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  • #765595
    Anonymous
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    Praxiteles,
    In a deep recess of my mind I have an image of St. Josephs Glasthule with a sort of stand-alone spire/belfry. I always thought it (the plan) looked very incongruous. Never built, do you know if that was part of the Pugin + Ashlin design or a later proposal?
    Thanks
    KB2

    #765596
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    Dear KerryBog2,

    I am a little tied up at the moment with Midleton -where progress is being made – but I will get back to this quam primum. P

    #765597
    gorton
    Participant

    Hi Folks,
    I’ve been ringing All Saints Barton for 2 weeks without success to gain access. I’ll just have to try on spec. In the meantime for those of you who can get BBC2 there is an half hour documentary about Gorton Monastery and our trials and tribulations in getting through the funding and red tape. We had a private screening this week and the photography is absolutely stunning. So watch out for

    ” A Passion for Churches” BBC 2, 7.30 p.m 8th March 2006

    Best wishes

    #765598
    Luzarches
    Participant

    Hi Gorton,

    Can you tell me, as a matter of interest, whether before the deconsecration of the church Gorton had a continuous set of altar rails, i.e. rails running the whole width of the church, aisles and nave?

    #765599
    gorton
    Participant

    Hi Luzarches

    Attached are two views of altar and sanctuary, both showing altar rails. The rails were present at the time of deconsecration and are probably post 1914. (or 1910) Immediately prior to 1914 there was a Rood Screen which lasts for less than a year. I’ll check the details when i get to work on Monday. I cant tell if there are rails to the side altars at the top of the aisles, so will check pictures on Monday.

    #765600
    gorton
    Participant

    Sorry pictures didnt load will try again

    #765601
    gorton
    Participant

    Second time lucky
    🙂

    #765602
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Very interesting pictures of Gorton monastery in the previous post – thanks Gorton! The altar rails run the width of the church, embracing sanctuary and side chapels in a unity, a feature very noticeable in Pugin and Ashlin’s Cobh Cathedral, also St Peter and Paul’s, Cork, and All Saints, Barton. Could it be said that this was a feature of Pugin churches?
    The reredos is most spectacular and unusual. How well does it survive?

    #765603
    gorton
    Participant

    My memory was playing tricks, the altar rails were in place by 1914 as you can see on the attached. If i had to hazard a guess i would place them at the latest 1885, the date the high altar was consecrated. The rood screen didnt last very long and appears to be part of minor re-ordering of the Church, possibly as part of the 1911 golden anniversary celebrations when the whole of the Church was re-decorated. The reredos is in appalling state, about only 1/3 rd survives. More on altar and reredos later. Incidentally the altar is by Peter Paul Pugin

    #765604
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    E. W. Pugin

    The Basilica of Our Lady in Dadizele, Flanders

    This looks to eb the interior before the WWI bombing.

    #765605
    gorton
    Participant

    It’s a beautiful day here in Manchester so i thought i’d go to Mass, if thats the only way to get a look at Pugin’s All Saint’s Barton interior. Wrong:( Whats the world coming to when you can’t get into Church on Sundays? However took some exterior shots. Bit difficult as all gates padlocked and views obscured from south by friary and from north by trees, however here they are. first 4 of 14

    #765606
    gorton
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    All Saints, Barton
    second 4 of 14

    #765607
    gorton
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    All Saints Barton
    third 4 of 14

    #765608
    gorton
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    All Saints Barton
    last 2 of 14

    #765609
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    Dear Gorton,

    Thanks a million for those beautiful pictures of Barton Church. From the facade, you can immediately see the same idea of the soaring arch whichE. W. Pugin used in Cobh, in Dadizele in Belgium and in Glasthule in Dublin. We must find out who has charge of the church and obtain entry.

    #765610
    Luzarches
    Participant

    @Praxiteles wrote:

    E. W. Pugin

    The Basilica of Our Lady in Dadizele, Flanders

    This looks to eb the interior before the WWI bombing.

    Praxiteles,

    Did this church survive WWII to be faithfully rebuilt in the manner of St Martin, Ypres, or was it done on a budget? Any contemporary pictures?

    #765611
    gorton
    Participant

    Dear Praxiteles,
    Thanks, i’ve got a phone number and web address for All Saints but no answers. It was’nt possible to even knock on friary door cos gates were padlocked. Concerned that no activity on a Sunday, although at least one set of tyre tracks in the snow. If you look closely at picture 4 you can see door appears to be nailed shut and picture 14 shows damage to roof. Are we facing another “Gorton Monastery”. will keep you posted.

    #765612
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    I soncerely hope not. I was only thinking today that of E.W. Pugin’s most important buildings Dadizele was bombed during the First World War; Gorton was abandoned and vandalized; and a crowd of ignorant sleezey clerics are trying to wreck Cobh.

    #765613
    gorton
    Participant

    Hi Sangallo,
    Reredos at Gorton Monastery

    In 1883 an outdoor workshop on the north side of the Friary garden was constructed to serve as brother Patrick Dalton’s workshop for the creation of the high altar. P.P. Pugin designed this altar, which was one of the largest exemplars in the country at the time of its consecration in 1885. An article in Manchester Faces and Places written in 1900 describes in detail the altar and reredos as it existed at that time.

    “The altar and reredos are very elaborate in decoration. At the back of the altar is the marble and alabaster reredos, forming a buttress to the great central canopy, which rises to the height of over 40 feet. The bottom of the reredos is composed of two large piers, that on the Epistle side containg the piscine, and that on the Gospel side the aumbry. On the top of these piers are canopied niches, in which are figures of St Anthony, St Clare, St Elizabeth of Hungary, and St Bonaventure. Arches with traceried and crocketed gables connect the piers with the walls of the chancel. On either side of the central canopy, which is supported by marble columns, are flying buttresses formed of open tracery work, and at the bottom of these buttresses are piers terminating in niches. In the niches on the gospel side is a figure of St Francis, and in that on the Epistle side is a statue of St Dominic. The throne, supported by two angels, is placed immediately under the central canopy, and is approached by steps following the line of the apsidal chancel, at the back of the reredos. The altar and tabernacle stand away from the reredos, and are approached by three stone steps. The altar top is of pure white marble supported by eight Californian marble shafts, and beneath the altar are panels on which are varied subjects emblematic of the eucharist. The tabernacle is of alabaster, richly moulded and carved, and has a door of beaten brass”

    Sadly the altar has been heavily vandalised and presently all that remains are the stone steps and the brick base. The reredos has also been vandalised, mostly at the sides and upper edges. On the attached sketch, taken from an old photograph i’ve marked up in red the existing remains of the reredos. Anything out side of the red line has been lost and even those parts inside the red line have been subject to damage as you’ll see from some sample photos i’ve attached.

    Some times it makes me sad:( and other times it makes me mad:mad: but one day we will have the money to restore it – latest estimate

    #765614
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    Some shots of E. W. Pugin’s most important American commission, The Basilica of Our Lady of Perpetual Succour at Roxbury, Boston

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