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  • #807292
    Anonymous
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    Another biker fiend site nearly ready, outside the European Parliament building in Molesworth Street.

    Is this “On your Bike” for Europe or for use of the Veliberals?

    #807293
    Anonymous
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    I thought there would have been a station in the docklands..

    #807294
    Anonymous
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    There is one right next to the Sean O’Casey bridge, north side.

    #807295
    Anonymous
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    @jesus_o_murchu wrote:

    The only bikes that are referred to as “Velibs” are the ones in Paris. In Dublin the bikes will be called ‘Dublin Bikes’ (how imaginative) and will presumably have the logo ‘dbs’ (http://www.dublinbikes.ie/misc/construction.html)
    ??

    they could always call em dikes.

    i presume they think most people won’t use for more then 30 mins here either thus being able to continue the notion that they’re free.

    you can use an atm card too to rent them not just a credit card right?

    #807296
    Anonymous
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    New biker site spotted today.

    Just opposite the long standing “temporary” Oireachtas car park on Merrion Square, almost under the gaze of Mr Wilde. A good site for a statue to Myles.

    #807297
    Anonymous
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    ” J C Decaux, the world’s second-largest seller of outdoor ads, said first-half profit plummeted 96 per cent as advertising on billboards, buses and other vehicles fell……..”

    😮

    #807298
    Anonymous
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    Another site for the bikers who dig architecture, neatly wrapped in fashionable black plastic, has appeared just across from the architectural archive on Merrion Square.

    Very handy for those coming out bemused by study of ecclesiastical adaptation or of obscure Georgians. You will soon be able to cross the road and pedal off into the distance.

    #807299
    Anonymous
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    @jesus_o_murchu wrote:

    The only bikes that are referred to as “Velibs” are the ones in Paris. In Dublin the bikes will be called ‘Dublin Bikes’ (how imaginative) and will presumably have the logo ‘dbs’ (http://www.dublinbikes.ie/misc/construction.html)

    Does anyone know what the pricing stucture will be? I know that in Lyon – where the bike scheme has had a profoundly positive impact on the culture of cycling in the city – the bikes are incredibly easy to use, always in plentiful supply, and very affordable (provided you have a bank account with a laser/credit card). There it costs any tourist 1 euro per day if you use the bike for a maximum of 30 minutes at a time. Otherwise its an additional 1 euro per hour. There is such an abundance of stations around the city though that there is never any need to go over the 30 minutes. You simply use the bikes to get (cruise) from A to B. The inner suburbs are all generally within walking distance of a station. Residents of Lyon can pay a flat rate of 15 euro per year. Once you sign up with your card at the machine (takes two minutes) you get a pin number which you use every time you want to pick up a new one. No worries about having a decent lock for your bike, no worries about having proper lights at night, no maintenance costs and a big basket to put your shopping / football boots / schoolboks etc into while you cycle. The phrase ‘quality of life’ kept coming to me when I observed how incredibly popular they were with all sorts of characters using them in Lyon. My big hope is that we don’t stuff it up here in Dublin with an inflated pricing structure (like the Luas) or with an off-putting overly bulky/heavy design.

    Tried to upload a few images but they failed (even though their under 100kb each) ??

    We have been told that for us residents, it will be a €10 yearly fee, joining online and getting a card/pass thingy. and then every time you use the bikes,
    0-30mins are free,
    30-60mins – 50c
    60-90mins – €1

    and so on and on and on…..
    but as posted above, most useage will be 30mins or less, you park it back up and then grab another one when you need it. prices may change, as i have nothing in writting im afraid.
    the planning drawing office have nothing to do with the logo’s either.
    as fair as im aware, JC Decaux designed them, with some input from the planners involved directly.
    i asked the planner, why theres no bike stations at the train stations and i was told that these are designed as commuting bikes and small distance travel within the city, not a tourists attraction as such. tourists will still use cycleways and the rent a place at the pheonix park etc etc.

    #807300
    Anonymous
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    Why would you think a planner would design the logo? Clearly the operator of the service (ie JC Decaux) are responsible for the design.

    #807301
    Anonymous
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    @kceire wrote:

    i asked the planner, why theres no bike stations at the train stations and i was told that these are designed as commuting bikes and small distance travel within the city, not a tourists attraction as such. tourists will still use cycleways and the rent a place at the pheonix park etc etc.

    If they’re “commuting bikes” then surely train stations might be a convenient place to put them…? I get the DART to Connolly often enough to appreciate how useful a bike stand there would be. Maybe not Tara because people would end up under the wheels of a lorry on the quays of Heuston, which no-one approaches without luggage, but Connolly would work. Until pikeys nick all the bikes.

    #807302
    Anonymous
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    @kceire wrote:

    i asked the planner, why theres no bike stations at the train stations and i was told that these are designed as commuting bikes and small distance travel within the city, not a tourists attraction as such. tourists will still use cycleways and the rent a place at the pheonix park etc etc.

    Maybe if they get used less they make more money? (less wear n tear)
    Why would you put an advert at st stephens green? with 20,000 people an hour?
    The more people that see them will use them… foot fall/high rents/transport hubs is were all advertising wants to be and that’s where the bikes should be…

    not for 40 people a day on some back lane street that nobody but locals know about.
    The one at St Stephens green would take you 5 minutes to walk to from the station…
    You could ride one metro station stop in that time on a bike almost.

    #807303
    Anonymous
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    JCDecaux have pulled out an overseas tender for 600 bikes with 50 stations saying the scheme was to small and the council where opposed to more outdoor advertising.

    Is it to hard for it to be funded out of the transport budget with no advertising?

    #807304
    Anonymous
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    http://www.dublinbikes.ie
    the website is up now:

    “Cosmopolitan cities such as Paris, Lyon, Vienna, and Montreal all offer a public bike scheme. Dublin now joins this elite list. On 13th September 2009 dublinbikes will offer locals and visitors a non-polluting, traffic jam-beating form of transport to get around our capital city”

    WOW

    #807305
    Anonymous
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    I can’t believe only” 14 of the 40 terminals have credit card facilities enabling you to purchase a 3 Day Ticket (Please note that Laser Maestro, VISA Electron debit card and cash are not accepted)”.

    It seems the system is designed not to be used by tourists as well as commuters!

    Its really odd that there are no stations around The Guinness Storehouse (the most visited, paid for, tourist attraction in the country) and Kilmainham Jail/ IMMA, not to mention our National Museum at Collins barricks, all of which are ideal for them. I guess this was because of the limited number of bikes available.

    #807306
    Anonymous
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    @ac1976 wrote:

    I can’t believe only” 14 of the 40 terminals have credit card facilities enabling you to purchase a 3 Day Ticket (Please note that Laser Maestro, VISA Electron debit card and cash are not accepted)”.

    It seems the system is designed not to be used by tourists as well as commuters!

    Its really odd that there are no stations around The Guinness Storehouse (the most visited, paid for, tourist attraction in the country) and Kilmainham Jail/ IMMA, not to mention our National Museum at Collins barricks, all of which are ideal for them. I guess this was because of the limited number of bikes available.

    Ah You see that might be because Dublin got… Ripped Off 😡

    – Still less than 1/2 the amount of bikes-per-billboard that Paris got: why did City Council officials agree such a shite deal? Why is there no accountability of decisions made by public sector officials made on our behalf – only a (failed) determination to have tried to have kept the contract away from public sight?

    Why, oh why, oh why are there still so many questions as to the lousy deal that the council got for Dubliners? 😡

    #807307
    Anonymous
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    Dublin tourist office 0
    Dublin bikes 1

    3 on O’Connell st?
    One on the bridge as part of the bus stop
    2 in westmoreland st
    2 in college green

    anyway I digress… at least you guys got some bikes…;)

    #807308
    Anonymous
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    Minor niggles aside, I think this is really great that this is happening. If its subscribed to properly it could change how we use the city quite a lot.

    I’d like to see it extended out to the aforementioned IMMA / Pheonix park/collins barracks etc. which really suffer from lack of connection with the city.

    #807309
    Anonymous
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    @what? wrote:

    Minor niggles aside, I think this is really great that this is happening. If its subscribed to properly it could change how we use the city quite a lot.

    I’d like to see it extended out to the aforementioned IMMA / Pheonix park/collins barracks etc. which really suffer from lack of connection with the city.

    Fare point Mr What?
    The scheme itself is a good idea and its sucess is dependant on its support from Dubliners. I will definitely support it and subscribe.

    But I do also think DCC need their asses kicked a lot more before they can even begin to plan the next phase of this or else they will make a mess of that too.

    #807310
    Anonymous
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    @what? wrote:

    I’d like to see it extended out to the aforementioned IMMA / Pheonix park/collins barracks etc. which really suffer from lack of connection with the city.

    Agreed, Phoenix Park really needs to be brought into the city. Will there be a metro stop there?

    #807311
    Anonymous
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    i like the idea of all this – just one question – apologies if answered already:

    if I take one to a destination and / or back where I started and the nearest drop off point is full presumably I have to go to the next one and so on and so on. Presumably there will be a map telling me where the nearest one is but I also presume that there’s no way of knowing if there’s any spaces on that on either? what if they’re all full – do I have to stand there until one becomes available?

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