U2 studio entries
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a skyscraper with trees on top in “ireland”
that’s a first.a partly slanted/leaning skyscraper in “ireland”
that’s a first.the same could be said for the height. if they do build it to the 70m (ish) height, it will be taller than any of the other buildings we have in ireland right now. that too is a first.
these things all mean it is different. there is no other building similar to the one proposed in ireland to my knowledge.
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In response to to MOC in Frankfurt and Dogson
Fire2,
…YES all these questions should be answerable through the Freedom of Info Act as the DDDA are a government sponsored body….Hopefully some journalist out there will check it out and let us all know what has happened!(personally I think, at this stage since the competition seems to be a bit of a joke, The Glendalough entry should also be debated !)
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I designed it with the help of a few dead monks.
(I wasn’t related to them or anything like that, I just took some inspiration from them)Text goes here ….if ye look up the quays toward Tara Street, you’ll see seven towers with pyramidal type roofs as well, which were just recently added to the city scape.
Besides, I think the winning entry is rather cumbersome and a hotch potch of recent styles. The poor old roof garden will be rather battered too in such a windswept area.
I hope the architects know their plants and planting too as well as their architecture.Me …I would have definitely gone with the Lewis Hickey design…..but build it taller too. What a great landmark it might have been for Dublin, very striking indeed.
i am aware of one george’s quay plaza. it has rectangular/square towers with pyramids on top. it has no roof garden and no twisted/leaning effect. it is also smaller than the proposed u2 tower, so in my opinion it is different. it is in no way the exact same as what we have now! i like it, some don’t but if we all had the same opinion on this topic there would be no point in having this discussion forum. i am not trying to offend anyone.
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oh and by the way… yes they could have done better but they also could have done worse.
some of the other entries are fantastic looking. you never know it could be the start to having some taller buildings and lots of them in this area. the proposed tower looks taller than any of the other buildings we have at present. i am not counting the spire/chimneys as these are not buildings.
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I agree……..in that it is the discussion that prevails from such events which is valuable. It’s a shame the chaps in DDDA didn’t have a bit of think before they launched this “thing”. But Ok 500 or more egocentric souls put pen to paper and in that it almost authenticates the competition. If architects had been at all bothered by the rules then clearly this could have been reflected in A: number of entries and the B: Questions. BUT this does not excuse the Authorities (notice the big A) who have a clear responsibility to lead the merry troupe in a legal and clear pathway, especially AFTER all submissions have been submitted. This is their elected responsibility be it as competition Organisers or Jury.
As was said before there is some doubt this pathway was taken and therefore requires examination.
As to differences, shapes, height, tress and twists……………well I’ve always maintain that most structures still carry Gustav Semper’s notion of the Caribbean hut. Its shelter still, but in a different “styleâ€; and not particularly “rub–a-dub†in this case!
Being a Yank, and not being familiar with Building codes in Ireland, can anyone answer my question?
In a high-rise building are two means of egress required or just one?
If you look at the plans of the winning entry on the DDDA site, the winning entry only has a single fire stair in the tower.
Even if the current codes alow it, it is a really bad idea to only have one way out of a tower, especially after what happened at the WTC. Here in the USA there is a great debate over whether to require even more exit width or even number of exits.
Plus we are getting closer and closer to an International Building Code, that Ireland could adopt in the future. And I am pretty sure that will require two ways out.
I thought so too.
If so, how could this have been missed? Just looked at the plans on the DDDA website and it does look as if there’s only one staircase in the tower.
Don’t think i’d buy one of those apartments, even if could afford to!!
If there was a fire in the tower and the staircase was blocked, it looks as if the only thing you would be able to do would be to run up to that roof garden and kiss your arse goodbye.
Just uploaded another four or five entries… and still more to come (I’ve been promised some others)….
I would say that the slenderness ratio is just ridiculous. 60m is the highest for Dublin. what if a tower with 40m high? the tower is only 10mx10m and we still need to put 2 elevators and stairs and some circulation space?
Besides the north side of this u2 tower is just water, it’s not gonna cast any shadow on any buildings. what kind of sense to have a stupid slenderness ratio?Still intrigued about the fire escape issue in the tower. Does anyone know if it is legal to only have one fire escape / stairway in the tower? I know there’s an issue with distance to a fire escape so you don’t have to run too far in the event of a fire, but it seems really odd that the proposed building only has one staircase.
If a fire started somewhere on the stairway, or if the stairway was filled with smoke, then everyone above would have no secondary means of escape, apart from elevators which might probably fail in the event of a fire.
Wouldnt pass any remarks on anything you read onm skyscrapers.com. At one stage they had Clarion Quay as the tallest building in Ireland. And they’re a bit free and easy with lifting photographs and then charging to see them.
almost all of the entries as it seems to me tried to be amzing and ” wow look at how bautifull is” but i think they have forgoten to create some space and a place where people would like to stay not just to visit. From this point of view i like the one from Macedonia.
So is there any link where i can get a bit more familiar with the Macedonian entrant or an e-mail address.
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