well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?
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@KeepAnEyeOnBob wrote:
I did notice the monstrosity crammed in between the Georgian terraces opposite the old Co. Co. offices has been let by now. It had been vacant since construction quite a number of months ago.
I was thinking about this site the other day and to my surprise as I passed it tonight, I see it’s been let.
Foodfair, a newsagents is opening there.
Not the best tenant but at least it’s something.There is a rumour that is trying to do the rounds that the Parkway Valley project is stalling as the developer couldn’t confirm an anchor tenant and the banks were some what unsettled by this.
It’s on the Limerick Blogger but it could just be a wind up what with so many off for the builders holidays.
Corner Thomas / Catherine Street
The Limerick Post has an article on the seven storey office facility to open in September on Thomas / Catherine Street. Its finishing coincides well with the on-going pedestrian work of the streets which is due to be finished in December.
Tuborg, I thought I would post this again this time from the Limerick Leader (24 June 2008).
An Bord Pleanala turns down Limerick city centre development
A PROPOSAL to redevelop two buildings on Catherine Street, near the junction with Thomas Street, has been turned down by An Bord Pleanala.
The developers had applied for planning permission to build a five-storey commercial and residential building on 72-74 Catherine Street comprising a cafe/bar, retail unit and 10 apartments.
They had proposed the demolition of number 72 completely and retaining of the façade of number 73.
The plans were initially given the go-ahead by Limerick City Council, but an appeal was lodged with the planning board by Padraig Frawley, owner of the nearby AuBars on 49 Thomas street.
In her ruling, the Bord Pleanala inspector found that the development would adversely affect the character of the Limerick City Centre Architectural Conservation Area.
The An Bord Pleanala inspector also found that the proposal would adversely affect 49-50 Thomas Street because of the loss of light and also by appearing “visually overbearing”.
The An Bord Pleanala inspector found that the proposal would adversely affect 49-50 Thomas Street because of the loss of light. Sounds pretty reasonable to me. That is until I passed 49-50 Thomas Street (AuBars) on a sunny day recently.
The front façade of the bar bistro is shaded by black awnings / canopies. Black being the predominant colour of the painted walls that the windows seemed to me to be tinted like sun glasses with some lights switched on inside. Is somebody taking the piss here! :confused:
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@CologneMike wrote:
Corner Thomas / Catherine Street
The Limerick Post has an article on the seven storey office facility to open in September on Thomas / Catherine Street. Its finishing coincides well with the on-going pedestrian work of the streets which is due to be finished in December.
I walked past that building today and was surprised to find that the scaffolding had come down, pretty impressive progress considering they only broke ground on this site last December. Glad to see they have also ditched the beige roofline treatment that appeared in earlier plans.:)
Thomas Street is really coming along nicely, permission has also now been granted for a new cafe bar literally just a couple of metres away from the above development.
08221
Permission is sought from Limerick City Council for the construction of a four storey building, consisting of a Cafe Bar and Delicatessen to ground and first floor and commercial Space to second and third floor. The structure will also incorporate a plant room area to the roof.
42 Thomas Street, Limerick
@CologneMike wrote:
The An Bord Pleanala inspector found that the proposal would adversely affect 49-50 Thomas Street because of the loss of light. Sounds pretty reasonable to me. That is until I passed 49-50 Thomas Street (AuBars) on a sunny day recently.
The front façade of the bar bistro is shaded by black awnings / canopies. Black being the predominant colour of the painted walls that the windows seemed to me to be tinted like sun glasses with some lights switched on inside. Is somebody taking the piss here! :confused:
That building is actually a real mess, originally it was a simple red brick georgian townhouse. However at some stage over the last 20 years it was given a rendered finish and its timber sash windows were replaced with some nice plastic ones.:mad:
Apart from the hideousness of these windows and the general drabness of the street frontage, they are also contrary to the City Councils own strategy of encouraging live frontages and the improvement of shopfronts especially on newly pedestrianised Streets.
Also, Id love to know what the story is with those ridiculous imitation decorative mouldings (not sure of the correct term) over the first floor windows. If you look at them a little more closely, you’ll see that they are actually wooden and were probably purchased at a local home improvement store!:rolleyes: This is definitely a building suffering from a serious identity crisis!
Just a quick update on the opera centre.
August 28th has now been set as the provisional deadline for a decision on the application after Regeneration Developments submitted the requested further information last week.
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Planning permission for the development of a new multi storey shopping centre with street mall, retail, underground car parking and food hall to provide 38,541 sq m of new mixed use retail/services accommodation comprising of 2 retail anchors and 38 no. ancillary retail/service units in Limerick City Centre at this site within the sector defined by Bank Place to the north, Rutland Street/Patrick Street to the west, Ellen Street to the south and Michael Street to the east, incorporating the old Town Hall and the Granary, both protected structures.
The proposed development will provide retail accommodation at basement levels, ground floor, first floor and two upper levels. The emphasis in the retail provision will be upon higher order comparison retail facilities and services including café and restaurant and food court facilities at second floor mezzanine.
The development will include:
- Refurbishment and modification of no.4 Patrick Street (also known as the Catherine Hayes building) which will remain independent from the mall of the new scheme to be used as a museum/ civic amenity.
- Modification of no.5 Rutland Street and façade retention with new building shell at no.4 Rutland Street, both will remain independent from the mall of the new scheme.
- Modification of the Town Hall (protected structure) including demolition of modern building extensions and integration into the new scheme.
- Modification of the Granary (protected structure) including demolition of modern building and integration into new scheme.
- Modifications at ground level with upper façade retention of no’s 8 and 9 Rutland Street and 1,2,3 & 5 Patrick Street.
- Demolition of no’s 6 and 7 Rutland Street, no’s 6 & 8 Patrick Street, no’s 3,4,5,6,7,8,9 & 9b Ellen Street, Euro surf buildings on Ellen Street, Workspace building on Michael Street and Cahill May Roberts factory buildings on Bank Place.
- Incorporation of basement car parking facilities and servicing, eliminating the permitted high-level bridge.
- Within the site, Ellen Street will be rebuilt with a 2m setback (northwards) from the existing building line to facilitate widened pedestrian areas and traffic circulation on the Inner Orbital Route.
- All associated site development works and provision of services.
Boschurch Ltd. C/O Select Hotels Ireland
Limerick City Council 04584
Development Description:
1. Change of use from derelict dwelling house and former hostel premises to hotel and health spa and all associated facilities.
2. Demolish existing derelict single storey clay brick shed.
3. Demolish and relocate existing derelict clay brick garden wall/conservatory and limestone steps and reinstate gardens:
4. Construct new five storey over basement structure linked to the existing derelict 2 storey over basement dwelling house on Barrington St. to accommodate car parking, restaurant, bedrooms and associated facilities:
5. Construct new external stairs from new basement area to street level and modify existing railings, gates and limestone plinth on Barrington Street.
6. Construct new external stairs from existing basement lightwell area and modify existing railings, gates and limestone plinth on Barrington Street:
7. Form new window ope fit new window and sill on the first floor of No. 1 Pery Square Barrington Street elevation:
8. All related ancillary works. This application is also for a revision of previously granted permission No. P03/434.
This is a Protected Structure.
Development Address:
1 Pery Square and 9 Barrington Street,
Limerick.Above is an image of the site taken 12 months ago.
Last month they were taking down the scaffolding as I took these pictures. The Hotel appears to be spread over four buildings. They have rebuilt a two and a single storey building as was originally there. A peep through one of the open windows of number 1 Pery Square, gives them impression of an interior restoration job was carried out.
I’m sure in the meantime that the hoarding is also down, any up to date images of the finished product?
Thank you Tuborg – don’t know what we do without you on this site. Please keep us posted, you seem to have info none of us have, (maybe we like most are just lazy) or maybe we are all too dependent on you to keep us up-dated . Your facts and insight is greatly appreciated.
Fairy.
Seems they’ve done fairly well at Pery Square, but one wonders why the new building is a modern design at all – it’s so plain and boring and a bit ugly. With it being brick, it’d surely have been better off copying the style of the adjacent Georgian buildings?
FYI..tonight on CH4 at 9pm..
Kevin McCloud And the Big Town Plan sees regeneration on a huge scale in Castleford
see also the CH4 website…maybe some interesting lessons/ideas for Limerick ?..Also , drove up Sarsfield st yesterday… admittedly it was raining , but this street as a gateway into a city – is a sad sight to behold !..
@KeepAnEyeOnBob wrote:
Seems they’ve done fairly well at Pery Square, but one wonders why the new building is a modern design at all – it’s so plain and boring and a bit ugly. With it being brick, it’d surely have been better off copying the style of the adjacent Georgian buildings?
I had concerns about how this was going to turn out, I suppose it was almost asking too much for an acceptable design solution to be found. I dont really think Georgian pastiche is the answer here, it would just end up looking silly, especially sitting next to the impressive Tontine terrace.
The height and scale of the new build was always going to be a hugely important issue here and unfortunately that ugly white box on the roof does it no favours. Theres also too many windows on the Barrington Street elevation which I think detracts from the buildings either side. In my opinion anyway (the rest of ye might disagree), a blank facade would be a better solution here as an infill frontage between two Georgian houses.
@Griff wrote:
Also , drove up Sarsfield st yesterday… admittedly it was raining , but this street as a gateway into a city – is a sad sight to behold !..
You’re spot on there. That makes two prominent gateways into the city centre (Rutland St/Patrick St being the other) that are in an exceptionally sorry state. It just highlights the need for urgency in finding a solution to the opera centre impasse and also that we need to push on quickly with the proposed rejuvenation plan for the Aurthurs Quay area.
It still amazes me that Arthurs Quay Park ( which is more popular than ever since the railings came down ) is to be built upon without any public backlash. This forum seems to be resigned to the fact.
Buildings PREVIOUSLY within the Architectural Conservation Area to be demolished to make room for the Opera Centre …..
‘ Any development is good development ‘ seems to be Limerick City Councils motto
@Dreamstate wrote:
It still amazes me that Arthurs Quay Park ( which is more popular than ever since the railings came down ) is to be built upon without any public backlash. This forum seems to be resigned to the fact.
Buildings PREVIOUSLY within the Architectural Conservation Area to be demolished to make room for the Opera Centre …..
‘ Any development is good development ‘ seems to be Limerick City Councils motto
The plans are still very far from any sense of completion but quite a few councillors have spoken out against them. Personally i think it’s be shame to lose any parkland, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t examine what’s being suggested.
From what i’ve seen the plan is to move the park to the current site of Sarsfield house, and knock the wall surrounding the potato market.
@Dreamstate wrote:
It still amazes me that Arthurs Quay Park ( which is more popular than ever since the railings came down ) is to be built upon without any public backlash. This forum seems to be resigned to the fact.
Jer Cahill captured this new found popularity of the “de-railed†Arthur’s Quay Park from May of this year. The foundations seem to be converted into floral boxes. See base of image. Though the one-way, three-lane wide, passing roadway, keeps it cut-off from the city centre.
@CologneMike wrote:
Jer Cahill captured this new found popularity of the “de-railed†Arthur’s Quay Park from May of this year. The foundations seem to be converted into floral boxes. See base of image. Though the one-way, three-lane wide, passing roadway, keeps it cut-off from the city centre.
Yeah, they’ve used the base of the railings for flower beds all the way round. It foes make it far nicer.
The park itself has had it’s fitting repainted but it’s still a fairly empty space imo. I wouldn’t like to see any parkland removed, but Arthur’s Quay park will always struggle while Dunnes and roches keep Liddy street and the park front area desolate.
Former Limerick County Council Buildings
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Permission for the alteration to protected structures No. 83 and 84 O’Connell St. Limerick. Limerick City Council Ref: = RPS256 (No’s. 78-83 O’Connell Street) and RPS257 (No. 84).
The alterations proposed are the sub-division of the buildings into office and ancillary accommodation, addition of passenger lifts to each building, opening up of new door opes in existing walls, reinstatement of existing door opes, removal of selected partitions erected in the twentieth century, new sliding timber sash windows to rear of building, the removal of selected existing service and cable runs through the building and the addition of new service runs, fixtures and fittings.
Permission is also sought for the change of use of the Basement Level of No.’s 81 to 84 O’Connell Street from offices to restaurant usage with alterations to the existing layout. Permission is also sought for the change of use of the front room on the ground floor at No. 84 for use a coffee shop and also for access to the basement restaurant proposed
A few images of the WIP at the former Limerick County Council buildings on O’Connell Street. Two new doorways opened up in the front. They appeared to have removed building extensions to the rear, thus the plaster work to the cover the scars? Will this set a precedent for future Georgian restorations?
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