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  • #721498
    ro_G
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    as cranes go it’s lovely. any crane-o-philes might also be tempted by a rather large erection beside The Square in Tallaght.

    Forgive me if this question has been asked previously but when is the completion date on the Spire?

    #721499
    Niall
    Participant

    Launch date for unveiling of the Spike in Dublin still up in the air
    By Kitty Holland

    Nobody seems to know when the spire for Dublin’s O’Connell Street will be finally unveiled.

    Already over a year behind schedule, we were told in April that it would be ready by September. Still, however, the capital is “spikeless”, and no one is quite sure when the “Monument of Light”, as it is officially known, will see some light.

    According to the project engineer on the spire, Mr Michael O’Neill: “It is hard to predict when it will be finished.”

    A spokeswoman for Dublin Bus said yesterday evening that the company had been advised by Dublin City Council that construction would begin this weekend, with an official unveiling planned for December 8th. However, a problem has arisen with embellishing the stainless steel exterior of the spire with the intended design.

    The spire is currently in six sections at Radley Engineering in Dungarvan, Co Waterford. Mr O’Neill explained that the design, said to be “reflective of what’s happening to the rocks beneath O’Connell Street”, had to be shot-peened (bombarded with metal shot) on to the spire’s surface.

    At the moment the engineers are endeavouring to shot-peen the design on to the first 10-metre-high section.

    The engineers’ chosen method was to put a layer of masking material over the surface of the spire to protect the metal, explained Mr O’Neill. The metal is then heated to the optimum temperature for the process. However, when the engineers shoot the tiny balls of metal at the surface, to create the dulled-effect design, the masking material is slipping.

    “We are going to spend the rest of the week cracking the problem,” said Mr O’Neill. The process is being supervised by architect Mr Robin Cross of Ian Ritchie architects in London.

    Asked what would happen if the problem was not resolved by the end of the week, Mr O’Neill said it was important that the engineers took as long they needed.

    “They are going to stay with it until they get it right,” he said. “The design element of the project was always going to be the hardest. The cutting, the welding, the bolting together is all very straightforward.

    “It has to be perfect, as the sections have be transported to the site ready. There is no way they can go back to Waterford for small changes once they have been brought to Dublin.”

    Gardaí in Dungarvan said they had been given no notice of when the first two sections would leave the Radley Engineering works. According to Mr O’Neill, the sections would be escorted through each county by that county’s gardaí on a tarpaulin-covered lorry. They would be brought to the outskirts of Dublin and held there until given clearance by the Dublin gardaí for the final journey to O’Connell Street, said Mr O’Neill.

    “It will probably be brought in sometime between midnight and 1.30 a.m. and tucked in behind the hoarding already up there in O’Connell Street.”

    Mr O’Neill estimates that the entire spire will be erected over a period of 12 to 14 days once the final assembly begins.

    He said there would be 10 to 15-minute traffic stoppages on O’Connell Street each morning and evening as the enormous crane, already in place, rises from and returns to its “sleeping” position in the morning. This process involved the crane swinging out over the street and could, said Mr O’Neill, be such a distraction to motorists as to be dangerous.

    When finally in place, the Monument of Light will be 120 metres high – about the same height as RTÉ’s main transmission mast in Donnybrook.

    #721500
    fjp
    Participant

    The RTE mast really puts it into perspective…

    #721501
    Andrew Duffy
    Participant

    I can see the crane from Harold’s Cross. It’s leaning down at the moment, so there’s no point in taking a photo.

    #721502
    fjp
    Participant

    I hadn’t thought of it, but I just ran upstairs to the top story of this Georgian house on Baggot Street. And there’s the crane, stooped but visible in the distance.

    In a way the spike’s just going to be a giant thingy that says “Here is the middle of Dublin”. Nice…

    fjp

    #721503
    GregF
    Participant

    Saw on the Irish Times letters page recently that some member of the general public suggested calling the Spike …..’An Cleadamh Solais’……the Sword of Light.

    #721504
    kefu
    Participant

    Sword of Light was a suggestion by the National Graves Association, who preserve graves, monuments to those who died for Ireland. I thought it was a fittingly elegant name for an elegant monument.

    PS – Does anyone know what the Eiffel Tower was called before they decided to honour Gustave Eiffel.

    #721505
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    The crane was fully extended for a while this afternoon, its back in the sleeping position now.

    #721506
    urbanisto
    Participant

    Hmm Sword of Light… sounds like a name it might have been given in 1966. I think we’ve had enough of all that, thank you.

    #721507
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Kefu, it seems always to have been called the Eiffel tower, because it was Gustave Eiffel’s engineering company that came up with the idea.

    It was for the World’s Fair of 1889, which commemorated the centenary of the French Revolution. So it is a monument.

    More particularly it celebrated French science and industry. Names of scientists are engraved on it somewhere.

    #721508
    colinsky
    Participant

    so, if I can see the crane from my balcony, does that mean I’ll likely be able to see the spike as well?

    #721509
    fjp
    Participant

    No. The Spike will ocasionally go out of phase with daylight when viewed from certain parts of the city. This means that even if you can now see the crane, you might only see an inverted area of sky in the space that the spike will occupy.

    This is similiar to the “white-out” effect sometimes experienced by pilots above snow filled landscapes.

    🙂

    fjp

    #721510
    PaulC
    Participant

    Actually I noticed the same effect with the Trump Tower in New York – not sure if any of you are familiar with it. But if you look up to the top of it – it reflects the sky perfectly and looks like a cage frame in the sky. An amazing effect

    #721511
    fjp
    Participant

    I actually just made that up, although the Trump thing does sounds cool. I will observe when I hopefully go there this summer.

    fjp

    #721512
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    fjp, you are a wag and a seer and possibly a reincarnation of Flann O’Brien. Out of phase with daylight? Inverted area of sky? Such absurdist sentiments deserve to be true.

    Weird but true fact: shortly after the completion of the Eiffel Tower, optically strange climatic conditions meant that an inverted image of the tower appeared in the misty skies above it.

    #721513
    mite
    Participant

    can anyone tell me what stage it’s at now? ok, perhaps i’m a little impatient… i’m not in ireland so i have been following progress on archeire and am looking forward to seeing it at christmas… Is the crane completely up? have they started on the actual spike yet? can we see anything at all?

    #721514
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    nothing really… the wind is keeping the crane in the grounded position afaik

    #721515
    -Donnacha-
    Participant

    Is that all that’s delaying it or are they still having problems with the details in Dungarvan?

    #721516
    SeAnC
    Participant

    What is the height difference between the
    poolbeg towers in ringsend and the sword of
    light (or whatever they are calling it!).
    I presume the spike is smaller?

    #721517
    DavidF
    Participant

    According to http://www.esb.ie the chimney stacks are 680ft (207m) I think the spire will be 120m

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