reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches

Bishop Magee will be in a stronger position to encourage Greencore to honour its committments to its workforce at Mallow factory when he honours his very own committements and solemn promises to the people of Cobh concerning St. Colman’s Cathedral – otherwise, he runs the risk of sounding HOLLOW and it certainly is a bit rye for one of the most pig headed men in the country to call Greencore “intransigent”:

“Bishop intervenes on behalf of redundant sugar workers
Wednesday, December 6th

The Bishop of Cloyne, Dr John Magee, has called on Greencore to pay redundancy to its former workers according to the agreement it entered into in 2004.

In a statement issued from the Cloyne Diocesan Office yesterday, Bishop Magee said that he had recently met with a delegation of former workers from the Irish Sugar factory in Mallow, and had fully understood the facts of the case.

“I strongly endorse the Taoiseach’s statement in the D

@Praxiteles wrote:

I sometimes wonder about the moral justification of the bishop’s irreconcilable statements about plans for the interior of Cobh Cathedral which were documented at the Midleton oral hearing? Anyone attempting to occupy the high moral ground must be squeeky clean or else he runs the risk of being boomeranged by his own mouth!! Come to think of it, the bold bishop was not very interested in any form of “just and acceptable” conclusion to the Cobh Cathedral business as far as the FOSCC was concerned.

Come, now, Prax. The old routine is summed up pithily in the phrase, “The law is interpreted for our friends and applied to our enemies.” The bb likely knows this quite well and seems to have been playing the game for years, with varying degrees of success.

The plight of the families affected clearly must be redressed and full moral pressure brought to bear to convince the company to render them a proper settlement. Nevertheless, one may well question the choice of arbiters in this case. It would seem reasonable to tend someone else’s backyard only after you’ve put your own in order. And baptisteries, furthermore, seem to be rather a bishop’s front than his back yard.

@Rhabanus wrote:

Come, now, Prax.
The plight of the families affected clearly must be redressed and full moral pressure brought to bear to convince the company to render them a proper settlement. Nevertheless, one may well question the choice of arbiters in this case. It would seem reasonable to tend someone else’s backyard only after you’ve put your own in order. And baptisteries, furthermore, seem to be rather a bishop’s front than his back yard.

I am in perfect agreement that these people must have a just and proper settlement. All I was pointing out was that they were unlikely to advance that objective by having the bold bishop plead their cause.

@Rhabanus wrote:

“…he had little time left for trivial matters like the organising of sanding and varnishing of the cathedral doors.”

That is why rectors are appointed, at least in North America. I thought that in Europe the chapter of canons often attends to the fabric. Is there no chapter in Cloyne? Should the chapter not be involved in identifying competent architects, engineers and artisans who can maintain the fabric of the cathedral whilst the bishop immerses himself in feeding his flock on the meat of sound doctrine supplemented by the pastoral milk of human kindess?

Who has been looking after the loaves and fishes in Cloyne? The precedent tends in the direction of multiplying rather than dividing these.

Is the bishop not covering his own assets?

The present administrator in Cobh has done nothing about the fabric of the Cathedral. The last one was had some very strange ideas: such as nailing a brass bar to the sedilia and substituting for it a William IV dining chair of indifferent design -thinking, like Pucini’s little list, that it would not be missed. The one before that, Denis Reidy (current PP of Carrigtwohill) did maintian the fabric but was the main driving force behind the proposed wreckage of the interior. The last administrator to carry out the job properly was the one before him. Effectively, nothing has been done to maintain the fabric since the early 1990s.

As for the bold bishop covering assets……suffice it monosyllabically to pose the question!

Here are some more examples of the deplorable state of the interior of St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork.

The first picture shows part of the ornamental mosaic floor in the Lady Chapel on top of which several benches have been dumped since the Easterly orientation of the benches in the transepts was changed. Another example fo a knock on effect.

The second picture shows the ornamental mosaci floor of the corresponding chapel of the Sacred Heart which is also used as a dumping ground for bencehes, clutter and general rubbish.

@Fearg wrote:

You’d think they could at least put that stuff out of sight up in the triforum or other non public areas.. if they got the dividers up there, I’m sure they could do same with benches. i suppose they should really just reinstate them where intended!

The solution for the benches is quite simple: put them the way they were intended to be and in the places for which they were custom made!

@Rhabanus wrote:

Has anyone considered freezing his assets and cutting off his fringe benefits??

No. I would prefer to freeze his phylacteries !

@ake wrote:

!!!!!!!!!!!
Sacred Jesus!!!!!!! How could that be?!!! Makes me sick.sick sick sick. That must have been the finest church in Dublin. If only somebody could be punished.

The person to punish for the destruction of St. Saviour’s in Dominc Street, Dublin is the great guru Austin Flannery, OP.

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@ake wrote:

!!!!!!!!!!!
Sacred Jesus!!!!!!! How could that be?!!! Makes me sick.sick sick sick. That must have been the finest church in Dublin. If only somebody could be punished.

Ake, this was roughly my reaction to the debacle, as indicated much earlier on this thread. It took me a full week to recover from that revelation of the ‘before’ and ‘after’ photos of St Saviour’s Dominic Street. What a heart-breaker.

As for punishment, Prax informs us that this was the handiwork of Austin Flannery, O.P. (in)famous for his alleged translation of the Vatican II Conciliar and Post-Conciliar Documents. He flourished like the grass of the field in his day, as this type generally does.

But there is eternity to consider. St Alphonsus Liguori teaches that God in His mercy often gives the wicked a long and prosperous life in this world, because, knowing they will spend eternity away from His presence and suffering the everlasting torments of Hell, He postpones their misery and accords them much consolation in this life.

Nevertheless, it is difficult to resist your initial instinct to bring the knave to more immediate justice in this life as well.

As you can see from the results of St Saviour’s wreckovation, St Peter’s Belfast, the Catholic Cathedral of Armagh and other photos featured earlier on this thread, not to mention the current stirrings in Cobh, there is such a thing as UTTER SHAMELESSNESS. You have witnessed it.

Now you understand why the folks in Cobh prefer to apply PREVENTIVE medicine, providing of course that the cathedral there doesn’t collapse from the sheer insouciance of its administrators.