Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller
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- January 31, 2009 at 6:11 pm #750731
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Participant@spoil_sport wrote:
“The slave trade has operated in the middle east for centuries. Its part of their culture…”
And that makes it ok? Britain could claim the slave trade was part of its culture for centuries too.“You are a slave to corporations”
That’s hippie speak if ever I heard it… Of course the “corporations” are in control, you say that like you are trying to teach us something, like you are the first person to discover it, like you have just figured out all for yourself that santa isn’t real and your trying to convince all the grown ups of the huge conspiracy. Of course the corporations are in control, if they wern’t who would be? Its a simple concept called hierarchy, check it out, its been around for some time now. The historical equilivent is religion, it told people how to live, how to be better people, what they should wear, what they can and can’t say. It is the basic organising principal of society, it’s what kept society together, its what led them into wars against other variations of the same theme. And yes unfortunately, some people are better than others, some people are faster, some are smarter, there is, by natural selection, no such thing as equality. But in the western world, religion is redundant (massive generalisation, granted) so someone has to take control; the corporations tell me what is cool to wear, what is cool to say, what is cool to have or have-not. OK, so we take down the corporations, then what?But the relevance of all this to the U2 tower being made taller is?
Bravo!!
January 31, 2009 at 6:28 pm #750732fergalr
ParticipantHas Archiseek been taken over by Indymedia..? :confused:
January 31, 2009 at 9:52 pm #750733hutton
ParticipantFebruary 9, 2009 at 1:59 pm #750734MD199
ParticipantI wouldn’t be surprised if this was the subject of another tribunal, along with Landsdowne Road. Up until now, there has not been anyone willing to call up the relevant authorities on the blatant conflicts of interest on both these projects in the appointment of the advisors and the preferred bidders. I reckon now that there is little or no good reason for people to try and stay on the “good” side of these “authorities” that people will start to question the decisions made. Clear and unambiguous conflicts existed in both cases, and would have been questionable at the very least under European Competition laws. The problem was that no one wanted to be the whistle blower. Now that the bid fees invovled could solve some issues for some of the unsuccessful bidders (circa €1-2m per bid), they might pursue them for this.
I personally would encourage an enquiry into the practices of the DDDA. They were established as an authority to serve the people of Dublin and in particular the environs of the Docklands. Whilst there has been great development in the area made possible by the establishment of the DDDA and the masterplan model in place, there have been questionable levels of competance shown in the delivery of the design competitions run, and in the bending of their own rules in order to suit their own purposes (Liam Carroll’s planning that was recently ruled to be outside the DDDA’s authority to grant).February 10, 2009 at 10:31 am #750735jdivision
ParticipantDDDA travel expenses and board fees cost €530,000
Former Anglo Irish Bank executives among those to benefit
The Dublin Docklands Development Authority (DDDA) racked up more than €530,000 on travel expenses for executives, board members and staff, together with fees for board members, between 2006 and 2008.http://www.tribune.ie/business/article/2009/feb/08/ddda-travel-expenses-and-board-fees-cost-530000/
February 17, 2009 at 11:22 am #750736MD199
ParticipantAt the end of that article it says the DDDA never received any government funding. Whilst this is true, it has received the proceeds of the sale of what are esentially state assets in the form of land. It also acquired a stock of social and affordable housing, which it no doubt received some remuneration for when selling (the affordable elements at least). Not only this though, but they are a public body and the planning authority for the area, and in the case of the glass bottle site, they reinvested money’s which were gathered through the sale of state property etc, in a partnership on the glass bottle site. This is a clear conflict, and should be outside their remit and ability. Its like allowing a developer to by a planning authority and basically build what he likes. It completely blurs the lines between private commerce and governance/regulation.
November 3, 2010 at 1:44 pm #750737MD199
Participant@johnny21 wrote:
Which proposal is better??? The original or recent proposal??? Found a render of original proposal…..looks great but so does the norman foster proposal!!! Which would you pick???:confused:
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I have some great CGI’s of one of the bids, if anyone’s interested?
November 3, 2010 at 2:16 pm #750738Paul Clerkin
KeymasterGo on, post them
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