Trees Cut Down On O’Connell Street
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- July 19, 2005 at 10:48 pm #759858
GrahamH
ParticipantPerhaps when he says London plane, he means Oriential plane.
Why the heck were those birches planted on the Lower median – is it intended to remove them?
July 20, 2005 at 1:07 am #759859Anonymous
Inactiveyou’re probably right Graham, but you’d think he’d know ! ? big difference !
Oriental planes are a more medium sized tree & maintain a good shape even when mature, they should look really well in years to come running the full length on both pavements (i hope ?) london planes tend to loose their shape & get fairly scraggy …
I’m in two minds about the birch on the lower median myself, they were fully intentionally & i think do a nice job of framing views of the spire (see attached pic), they are a fairly rare variety of birch known as ‘Tristis’ which stay tall & thin with a strong weeping habit … I do see the argument for maintaining consistency on the median using just mountain ash … i just really like birch so suppose am biased a little…
Apart from the limes & birch, the oriental planes (on the footpaths) and mountain ash (on the median) are the only other species used & far out number the others …
July 20, 2005 at 2:01 pm #759860ctesiphon
Participant@StephenC wrote:
A perfect example is Kings Inn Street which has been conpletely rebuilt on but without a tree in sight even though the addition of planting would liven up the streetscape no end. Ironically the marketing photos for these schemes show the building ‘softened’ with planting. Perhaps its the Ray Burke style planting that disappears as quickly as it appears.
Or perhaps it’s the case that the fewer trees we have, the fewer trees there are (not just in North County Dublin) for politicians to go up and down in search of the truth…? :rolleyes: Now that’s public service for you.
July 20, 2005 at 5:36 pm #759861GrahamH
Participantπ
Are you sure Peter that just mountain ash are planned for the Upper stretch and no birch? It is because of this that I thought the birch might be going on the Lower end, and the fact that they weren’t planted behind O’Connell Monument either – why was this?!
Also, not so long after the birches were planted, I passed by contractors with a new birch in a sack ready to be planted as if one of the new birches put in was to be replaced…There’s just something rather fishy about them overall, and I think they’re completely inappropriate for the median, especially mixed with the mountain ash where they look a complete mess when flowering.
Agreed they’re beautiful trees, always been a fan too (to the extent that they’re much nicer than the ash), but not of the use they’ve been put to.
Even if they were used lining the side pavements, but not chucked in amongst others on the median.July 21, 2005 at 6:48 pm #759862July 21, 2005 at 6:54 pm #759863GrahamH
Participantlol π
‘Condition: Used’
July 21, 2005 at 9:26 pm #759864ctesiphon
Participant“One careful owner”? :rolleyes:
July 21, 2005 at 9:31 pm #759865Anonymous
InactiveGot the info from a fairly detailed article in a trade magazine called ‘Horticulture & Landscape Ireland’ … just re-read it, and copped on that the article actually contradicts itself
Anyway in the end it states that overall there will be:
27 limes,
24 weeping birch (so if 8have already been planted i assume the other 16 are for the upper median)
38 ornamental ash
70 oriental planes.It does state a couple of times that the birch are intended to mirror & frame views of the spire … think they should have gone for all birch in that case & left the ash, anyway guess we’ll just have to wait & see !
July 22, 2005 at 6:16 pm #759866GrahamH
ParticipantThanks for that Peter.
@ctesiphon wrote:
“One careful owner”? :rolleyes:
lol – I’d get on to Ebay about that for fallacious advertising π
July 28, 2005 at 11:18 am #759867magicbastarder
Participantthe trees on the south east stretch – between lower abbey street and the quays – were lying around in three foot long sections as i passed by this morning.
July 28, 2005 at 4:41 pm #759868urbanisto
ParticipantThe Indo mentioned that this section will be completed in a month as it is causing major traffic headaches. The problem is insufficient number can get through the lights leading to snarls ups further along OC St. I think the pavements here will be narrower than those on the west side to accommodate a third lane for turning onto Eden Quay,
July 29, 2005 at 4:25 am #759869sleanusa
Participant@weehamster wrote:
Sue, I’ve one thing to say to that , fook off with your chainsaw. π‘ Mature trees are more beautiful than any building.
To WEEHAMSTER, could you please watch your language, Do not lower the image of the Irish to the people from around the world any further then what it is, Give me a break, I’m more Irish then you are my friend and I’m tired of people like you thinking it’s the way to explain yourself by using four letter words.
July 29, 2005 at 12:04 pm #759870-Donnacha-
ParticipantIt’s simply amazing how ireland works! I am a foreigner and It’s increible how people can be in favor of the chopping!!!! That kind of thought is from 30 years ago. Things have to change in this country to be like the rest of europe!!!
Why didn’t they move them to other place??? Is that difficult to figure it out????!!!!I am not impressed there are no forest in ireland
July 29, 2005 at 12:14 pm #759871urbanisto
ParticipantWell I have to agree they COULD have moved these two trees although it would have taken a couple of years but then the IAP has been 7 years in process! Still these two trees will be replaced by five new ones so there is some gain.
July 29, 2005 at 12:24 pm #759872-Donnacha-
ParticipantI know the rythm of the time is different here π , but I don’t think it is about two trees, it’s about two mature trees and repect for the environment and nature. I think it’s not reponsible to plant two new trees if they are going to be chopped again in 30 years. Trees are valuable things.
July 29, 2005 at 5:33 pm #759873Anonymous
Inactiveits about planting the right tree in the right spot 111, which will be suitable for a much longer time frame than 30 years, the trees were to large to be moved successfully …
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