reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches
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- January 15, 2010 at 2:22 pm #773476
apelles
ParticipantMy thoughts & prayers at this time are for the people of Haiti.. the terrible images on the news showing the devastation of the earthquake & the suffering of so many people.
It makes ones concern about the restoring of a cathedral in Longford seem quite insignificant & futile…
Port-au-Prince Cathedral before the earthquake:

After the earthquake:
January 15, 2010 at 11:18 pm #773477justolongford
Participant@apelles wrote:
My thoughts & prayers at this time are for the people of Haiti.. the terrible images on the news showing the devastation of the earthquake & the suffering of so many people.
It makes ones concern about the restoring of a cathedral in Longford seem quite insignificant & futile…
Port-au-Prince Cathedral before the earthquake:

After the earthquake:

puts it in significance alright…. god bless and help these poor people
January 16, 2010 at 9:23 pm #773478Praxiteles
ParticipantThe arcade in Longford Cathedral:
January 16, 2010 at 9:31 pm #773479Praxiteles
ParticipantLongford Cathedral arcade:
January 16, 2010 at 9:33 pm #773480Praxiteles
ParticipantLongford Cathedral
remarkably, the Baptismal Font, rail and canopy appear to have survived the inferno:
January 16, 2010 at 9:39 pm #773481Praxiteles
ParticipantLongford Cathedral
This appears to be what is left of the mortuary chapel:
January 16, 2010 at 9:44 pm #773482Praxiteles
ParticipantLongford Cathedral





January 16, 2010 at 9:49 pm #773483Praxiteles
ParticipantLongford cathedral





January 16, 2010 at 10:12 pm #773484Praxiteles
ParticipantThe rood screen in St Mark’s in Venice:
January 17, 2010 at 1:01 pm #773485justolongford
Participantwhats the next step in the rebuilding of the cathedral? would the job have to be put to tender?or would they look at different designs, who would have the last call?
January 17, 2010 at 1:55 pm #773486apelles
ParticipantLetter from Bishop Colm
To the Priests and People of Ardagh & Clonmacnois
The fire that destroyed all but the portico, bell-tower and main walls of St Mel’s Cathedral has caused material damage which is, at this time, inestimable. The loss of so much of our Diocesan heritage is truly beyond the scope of any form of calculation. The pain caused by this tragic event is like a dagger in the heart of the Diocesan family. It has brought grief to many outside this circle too as is testified by the great volume of correspondence in the form of letters, emails, text messages and telephone calls that have come to Father Tom Healy Adm and to me. I want to add that some of the very kind messages received came from minsters of other faith communities, especially the Church of Ireland and the Methodists.
I am now writing the kind of letter that I never dreamt I would need to write. I must do so, since I wear a ring that Cardinal Tomás Ó Fiaich placed on my finger as a reminder that for my time as Bishop I am bound to the Diocesan family in a bond that, like marriage, is for good times and bad. I write this letter to acknowledge that we must stay together in this time of sorrow and bewilderment. I also write to bring some solace to the many who are quite truly heart-broken.
Firstly however, I must advert to the death of my predecessor, Cardinal Cahal B. Daly. He heard of the fire on Christmas Day and had left a message for me to return his call as soon as possible. I say with great sadness that hearing of the full extent of the damage done left him shattered. There is every likelihood that this news hastened his end. May his prayer for us help us through difficult days ahead and may the Lord reward him for his life of generous service, fifteen years of which were lived here.Since Christmas morning the priority for the priests and pastoral team in Longford has been provision of suitable accommodation for the needs of the Parish community. This is now being put together in a way that will be satisfactory for the time required to achieve the restoration of the cathedral. The cooperation of certain bodies has been readily forthcoming to enable us to make these provisions. I want to recognise the excellent level of support given to the Church by the Local Authority. I must acknowledge, in particular, the manner in which the Principal of St Mel’s College has cooperated with us in offering to make the School’s facilities available.
When the Gardaà completed their investigations into the cause of the fire, they declared it to be accidental. No precise cause for the fire has been identified as yet. Furthermore, I would like to add that all renovations and all ongoing maintenance on the fabric of the cathedral were carried out to the very best standards. The care with which the sacristan carried out his duties has been meticulous beyond praise. Whatever may have caused the fire let no one attach blame to the faithful stewards of St Mel’s Cathedral.
Once some degree of normality has been restored to the life of the Parish here in Longford it will be necessary to commence the serious work of planning for the restoration of our cathedral. I want to repeat in this letter the commitment that I have made as early as Christmas Day. St Mel’s Cathedral must be restored. To do otherwise would be unthinkable. Looking at the front of the cathedral now we still see its “grand porticoâ€, the iconic image well known to local people, visitors and passing traffic since its completion in 1893. I consider that we are blessed in the fact that the Cathedral façade looks as it did before the fire. I believe this view will continue to call us to press on with the work of restoration. No one can say how long that work will take but the best calculation suggests five years or so.
The main walls of the Cathedral are generally solid and safe. However, when restored its interior will inevitably have to look somewhat different from what we knew and admired so much. Yet I believe that its neoclassical elegance need not be lost. St. Mel’s Cathedral was the flagship of Irish cathedrals in its time and can again show the way forward in this new time when the Church seeks to be renewed and restored.
I write now to seek the support of the entire Diocese as we face a challenging task in the coming years. All that I am hearing about the reaction of people throughout the Diocese inspires confidence in me and gives great hope. You will be kept informed about the next steps that must be taken and more specific suggestions for ways in which the support we need can be given expression. I would expect that people with good judgment in design and in liturgical correctness will make constructive suggestions about what will be planned. Most importantly I ask for your prayers that we may all have the strength and the courage to face the future with hope.
Yours sincerely in Christ,
+ Colm O’Reilly
Bishop of Ardagh & ClonmacnoisJanuary 17, 2010 at 2:00 pm #773487apelles
ParticipantNEWS UPDATES FROM ST. MEL’S
15th January 2010 – 3 weeks on from the Christmas Day Fire
Staff from the National Museum of Ireland continue to sift through the debris from the Museum and have found various pieces in differing states of preservation. Among items recovered so far are the 13th Century copper Crozier from Limoges in France; the Wheery Bell originally found near the ruins of a monastery in Ferbane in Co. Offaly; and the Shrine of the Book of Fenagh which dates back to 1536. These have been cleaned and removed for safekeeping by the Museum staff. They will continue to search for other items over the weeks ahead. Work is ongoing at ensuring that all internal walls are sufficiently supported and in due course a temporary covering will be put in place to roof the Cathedral and protect the inside from the elements.
January 17, 2010 at 3:15 pm #773488apelles
ParticipantAnother excellent piece of video here from the highly informative Andrew Graham-Dixon…In this one hes managed to wangle his way into the Sistine Chapel of all places…How did he manage that?
January 17, 2010 at 3:34 pm #773489johnglas
ParticipantNow that the smoke has begun to clear from St Mel’s and we know it wasn’t arson, rather an ‘act of God’ (ironically), we need to plan for the furure. The remarkably erudite, calm and civilised letter from the Bishop of Ardagh and Clonmacnoise is a good starting point. However, this is a national, rather than local, loss and a national appeal for funds should be launched (yes, even in a recession); without a vision, the people perish, or just mope about.
The reconstruction should be used as a demonstration project in how to recover some of the lost (?) skills in building and decoration exemplified by the neo-classical and renaissance styles as in St Mel’s. There is no room here for any kind of modernist interpretation; it has to be a contemporary, but sympathetic, remodelling. As Prax says, worse could be done than looking at the work of Duncan Stroik and seeing that there is some life left (to put it mildly) in the neo-renaissance approach. However, even more valuably, the restoration could be undertaken on the ‘atelier’ or ‘chantier’ principle – dedicated craftspeople learning skills on the job (including local apprentices and trainees) and devoted entirely to this project over,say, five years. (FAS, are you listening?) The skills learned would be precious and transferable; there is,after all, a huge market in unwrecking many churches all over Ireland and beyond. Out of the disaster of St Mel’s could come some long-term good.January 17, 2010 at 5:57 pm #773490Praxiteles
ParticipantHere is an example of Stroik’s work in Santa Paola in California:
January 17, 2010 at 5:59 pm #773491Praxiteles
ParticipantStroik’s arcade in Santa Paola
January 17, 2010 at 6:00 pm #773492Praxiteles
ParticipantFrom the abve, the similarities with Longford Cathedral must be obvious.
January 17, 2010 at 6:01 pm #773493Praxiteles
ParticipantSanta Paola, California.
Side Aisle
January 17, 2010 at 6:04 pm #773494Praxiteles
ParticipantSanta Paola, california.
The exterior
January 17, 2010 at 6:06 pm #773495Praxiteles
ParticipantSanta Paola, California
The main entrance

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