reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches
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@Praxiteles wrote:
BUt the exterior of the Cathedral is mainly granite and lime-stone
Yes he mentions Limestone but does not refer to Granite
On St. Coleman’s Cathedral, Cobh we used nebula sprays to clean the limestone and it was a very successful method, as it caused no damage to the stone and the only thing that had to be watched very carefully was that saturation did not occur. This limestone has a very low porousity, so it has the ability to take the water through the joints and not absorb it into the body of the stone as most porous materials have. So care must be taken to ensure that the building itself doesn’t become saturated as part of the cleaning process. We also used nebula sprays in St. Coleman’s on the statuary and on the King’s Inns in Dublin to break down the heavy crusts on the stone. These were just nebula sprays of water used on timers which were immensely successful and it is not a costly way of cleaning buildings.
@Praxiteles wrote:
At the risk of appearing pseudo-intellectual for it, Praxiteles wishes to raise the question of slime – ecological slime that is!
WHen St. Colman’s Cathedral. Cobh, Co. Cork was “restored” some 15 years ago, the external walls were power -hosed and cleaned to a very white colour. Since then however the white hue has disappeared and been replaced by noticeable streks of what appears to be green slime on the West and South elevations of the building. On the North elevation a seemingly black slime has appeared and now covers extensives portons of the walls.
Can anyone explain what this is? What is the cause? And what remedies should be applied?
The architect in charge of the external restoration of Cobh Cathedral was Mr. David Slattery.
Talk to those in charge of Mundelein Seminary north of Chicago. Several years ago, the exterior walls and niches were cleaned. One of the chemicals used was so corrosive that it wiped the faces off several statues and left horrid marks on others.
New chemicals added in ferocious concentrations to salt and dirt in order to melt snow are eating away paths, walkways, and church squares in parishes throughout the northern regions of North America.
@Praxiteles wrote:
Asinus asino sus sui pulcher
Lupus pilum mutat sed non mores. (Suetonius citing a much older axiom)
Literal, pedestrian, unimaginative but accurate translation:
The wolf changes his fur, but not his character.Ye olde ICEL translacion (1970), using ye former principle of ‘dynamic equivalence:
The leopard does not change its spots.Al Gore: A zebra does not change its spots
@Praxiteles wrote:
BUt the exterior of the Cathedral is mainly granite and lime-stone
Today I passed the Cathredral and with the dampness of today the algae growth (if that is what it is) is much more pronounced. The North does not get much light so it looks very bad. I cannot say what was or wasn’t used as a cleaning agent in the Granite but it is far to say that much of what was thought in granite being tougher and less prone to cleaning damage, is now found to not be exactly true. The cleaning in past may now have the effect of patchy re-soiling. The whole area is quite complex
some interesting bumf from Scotland on web : http://www2.rgu.ac.uk/schools/mcrg/migran.htm
and http://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/stone98/stone98.htm
@Praxiteles wrote:
At the risk of appearing pseudo-intellectual for it, Praxiteles wishes to raise the question of slime – ecological slime that is!
When St. Colman’s Cathedral. Cobh, Co. Cork was “restored” some 15 years ago, the external walls were power -hosed and cleaned to a very white colour. Since then however the white hue has disappeared and been replaced by noticeable streks of what appears to be green slime on the West and South elevations of the building. On the North elevation a seemingly black slime has appeared and now covers extensives portons of the walls.
Can anyone explain what this is? What is the cause? And what remedies should be applied?
The architect in charge of the external restoration of Cobh Cathedral was Mr. David Slattery.
How could Rhabanus ever accuse Praxiteles of pseudo-intellectualism? Would you believe that I just recently came across a reference to slime in a quotation from Matt Walker’s Moths that Drink Elephant Tears and Other Zoological Curiosities (London: Portrait, 2006): ‘hagfish (Eptratetus stoutii) produce substantial amounts of slime when harassed’.
In reply to your query, then, Prax: have you been harassing the local hagfish in Cobh?
@Rhabanus wrote:
Lupus pilum mutat sed non mores. (Suetonius citing a much older axiom)
Literal, pedestrian, unimaginative but accurate translation:
The wolf changes his fur, but not his character.Ye olde ICEL translacion (1970), using ye former principal of ‘dynamic equivalence:
The leopard does not change its spots.Al Gore: A zebra does not change its spots
Vulpes pilum mutat, non mores
@samuel j wrote:
“At the risk of appearing pseudo-intellectual “
Nemo propheta in patria sua ……. heeeheeeee
Feels more like Cassandra….
@Rhabanus wrote:
How could Rhabanus ever accuse Praxiteles of pseudo-intellectualism? Would you believe that I just recently came across a reference to slime in a quotation from Matt Walker’s Moths that Drink Elephant Tears and Other Zoological Curiosities (London: Portrait, 2006): ‘hagfish (Eptratetus stoutii) produce substantial amounts of slime when harassed’.
In reply to your query, then, Prax: have you been harassing the local hagfish in Cobh?
No. Just a few awfully serious piper smokers in Cork!!
@Praxiteles wrote:
Feels more like Cassandra….
Excellent….
I know where I can get my hands on a wooden boat but horse..not so readily available.. so maybe you’ll be okay… have done many a voyage around the coast but to call it an Odyssey would be stretching it….
there again if Magoo takes up boating and starts wearing a toga we could be in deep water.@samuel j wrote:
Excellent….
I know where I can get my hands on a wooden boat but horse..not so readily available.. so maybe you’ll be okay… have done many a voyage around the coast but to call it an Odyssey would be stretching it….
there again if Magoo takes up boating and starts wearing a toga we could be in deep water.La Guerre de Troie…and all that…but, where is the face that launched the thousand ships that hid in the statio mala fide carinis ?
@Praxiteles wrote:
La Guerre de Troie…and all that…but, where is the face that launched the thousand ships that hid in the statio mala fide carinis ?
A few more marinas and we might be able to really claim “statio bene fide carinis”
Have had a hand in the launching of about 5 ships…..
@Praxiteles wrote:
La Guerre de Troie…and all that…but, where is the face that launched the thousand ships that hid in the statio mala fide carinis ?
That kisser is over in Carrigtwohill.
Some further examples of the slime problem affecting the exterior stone work of St. COlman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork. The architect responsible for the restoration of the external stone work of the Carhedral was Mr. David Slattery.
@Praxiteles wrote:
Some further examples of the slime problem affecting the exterior stone work of St. COlman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork. The architect responsible for the restoration of the external stone work of the Carhedral was Mr. David Slattery.
Ah – you can also see very clearly there the mess in the room above the baptistry..
@Praxiteles wrote:
Some more shots of the slime on the exterior stone-work at St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
I note from the last photo that Cobh needs a resident hawk to decimate the pigeon population. That should keep at least the statues clean.
@Rhabanus wrote:
I note from the last photo that Cobh needs a resident hawk to decimate the pigeon population. That should keep at least the statues clean.
Mass Resignation of St. Colman’s Maintenance Staff
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