Theyre at it again – A Georgian goes on the quays / Endangered Georgian Dublin

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  • #709226
    hutton
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    Dublin: Corner of Bridgefoot St and Ushers Island; 4 floor Georgian left derelict with billboards on the facade. There last week and for 200 years previously – now a derelict site. Needless to say a Conservation Area, although the building itself was not specifically listed on the RPS. Will there be action by DCC – what odds?

    So were back at that again in the capital – 12 Dorset St, the Sheridan home; just board it up and sooner or later youll get the nod. Happily Bridgefoot St is now clear to proceed… So wheres next?

    #787555
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    hutton wrote:
    Dublin: Corner of Bridgefoot St and Ushers Island]

    😮 I cannot understand why the Derelict Site Act 1990 in not used more often by LA’s. They are required by law not to allow what you describe happen.

    9.—lt shall be the duty of every owner and occupier of land, including a statutory body and a State authority, to take all reasonable steps to ensure that the land does not become or does not continue to be a derelict site.
    10.—It shall be the duty of a local authority to take all reasonable steps (including the exercise of any appropriate statutory powers) to ensure that any land situate in their functional area does not become or continue to be a derelict site.
    11.—(1) Where—
    ( a ) in the opinion of a local authority it is necessary to do so, in order to prevent land situate in their functional area from becoming or continuing to be a derelict site, or
    they shall serve a notice in writing on any person who appears to them to be the owner or occupier of the said land.
    (2) A notice under this section shall—
    ( a ) specify the measures which the local authority or the Minister, as the case may be, consider to be necessary in order to prevent the land from becoming or continuing to be a derelict site,
    ( b ) direct the person on whom the notice is being served to take such measures as may be specified in the notice, and
    ( c ) specify a period (being not less than one month) within which such measures are to be taken; provided, however, the notice shall not have effect until—
    (i) the expiration of fourteen days from the date of service of the notice, or
    (ii) if any representations are made under subsection (3), the date on which the local authority notify the person making such representations that they have considered the said representations.

    #787556
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I didn’t get a chance to look properly but has this building recently be demolished? I was driving past and what looks like a recently cleared site on Usher’s Island briefly caught my attention but I didn’t have time to figure out what it was that had been levelled.

    #787557
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Suddenly it begins to become clear… Scheme proposed for adjacent site (13 Bridgefoot St):

    with another elevation here:

    Granted by DCC, I understand that its under appeal to An Bord. So between this and other large projects being proposed for the quays, ie the suas/ pie-in-the-sky cable car + also the Clarence redevelopment with its gigantic toilet bowl, remind me again what DCC’s definition of “Conservation Area” is… :rolleyes:

    #787558
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Are they out of their minds? This madness might work in Constructivist Moscow 1920 (or rather the dreams of those Russian guys) but looming over the quays…..

    #787559
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    what the in the name of sweet jesus is that? what a shit day today is on archiseek. We’ve had the suas, the mad statue nonsense and now this. It seems DCC are doing their best to carry on the mutilation of the quays begun with the section 23 muck and the Docklands snorefest

    btw where does the overhanging sanitation go?

    #787560
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    who are the architects?

    #787561
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    that thing honestly turns my stomach…… theres something comletely wrong about it…

    #787562
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Eh.. What the fuck?

    #787563
    admin
    Keymaster

    I kinda like it on first look, now the demise of another georgian, particularly on the quays is another thing altogether… perhaps this is part of the upscaling for the heuston ‘gateway’.

    With high rises popping up in all major suburbs & at stragegic gateway points, the concept of the doughnut city is perhaps becoming a reality.

    #787564
    admin
    Keymaster

    @Paul Clerkin wrote:

    who are the architects?

    Architects: Mitchell & Associates, Fumbally Court, Fumbally Lane, Dublin 8

    Appeal Details:
    Case reference: 29S223337
    Case type: Planning Appeal
    Reg. Ref.: 6361/06
    Location: North West corner of Island Street & Bridgefoot St, Dublin 8
    Planning Authority: Dublin City Council
    Development: Mixed development comprising 41 no. residential units, office space, retail and all ancillary site works.
    Applicant: Flancrest Entreprises Ltd (Applicant)
    EIS required: No
    Appellant: An Taisce

    Appeal Lodged: 08/05/2007
    Status: Case is due to be decided by 10-09-2007

    #787565
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    here are some more images of the scheme
    http://www.mitchell.ie/site/bridgefoot_street.asp

    #787566
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @www.mitchell.ie/site/ wrote:

    Client:
    Private Client + DCC

    So if DCC is a client how did this not go via section 8 to An Bord P? :confused:

    #787567
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Im amazed at this monstrosity. And the fact that it has never been heard of before. It is indeed looking pretty dire for the Quays. Absolutely no vision! Or at least a very skewered and unbalanced vision. In my opinion the quays need a proper framework plan and design statement and a commitement from DCC to invest in the public realm. Not this haphazardness

    #787568
    admin
    Keymaster

    There is more information on the planning application for Nos. 1 and 2 Usher’s Island (now demolished) on this thread

    https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=4432 starting on 11 Nov 2005 Post No. 11

    An Bord Pleanala requested 1 floor be removed from this proposal.

    #787569
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @hutton wrote:

    What the hell is that thing? :confused:

    #787570
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Same firm have won design competition for new entrance to the War Memorial Gardens
    http://www.mitchell.ie/site/memorial_gardens.asp
    Also, have another scheme for redevelopment of a pretty rundown council block near the Four Courts
    http://www.mitchell.ie/site/st_michans_feasibility_study.asp

    #787571
    admin
    Keymaster

    Mitchell pretty much get every major landscape design scheme in this country – O’connell street, Henry Street, Eyre square, Dun Laoghaire … there’s a big list. I’d say their collective noses were knocked out a little when Schwartz was commissioned to do Grand Canal Dock, as far as i know they were responsible for the scheme that immediately proceeded it.

    #787572
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @THE_Chris wrote:

    What the hell is that thing? :confused:

    Well you see this is a new development facing onto the quays using a site formerly occupied by a Georgian house – as originally posted by Sloan –

    @Sloan wrote:


    An Bord Pleanala requested 1 floor be removed from this proposal.

    …whereas this pair of linked buildings would be another new development on a separate but adjacent site on Bridgefoot St – it would be behind the development depicted above –

    @hutton wrote:

    … apparently the concept of overhanging one new building behind another, ‘Doggy-style Design’, is DCC’s latest innovation – there are even suggestions that the new duo may be called “Copulation Court”…

    #787573
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    or “Tetris Towers”

    dammit now the tetris music is in my head
    doo doo doo etc…

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