park to the front of the site.
The Limerick Leader is reporting that a planning application for the proposed redevelopment of the Arthurs Quay area will be lodged in the next few weeks!
I wasnt aware that things were this advanced, there were supposedly many issues to sort out before an application could be made. There is a blatent error in the article though, Sarsfield Street will not “cease to exist” as they are reporting, only one side of the street will be demolished!:rolleyes:
Massive new city retail plan all ready
Anne Sheridan
A multi million Euro development which is set to surpass the scale of the €350 million opera centre is to be lodged with Limerick City Council within the coming weeks.
Developer Michael Tiernan who was behind the development of Arthurs Quay, is now seeking to demolish the retail centre, along with a number of buildings in Sarsfield Street and O Connell Street.
The plans, which were first brought to the attention of Labour Cllr. Joe Leddin during his term as mayor, will soon be unveiled to the public.
Dunnes Stores, Penneys, Burger King, Martins pub, Permanent TSB, Sarsfield house and Debenhams are all due to be knocked for the development of a major mixed retail development on the same site.
Luxury apartments and penthouse suites overlooking the River Shannon, as well as four interlinked green spaces, would also form part of the development.
Sarsfield Street would also cease to exist, as it would be swallowed up in the proposed development, and traffic from Henry Street would be diverted underground to re-emerge at Bank Place.
The current site of Debenhams on the corner of O Connell Street and Sarsfield Street would also form a new pedestrianised street, stretching down towards the River Shannon.
Existing businesses are expected to be accommodated in the new enterprise, a 2,000 unit underground car park will be provided and Arthurs Quay Park will be remodelled and incorporated into the development.
Councillors say the development will work in harmony with the opera centre, with Fine Gael Cllr. Jim Long describing the plans “bold, courageous but definitely required.â€
An architect’s impression of how the space could look was included in the Draft City Centre Strategy last year. Following the granting of planning permission for the revised opera centre, the Limerick Leader understands that city planners are now ready to move on to the final City Centre Strategy, which could be publicised within the coming weeks.
Cllr. Leddin said that if Mr Tiernans development is given the green light by City Hall, the project will give a much needed boost to the local construction industry and help reverse the “doughnut effect†whereby suburban shopping centres have succeeded in gaining trade from city retailers.
“What we’ve got to face up to as a modern city is that if we want to attract high fashion retailers we have got to provide the square footage for these retailers. Units in Cruises Street are quite small and retailers just couldn’t afford the rent given their turnover. Now we have Bedford Row providing much larger space for retailers,†said Cllr. Leddin. He said the plans are “extremely impressive and would be a win-win situation for the city.â€
However, the project attracted criticism from one local architectural firm last October. O’Connor & Shanahan Architects of O Connell Street, presented a radical alternative to the proposal to the city planners last year and asked that it be considered.
Robert Shanahan pointed out that to the planners that this space was developed as part of a master plan for the area only 16 years ago. Independent Cllr. Kathleen Leddin has also put forward a motion for Arthurs Quay to be developed as a public park, which will be discussed at the City Council’s next strategic environmental meeting in October.
Meanwhile, a spokesperson for the opera centre said retailers who will be included in their development may be announced late next month. The company behind the project, Regeneration Developments, will also be exhibiting at the British Council of Shopping Centres conference in Liverpool in November to attract further international retailers.
© Limerick Leader
Hi All,
just joined, great site. I have a particular interest in Limerick city and its development. Fab place to live. Advice on the best way to utilise this site considering this would be appreciated.ESTUARY QUARTER (Howard Holdings)
Staus: In Planning
Completion Date:Spring 2010
Value: €22.5 million / £18m
Website: http://www.estuaryquarter.ieProject Details
Estuary Quarter will be a centrally located 8-storey building designed by award winning architects Scott Tallon Walker.The building comprises two ground floor retail / showroom units extending to 818 sq.m. The retail / showroom units benefit from a set down area to the front allowing ease of access from the busy Dock Road. The upper floors of the development will incorporate 5,267 sq.m of state-of-the-art sustainable office space. The development benefits further from a 34 space basement car park.
I like the scale of the big plan for the city centre, but if the planners are reading this, here’s a suggestion:
Limerick this year didn’t have a summer, it rained every day. Same last year. When designing buildings for these streets, incorporate arcades in them, like you see in a lot of Italian cities. This will provide shelter from the rain where people can sit and enjoy their lunch while also smoking a cigarette if they want to. Since every eatery in the country is now putting flimsy tables and chairs in the street and even flimsier awnings over people in a vain attempt to keep them dry, why not incorporate this feature into these new city centre streets to account for a rather big change in the habits of Irish people in recent years. If there’s any place that needs arcades like this, it is Ireland.
That estuary quarter would at least not be too obtrusive if they got rid of the two top floors. But really, it’s just an ugly box.
Again the dodgy blue skies and bright pictures. That part of the Dock Road is always in shadow – even on the few occasions Limerick gets sunshine. They should make it that these mock-up photos have to be realistic. I bet the building will look even worse in real life and with even one year’s Dock Road traffic dirt (the existing buildings are getting blacker up to the 4th floor or so). The brick of the existing adjoining buildings does actually lessen the effect of that and the general gloom of the area. Boring as it might be, this Estuary building would probably be better off incorporating some similar design elements.
1. the fact that it’s two storeys higher is the only interesting thing about it.
2. the neighbouring buildings, and the buildings in this whole area, are some of the grisliest and depressing developments i’ve ever seen in my short life.
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