Visionary Public Transport System for Dublin
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- July 27, 2010 at 10:59 am #813059
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Inactive@DouglasHyde wrote:
Dublin’s streets are not suitable for a bus based transport system.
Not one that wull get people out of their cars.
Come into reality folks.That’s a ridiculous thing to say, it’s about time the BRT system is properly debated.
Dublin is a perfect city for BRT as illustrated in the maps on this thread.
What is missing is the investment and commitment, the main problem is the vested interests (and I mean this has to be delivered by the RPA or similar agency NOT Dublin Bus)Metro North will cost Billions, and serve only a few bits of Dublin.
BRT system for the entire city would cost less and serve everybody in the City.
Having a Public Transport System that is efficient comfortable and up to European City standards while connecting the whole city together is the ONLY way to get people to shift from cars. Its simply not possable to do this withough buses.July 27, 2010 at 4:42 pm #813060Anonymous
InactiveBRT is also way worse for the environment than light rail.
July 27, 2010 at 7:47 pm #813061admin
KeymasterVery impressed with the work that went into this plan; it is easily the most thoroughly researched graduate plan I have ever seen. The authors have mapped out the entire city and found some very good nuggets from their commuter profiling.
Not the solution in isolation by a long way but a very useful piece of work in an area that does not get enough attention given the prevailing densities over the vast bulk of Dublin.
This plan should be looked at in great detail by whoever acquires Dublin Bus.July 27, 2010 at 10:43 pm #813062Anonymous
Inactive@Bago wrote:
Greek.
Quote from his CV:
Half Greek, half German and raised in Germany’s industrial heartland, the Ruhr-Valley Region.
Sounds more German to me
July 28, 2010 at 5:50 am #813063Anonymous
Inactive@ac1976 wrote:
That’s a ridiculous thing to say, it’s about time the BRT system is properly debated.
Dublin is a perfect city for BRT as illustrated in the maps on this thread.
What is missing is the investment and commitment, the main problem is the vested interests (and I mean this has to be delivered by the RPA or similar agency NOT Dublin Bus)Metro North will cost Billions, and serve only a few bits of Dublin.
BRT system for the entire city would cost less and serve everybody in the City.
Having a Public Transport System that is efficient comfortable and up to European City standards while connecting the whole city together is the ONLY way to get people to shift from cars. Its simply not possable to do this withough buses.Your posts entertaining fantasy.
Author non Dublin. Explains all.
No use serving everybody if they won’t use it.
Car drivers will not use buses.
BRT in Dublin streetscape, fantasy tosh.
Will not happen.
End of.July 28, 2010 at 7:03 am #813064admin
KeymasterNo use serving everybody if they won’t use it.
I’d hardle call annual 135m passenger bus journeys for Dublin Bus in 2008 a lack of use. Where service levels have increased so too have passnger numbers; if the 46A QBC can be a success it can work anywhere in Dublin.
Car drivers will not use buses.
That assumes that congestion levels do not increase, parking levels increase and parking prices stay static or fall. If bus services were upgraded in tandem with some affordable rail improvements; the so called car drivers that you speak of would consider their options provided they live and work within areas of a sufficient scale. If people choose to live in Virginia and Work in Rathcoole then the public transport system owes them nothing.
BRT in Dublin streetscape, fantasy tosh.
Add the 95m passengers carried by Bus Eirrean to the 135m carried by DB and you have a substantial number; denying the existing usage is uninformed. Even with an extensive tube network that carries 1.1bn passengers per year this impressive statistic is dwarfed by the 6.1m passengers per day that travel by bus i.e. 2.2bn or twice as many bus journeys as tube journeys in London.
July 28, 2010 at 10:04 am #813065Anonymous
Inactive@PVC King wrote:
I’d hardle call annual 135m passenger bus journeys for Dublin Bus in 2008 a lack of use. Where service levels have increased so too have passnger numbers; if the 46A QBC can be a success it can work anywhere in Dublin.
That assumes that congestion levels do not increase, parking levels increase and parking prices stay static or fall. If bus services were upgraded in tandem with some affordable rail improvements; the so called car drivers that you speak of would consider their options provided they live and work within areas of a sufficient scale. If people choose to live in Virginia and Work in Rathcoole then the public transport system owes them nothing.
Add the 95m passengers carried by Bus Eirrean to the 135m carried by DB and you have a substantial number; denying the existing usage is uninformed. Even with an extensive tube network that carries 1.1bn passengers per year this impressive statistic is dwarfed by the 6.1m passengers per day that travel by bus i.e. 2.2bn or twice as many bus journeys as tube journeys in London.
The fact that this fiscal year was a commendatory one for the bus company but auto pipe lining stream implementation negatives made for a bubble unexpected in the technical climate.. During the preceding fiscal year, the department was appropriated the second largest revenue increase in recent history. Furthermore, it was demonstrated to the citizens of this state that supplementary and elevated quality services could be delivered through the additional programs that were part of the previously mandated legislative initiative. There were new programs implemented that provided prominent visibility as well as serving the purpose of assisting the populace in numerous programmatic needs.
Crush loading was a fiduciary integral constraint.July 28, 2010 at 7:09 pm #813066admin
Keymaster@ac1976 wrote:
I came accross this site by chance, it’s a project done as part of a masters degree in NCAD and it’s absolutely facinating.
http://www.venetikidis.com/aris/Dublin-Transport_MA.html
A new vision for public transport based on what we have, what is being built and some common sense and good international proactice. The result really is quite amazing.
There are some maps which look exactly like maps of transport you might find on the continent! It really is facinating to see how our public transport might be if we were a continental European city!
Maybe one day?….
Frank McDonald wrote recently about Busways, which are like tramways without rails, and this is based on this concept but look what it can deliver! When you see the maps it really does impress.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2010/0527/1224271228154.html
I wouldn’t be surprised if Frank got his inspirition for that article from this very project!The last post above really loses the focus of the discussion
July 28, 2010 at 7:52 pm #813067Anonymous
InactiveNot to mention being bollox
July 29, 2010 at 9:20 am #813068Anonymous
InactiveApologies fvcking, glancing at a few of your frevious posts I got the impression you were fluent in gibberish.
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