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    • #708434
      The Denouncer
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      I am new to these forums (though not others) but recently have found myself addicted!..I find the development of my city (Dublin) past and present an increasingly enjoyable topic of conversation..and just want to raise a few observations about future developments!

      I get the train every morning to work in the Docks and would like to know if there are any updates on the following:

      1. re thread https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=673 dating back a long time, I haven’t seen much development of Tara St. train station, just temporary walls warning about temporary surfaces..will the plan as discussed in the above thread ever see the light of day? or any improvement to that station? It looks awful.

      2. Also Connolly Station, the broken barbed wire and generally 3rd World condition of some of the views of what can be seen from platform 7..apart from Bord Gais building parts of Amiens St/Connolly. really needs to be developed.

      3. The Bolands Flour Mills grey facade – I know the entire Mill has been bought for around Γ’β€šΒ¬42 Million..and plans forthcoming about this redevelopment?

      4. I read some time ago that Pearse St. was due a facelift – any news? I thought that Luas plan B would have been a perfect route to encompass this development and take tourists to the National Gallery/Museum – looks like Plan A will be the winner, unfortunately.

      5. Lastly I am a fan of high rise building, but only in a dedicated district – the Docks would have been perfect. I think Dublin should aim for a San Francisco-eqsue Bay Area skyline, and TransAmerican Pyramid-style landmark building, complete with Goodyear Blimp and information screen a la Blade Runner! BTW what happened to that tourist balloon that was muted for Temple Bar..?

      Anyway in future I plan to post pics and will try and dig up whatever I can to add to the forums, so indulge me these queries this time! πŸ™‚

    • #766982
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      @The Denouncer wrote:

      3. The Bolands Flour Mills grey facade – I know the entire Mill has been bought for around Γ’β€šΒ¬42 Million..and plans forthcoming about this redevelopment?

      Just a few signs around it at the moment asking people not to park there any more because they say that they are starting work on it. It seems that they are clearing it out at present, but I have not seen any planning application as of yet.

    • #766983
      The Denouncer
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      Originally posted by phil
      Just a few signs around it at the moment asking people not to park there any more because they say that they are starting work on it. It seems that they are clearing it out at present, but I have not seen any planning application as of yet.

      Thanks phil! The whole of Barrow st. is undergoing a lot of change, I used to live in one of the small houses on Gordon St. years ago – are they protected? When the Gasometer opens there’ll be a huge influx of people in the area. Not impressed with some of the road patches on Barrow St., looks like tar was just thrown willy nilly in the general direction of the road! BYW there is a small burnt out warehouse or something beside the Grand Canal Dock train station, Prime real estate. Still there burnt out that for years now. Things happen very slowly in this city.

    • #766984
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      The burnt out warehouse beside the Dart staion is to be apartments:
      http://www.treasuryholdings.ie/development/project_detail.asp?id=37&category=Residential&cat=1

      Not sure when they are to be started though. I think they have applied for permission, but dont really know the status of it at present. I would say that the road will be completely resurfaced once the major buildings are finished.

    • #766985
      The Denouncer
      Participant

      Thanks phil..it sure doesn’t look like it’ll fit beside that building thats there now!
      BTW whats being built beside Pearse St. train station, seems to be moving along quite rapid now.

    • #766986
      Andrew Duffy
      Participant

      The Gasworks is already open, although the building within the gasholder frame is still under construction. I guess the road will stay in poor condition for a few years until everything is built; Macken Street is in similar condition.

    • #766987
      Pepsi
      Participant

      @The Denouncer wrote:

      Thanks phil..it sure doesn’t look like it’ll fit beside that building thats there now!
      BTW whats being built beside Pearse St. train station, seems to be moving along quite rapid now.

      That’s the Krann Building.

    • #766988
      The Denouncer
      Participant

      The Krann building? Couldn’t find anything on Google – any more details on it?
      Looking at some old posts it becomes clear that some many developments remain up in the air, even posts 5 or 6 years old – Liberty Hall, Tara St., Talbot St. ..the longing for skyscrapers. Still little seems to be done to showcase Dublin as a modern thinking city, apart from the Luas and Spire. Is the U2 Tower settled on 100 metres or 78 metres? Lot of confusion there.

    • #766989
      Pepsi
      Participant

      The Krann Building will be a laboratory of some kind from what I’ve been told. As for the U2 Tower, that will be 100m high.

    • #766990
      The Denouncer
      Participant

      Originally posted by Pepsi
      The Krann Building will be a laboratory of some kind from what I’ve been told. As for the U2 Tower, that will be 100m high.

      100 metres eh? Good.

    • #766991
      Pepsi
      Participant

      According to the DDDA construction will start on the U2 Tower in 2007.

    • #766992
      The Denouncer
      Participant

      What would I give for a time machine to pop forward 10 years and take a photo of the docks. Lansdowne will be visible in the distance, half built.

    • #766993
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      @Pepsi wrote:

      The Krann Building will be a laboratory of some kind from what I’ve been told.

      It is also to be a Sports Centre I think.

    • #766994
      notjim
      Participant

      CRANN in some complicated way it stands for Centre for Understanding NanoTechnology, it includes a vibration free nanosurface lab, which is why it is located near the dart line. Also in the building will be a sports centre, a science gallery, which will be a drop in display centre for science outreach, a general purpose auditorium and, I think, a number of apartments for visitors to crann. There is a picture at
      http://www.crann.tcd.ie

    • #766995
      The Denouncer
      Participant

      Crazy! But I like it!


    • #766996
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Wow! Now that is impressive!

      It’s going to completely alter this part of the city, making Pease Street into a street again rather than falling away into the nothing that it is now in that area. The building very deftly manoeuvres the site – surprising how close it can get to the line.
      How long has this site been vacant – were the pre-Loop Line houses facing Pearse St demolished in the 1890s or in the 1960s/70s?

      The Ambassador across the road is just nearing completion too with that monster-sized building tacked on to the rear.

    • #766997
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      @notjim wrote:

      CRANN in some complicated way it stands for Centre for Understanding Nano Technology

      Is the Centre in any way affiliated to the Belfield Outreach and Lifelong Learning Organisation (Continuing Knowledge Sector)?

    • #766998
      notjim
      Participant

      well they have a collaborative link to the City University of Newcastle on Tyne, ok sorry, enough, I’ve been making that Centre for Understanding etc joke around college for a year now and nobody has ever noticed which is probably just as well.

      Mixed feelings about the ambassador – the front looks good but need they have gone so far with big box behind it. CRANN is going to be good, and the engineering is pretty cool I think because it needs to be vibration free despite the location. The college says it will take this opportunity to open up the campus at this end, proper enterance, more established walking route to the nassau street entrance etc, also, a big push to get people to look at the “gene therapy, can we make monsters in our kitchens?” style displays intended for the Science Gallery. I just hope the Council stops us demolisting those shops on pearse street, my impression was that they were.

    • #766999
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      πŸ™‚
      I’ve been playing word games all week, so you’ll have to try harder than that!

    • #767000
      jdivision
      Participant

      About time Trinity did something for Pearse Street. It killed it for years by buying up buildings along the street for the college which meant that the entrances to the street were no longer used.

    • #767001
      Pepsi
      Participant

      @The Denouncer wrote:

      What would I give for a time machine to pop forward 10 years and take a photo of the docks. Lansdowne will be visible in the distance, half built.

      I’d like to be able to go forward 200 years to see what Dublin will be like then.

    • #767002
      The Denouncer
      Participant

      Originally posted by Pepsi
      I’d like to be able to go forward 200 years to see what Dublin will be like then.

      Yeah it could be a police state with climate control, probably fairly tropical by then in the summers. We’ll have a 500 metre building by then, maybe. A Manhattan skyline in Balbriggan. And in the distance..Lansdowne will be visible, three-quarters built.

    • #767003
      Pepsi
      Participant

      I liked that proposal for Tara Street Station. It would have went well with One Georges Quay Plaza. It’s a pitty they didn’t build it. Back in early 2003 I asked a member of staff in the station about it and according to him it should have started by now.

    • #767004
      lostexpectation
      Participant

      @The Denouncer wrote:

      Crazy! But I like it!


      nice what about the buildings across the street from it?

    • #767005
      Morlan
      Participant

      Anyone know where the pictures of the Tara Street redev are? All the old links in the other thread are broken πŸ™

    • #767006
      The Denouncer
      Participant

      Tara street looked terrible this morning! The gleaming Ulster Bank bbehind it was offset by the awful temporary wooden fencing and grafitti, and a large advertisment cut to shreds by someone with too little brain and too much time on their hands.

    • #767007
      adhoc
      Participant

      Well it won’t be too long now until the Irish Times clock graces Tara Street and their hacks move in to the glass-skinned building on the corner of Tara and Townsend. They’ve started the fit-out of the building in the last few weeks.

    • #767008
      Bago
      Participant

      @The Denouncer wrote:

      Crazy! But I like it!


      Will this have any commercial street level frontage or will it just be a blank curtain glass wall, anyone know?

    • #767009
      adhoc
      Participant

      There will be no commerical frontage, just a glass wall revealing open exhibition and circulation space. There will be a new pedestrian entrance to the campus on Pearse Street – positioned at that point in the rendered image where the glass skin breaks. This entrance will become the main entrance for this end of the campus. To the left, looking from the Academy, will be the swimming pool, to the right will be the CRANN research centre.

    • #767010
      The Denouncer
      Participant

      Its funny travelling through the city today with all these developments, theres a real feeling that the city is in a process of transition, but my impatience is wearing thin at Tara St. and its ‘temporary’ plywood hoardings. Spencer Dock station will be fully built by the time Tara St. is finished! And am I the only one sick of grafitti? Now on the unfinished paint job at Grand Canal Dock there is grafitti that makes no sense whatsoever.

    • #767011
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Lads, if I’m not mistaken, that cinema was the Academy.

    • #767012
      Bago
      Participant

      @The Denouncer wrote:

      And am I the only one sick of grafitti? Now on the unfinished paint job at Grand Canal Dock there is grafitti that makes no sense whatsoever.

      Certainly sick of Irish/Dublin style tagging anyway,it really is so unimaginative, pointless and destructive. If you’ve been to Berlin you can see how it can actually be quite a thing of beauty.

    • #767013
      The Denouncer
      Participant

      Ah, I am beginning to see improvements at Tara St. at last.. an incredibly slow rollout, but looking better. Pearse St. could do with a lick of paint though..in fact, why don’t they install large plasma screens in the station or something to help give the station a bit of a modern sheen? Would enable a multitude of advertising to be shown at a quite the pretty penny. Irish Rail seem to be very conservative.

    • #767014
      Bago
      Participant

      @adhoc wrote:

      Well it won’t be too long now until the Irish Times clock graces Tara Street

      Driving by i couldn’t make it all out but something resembling a plastic covered clock atop a wonderfully ornate arched stand has been erected between the new irish times building and markewicz apartment bloc. looked very interesting, a lovely touch of old world decoration, very parisian i thought,… look at me getting all carried away.

    • #767015
      Bago
      Participant

      Driving slower this time i’ve realised it’s not the elegant structure i thought i saw, just the original clock mounted on a monolith type post. still nice though.

    • #767016
      johnny21
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      Are HKR architects building their new HQ on Shaw Street or is it postponed???

    • #767017
      reddy
      Participant

      @johnny21 wrote:

      Are HKR architects building their new HQ on Shaw Street or is it postponed???

      I very much doubt they’ll need the space anymore. πŸ™

    • #767018
      urbanisto
      Participant

      Hubris or wha?

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