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  • #750211
    Paul Clerkin
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    Yeah my understandment of the site is that the encampment is the site not the area being excavated across the street.

    #750212
    cokedrinker
    Participant

    Yep it is the encampment, im using the site to design my own skyscraper for my final year project… Was down checking it out around november and stalled when i came across the mobiles. Spotted a gap in the barriers and plucked up the courage to move in and take photos and video footage with my new k800i and a dvcam, when some wee lad runs out of a caravan asking wtf i was doing. I told him i was a student and i was just taking photos for my class when i noticed he had a bloody STANLEY in his hand lol. I was sure he was after my equipment but he was cool when he realised i was a student…we had a quick chat about U2 and the tower and i got to hell outta there.

    Anyway the site appears unbelievable narrow when you’re physically standing in the middle of it, I found it hard to imagine a 120m skyscraper going on it, and it looks like im going to be putting a 240m one on it.

    #750213
    paul h
    Participant

    Any pics you could share cokedrinker??!!

    #750214
    cokedrinker
    Participant

    Heres a couple taken within the site. Keep in mind the building line is 8m from the quay wall along the long end.

    #750215
    mcdanish
    Participant

    Pretty sure thats not the site, is it not the site next door that is currently being readied?
    A lot of mystery regarding this development.Not much info in the public domain

    #750216
    Rusty Cogs
    Participant

    Well the location of the tower is at Britain Quay which is pictured above. The current construction is going on with an entrance from Benson St. Maybe I’m wrong but it would seem strange to build the foundations, car parks of a huge site with out even the plans for the towers agreed upon, let alone tendered out ?

    #750217
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Ok so if the U2 tower is going in on the smaller site, anyone any idea of what they’re planning for the much larger adjacent site ! ?

    The Britain Quay site isn’t quite as small as i thought …

    #750218
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    @mcdanish wrote:

    Pretty sure thats not the site, is it not the site next door that is currently being readied?
    A lot of mystery regarding this development.Not much info in the public domain

    No that is the U2 site. The other site belonged to Dunloe for a time.

    #750219
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    @Peter FitzPatrick wrote:

    The green box was the site for the Dunloe tower
    http://ireland.archiseek.com/news/2000/000008.htm
    I’ve no idea what’s happening there now

    Results for Dunloe:
    https://archiseek.com/search/search.php?template_demo=&site=&path=&result_page=search.php&query_string=dunloe&search.x=0&search.y=0

    The red site is the U2 site.
    Look at the competition entries if you’re not sure…
    http://ireland.archiseek.com/unbuilt_ireland/dublin/u2_tower/index.html

    #750220
    shadow
    Participant

    It would seem sensible to join the two sites establish a new street and design two reasonable sites as opposed to the elephant and the ant.

    #750221
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    thanks for links Paul, thats definitely the site so…
    strange the level of activity on the adjoining site, must do some digging for more info… any members that know the story, please enlighten us !

    #750222
    jdivision
    Participant

    As far as i know Liam Carroll following his acquisition of Dunloe sought and received planning permission for a 120 metre high tower next to the U2 tower.

    #750223
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    What is the validity period for S25 permissions?

    #750224
    mcdanish
    Participant

    Ok so its a very small site.I would have thought that it would be at least cleared and cordoned off.I would be very surprised if the U2 Tower project gets up and running this year in its current state.

    #750225
    jdivision
    Participant

    Can’t find the details of the application but some detail buried in here
    http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2005/11/13/story9502.asp

    #750226
    Morlan
    Participant

    The Dublin Docklands Development Authority (DDDA) has been accused of being “breathtaking in its arrogance” by assuming that its plans for the U2 tower in the docklands should take precedence over a higher tower planned by developer Liam Carroll, which already has planning permission.

    That’s the first I’ve ever heard of a second tower, with PP. Anyone any more details?

    #750227
    jdivision
    Participant

    Was stated by Fay in the letter, been trying to find out more details myself

    #750228
    cokedrinker
    Participant

    Peter Fitz, yep, it doesn’t look so small now when i look at it… however back then i was going along with the original site boundaries, in which the northern boundary of the site was in line with the northern boundary of the adjacent site, it felt really tiny, especially when i imagined the building line 8m from the eastern quay wall. This site is actually a comparable size to trump tower nyc, high cliff hong kong…which surprised me alot.

    OK, Heres part of a cad map i picked up from DDDA about 3 months ago… It shows the U2 tower in its NEW position, right up against the north quay wall… with the proposed road/bridge dividing the site. It also shows footprints for buildings on the large adjacent site which I have no knowledge of (i didnt take time to research this development as ill make my own proposals here too… I did however at one early stage believe there was to be some sort of tower somewhere on this site??pretty sure i came across images of it here?)

    #750229
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @cokedrinker wrote:

    Peter Fitz, yep, it doesn’t look so small now when i look at it… however back then i was going along with the original site boundaries, in which the northern boundary of the site was in line with the northern boundary of the adjacent site, it felt really tiny, especially when i imagined the building line 8m from the eastern quay wall. This site is actually a comparable size to trump tower nyc, high cliff hong kong…which surprised me alot.

    OK, Heres part of a cad map i picked up from DDDA about 3 months ago… It shows the U2 tower in its NEW position, right up against the north quay wall… with the proposed road/bridge dividing the site. It also shows footprints for buildings on the large adjacent site which I have no knowledge of (i didnt take time to research this development as ill make my own proposals here too… I did however at one early stage believe there was to be some sort of tower somewhere on this site??pretty sure i came across images of it here?)

    It is actually Britan Quay with a sliver of John Rodge to the north.

    I remember the SBP piece at the time and I like everyone else am in the dark on the status of the Liam Carroll permission. My take on this is that the site is suitable for a tall building but that the Dunloe permission is now dated. Therefore LC should go back for a new permission which should be judged on quality and its legibility in relation to the proposed U2 tower.

    #750230
    cokedrinker
    Participant

    @shadow wrote:

    It would seem sensible to join the two sites establish a new street and design two reasonable sites as opposed to the elephant and the ant.

    Don’t think i’d agree… I think the U2 site is one of the more attractive sites i’ve come across… nice, long, slender geometry. Its almost begging to stretch across and form the pedestrian connection to the Point Village!! 😉 (On the DDDA map i have, there is proposed, a 16m wide pedestrian only street of the PV – which begins directly across the river from the u2 tower, and runs to Sheriff street at the north. The LUAS stop will be midway up this new street. You can make out where the street would start on Peter Fitzs image above… directly to the right of the 4 pitched roof building)

    Anyway, does nobody at all know the nature of the buildings on the larger site??? Heading home for a few days and i may take a trip to the big city itself. Do you think the builders on site would be willing to divulge any information about the grand plan for the area?

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