Spencer Dock Saga
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July 13, 2000 at 11:15 am #704902AnonymousParticipant
See the Spencer Dock scheme got the thumbs down. Like the Titanic it was doomed from the start. However the NCC got the go ahead but it’s back to the drawing board for Mr. Roche & co.
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July 13, 2000 at 11:54 am #715181AnonymousParticipant
That may not go ahead either,due to finance.
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July 13, 2000 at 3:30 pm #715182Rory WParticipant
Time to build something different I think. Ah well, hard luck Johnny Ronan, Harry Crosbie et al. Better luck (and design) next time!!!
Rory W
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July 13, 2000 at 3:57 pm #715183AnonymousParticipant
Tough luck Treasury Holdings,Ronan,Crosbie and gang……..perhaps the most ruthless property developers operating in the country.
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November 5, 2000 at 3:30 pm #715184JOFParticipant
According to todays Sunday Times, Treasury Holdings have dropped Kevin Roche and have hired Scott Tallon Walker to provide a new masterplan. They are expected to produce a more “conventional” approach. Hopefully not more of the same tedium a la IFSC 2.
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November 5, 2000 at 11:16 pm #715185JasParticipant
That is their house style at this stage so I don’t believe we’ll see anything better than those buildings in IFSC2. Afterall, as far as STW are concerned, those designs have ‘acceptance’ from the planners.
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November 5, 2000 at 11:36 pm #715186Paul ClerkinKeymaster
The buildings in the IFSC2 are particularly bland, if the Spencer Dock site was to be completed in this style, it would be a massive disappointment
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November 7, 2000 at 10:43 am #715187GregFParticipant
Wel,well Mr. Roche has been dropped in favour of Scott Tallon Walker….The Stock, Aiken and Waterman of Irish archiecture producing en masse the bland supreme, all grey, all low rise, the same detailing for all their conventional and safe schemes, nothing too radical or different.ZZZZZzzzzzzzz! Insomnia. Please will someone lace their coffees with LSD and the croanies in the DDDA…..they are not artists but civil servants masquerading as architects.The Dublin docks is assembling the most drabbest and featureless of modern architecture ….I only hope that I am proved wrong in the long run and we will have instead landmarks of high quality.
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November 7, 2000 at 4:17 pm #715188Rory WParticipant
Well what was proposed for Spencer Dock was hardly a “landmark of high quality” GregF.
The actual conference centre as designed by Roche is still unchanged.
Still hopefully they will do better that IFSC 1 & 2, it is a bit dull round here.
Rory W
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November 7, 2000 at 4:55 pm #715189GregFParticipant
That’s right Rory it was hardly a landmark of high quality…but I never said it was. The original Spencer Dock plan was overblown, overscaled and too corporate as we all know, but there was a slight hint of difference and optimism….now we may just get run of the mill offices typically found elsewhere throughout the city and suburban industrial estates. Scott Tallon & Walker are fine architects producing fine buildings ….Woodquay, City Bank,etc.. but looking at their portfolio especially their recent offerings, all their work looks the same ….no spark of difference or flair…. Richard Mier in a Catatonic state. It seem’s that with them having a monopoly in this area there won’t be even buildings to comment on or take note whether they be good or bad.
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November 7, 2000 at 6:00 pm #715190AnonymousParticipant
I wish i has seen this topic before i had put in my pennys worth into the ‘changing attitudes’ discussion board.
The 2 buildings shown on the photo (Paul’s) look even squatter than i remember them.
Still, i think there is a good mix of colour used in the two buildings and, a bit of contrast colour-wise between them (variation been the spice of Life)!
In referece to Jas comments about Scott Tallon Walker and their buildings been ‘acceptable’ to planners; Maybe there should be more ’round table’ pre-planning dicussions between architect-planner-client concerning what is acceptable/welcome, each other’s visions for the site and area etc.etc.
Or am i just being naive?
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November 8, 2000 at 11:27 am #715191Rory WParticipant
Actually with all the grey around phase 2 of the Ifsc makes me thing I am in a compacted version of Belfield.
On a serious note though, this is a pivitol site in the dublin Docklands and should be developed as something monumental, and not self effacing. Lets do something different. I loved the idea that Dunlow Ewart had for their Grand Canal site – but I dont know if that will go ahead given that they are selling that site and I don’t know if permission is given on it yet. I do worry that if Liam Carrol gets his paws on Dunlow Ewart that shite quality apartments (ha matchbox more like) on all their sites.
Rory W
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November 8, 2000 at 11:37 am #715192JasParticipant
Belfield — how true, thats exactly what it was, I wondered why it felt familiar.
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