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  • #723917
    notjim
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    sorry, east road and sherrif street.

    #723918
    GrahamH
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    I nearly fell through that hole, when gawking at Croke Park!!

    Tallest bldg is Cork City/County Hall, the second worst bldg in Ireland after Hawkins House. It was built just a couple of feet taller to beat Liberty Hall, with all that ‘real capital of Ireland’ crap going on.

    #723919
    GrahamH
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    Oh, that rear shot of Liberty Hall on fjp’s link shows the original glass aformentioned.

    #723920
    fjp
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    Me and being wrong about buildings and stuff go waaaaaaaay back.

    I might update the page, but perhaps I’ll leave my inaccuracy there to maintain a firm inter-city rivalry between the Dublin and Cork parties…

    fjp

    (I can’t find a photo of that cork city hall, anyone got one??)

    #723921
    CJ_Murphy
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    Hmmm… have a look at http://www.skyscrapers.com and goto the section on ireland.

    Shock Horror Cork is no longer the real capital! Limerick is!
    Yes the Claion Hotel is 67m
    Cork County hall is 64m
    And poor oul’ Liberty hall is only 59m.

    Also Belfast:

    Windsor House =80_m
    Belfast City Hospital =76_m
    Churchill House =66_m
    Belfast Hilton =63_m
    BT Riverside Tower = 62_m
    06.Divis Tower = 61_m

    It also lists some of the proposals for Dublin. The south bank tower would have been the first “official” skyscaper in ireland at 122m (if it ever got going). And Sir John Rogerson’s Quay might just about make the grade at 96m. In any case it now seems unlikely that either will be built as the towers had a high office content and the market is saturated. Another thing that might upset the guys in Zoe/DunloeEwart/OMS is the U2 tower which will be right next door….

    #723922
    fjp
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    Jesus.

    County Hall would certainly take down Liberty Hall in a fight. Tough looking building. Limerick’s clarion thingy looks twee by comparison, although that’s the good thing about bonkers ugly buildings – they’re rarely boring.

    I’ll send GoLive on a little “find and replace” sometime soon…

    fjp

    #723923
    emf
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    If the windows were transparent they would probably need blinds which would look terrible. Also we would be able to see the stacks of papers, folders etc that typically are piled up in offices. (just look at the new office windows to the right of Connolly St).

    I agree that the windows at the moment look a bit tired but maybe if they were replaced with new frames and proper mirrored glass they would reflect the sky and river and look quite good. O2 (Digifone House – Bord Na Mona) on Baggot St as an example!!

    I really like the mosaic wave at the top of the building especially when its lit up at night. SIPTU are doing some renovation at the moment. I think the attached theatre is finished. Dunno what their plans are for the rest!

    #723924
    fjp
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    The Liberty Hall theatre is beautiful. I was shocked by how good its foyet looked when I was in there, and it has an amazing 60s curving staircase (that someone probably wanted to replace in the eighties).

    These buildings need to be given time to firstly become out of date, and then develop into classics. That crazy Town Hall in Cork looks very serious/ugly/grim/powerful, but it’s still an impressive structure and statement of its times. It shouldn’t be refaced or renovateed (I saw plans) just because it isn’t cool in 2003. People will probably think it’s super-duper in 2030, since no-one will EVER have the balls to do anything like that again…

    So now I’m saying leave the ugly buildings in place. Except for those ESB buildings, which were just uber-silly (or in the uber-wrong place).

    fjp

    #723925
    d_d_dallas
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    I think the problem with County Hall Cork, and it’s kind is that they were left fall into complete disrepair – the whole glasshouse renovation plan has come about because 40 years have passed without a single repair job on the building – concrete columns were in threatening to fall off it – plus I read it was “unenvironmentally friendly” which probably means Cork Co Co were spending a fortune to heat it.
    I don’t think County Hall would look to bad if it was cared for over the years. Although why is it in the middle of a field?!?
    I think Central Bank, Dame St is looking v.grimey these days. County Hall of the future?

    #723926
    fjp
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    I won’t hear a bad word spoken about the glorious Central Bank!!!

    “RAAAARRRRR” (says the central bank)

    fjp

    #723927
    d_d_dallas
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    Hey – respect to CB!

    All I meant was I’d hate to see Dublin’s finest turn out like Corks… er – finest???

    #723928
    GrahamH
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    Yeah, It’d beat you in a fight any day.(then again any building would) Location aside, its one of Ireland’s finest buildings, and actually has stood the test of time, looking quite minimalist and fashionable today.

    #723929
    Paul Clerkin
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    Originally posted by CJ_Murphy
    Hmmm… have a look at http://www.skyscrapers.com and goto the section on ireland.

    Shock Horror Cork is no longer the real capital! Limerick is!
    Yes the Claion Hotel is 67m
    Cork County hall is 64m
    And poor oul’ Liberty hall is only 59m

    They are wrong. This came up on P45 so I checked with Murray O’Laoire…. Clarion Hotel is 56m and they’re the architects..

    #723930
    d_d_dallas
    Participant

    Yeshhhh – the final height of the Clarion wasn’t really known as it was being built – they were hoping to come out no 1 – but at time of completion came out no 3 (Georges Qy wasn’t quite there yet). So dreary County Hall is still the best we can do – sigh. It’s extension/refit is finally about to get under way though…

    Saw in the Indo property section an article about plans for a 19 storey residential block in (gasp) Ballymun!!! No seriously. It’s propsed for the north end of the area – and the height can go ahead as it’s location means it doesn’t interfere with the light in the new town (I’m paraphrasing here). does anyone know anything about this – or what it will look like.

    [later says:ooops! sorry just noticed another thread referring to this project…]

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