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  • #771735
    Praxiteles
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    On the subject of glass by Harry Claeke, I forgot to mention that there is quite an extensive series of windows in St. Joseph’s Church Terenure, Dublin and another one in Carrigmacross parish church.

    #771736
    Praxiteles
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    Just got hold of the Four Courts Press recent publication of the papers of the 2005 conference on the Gothic revival and must congratulate all the contributors. There is paper on the Pierces of Wexford which is particularly interesting and very illuminating as to the development of the Pugin idiom throughout Co. Wexford by Pierce.

    #771737
    Praxiteles
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    To returen to the tradition of dressing churches for festive occsions or for the liturgical seasons, here is a view of the High Altar of St Peter’s in Rome decorated for the today’s feast of Sts Peter and Paul.

    #771738
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    And a close up of one of the reliquaries (this one of St Paul) placed on the Altar.

    #771739
    Rhabanus
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    @Praxiteles wrote:

    To returen to the tradition of dressing churches for festive occsions or for the liturgical seasons, here is a view of the High Altar of St Peter’s in Rome decorated for the today’s feast of Sts Peter and Paul.

    Note the new pallium being worn by the Pope. A return to the western form of the vestment. I detect the hermeneutic of continuity once again.

    #771740
    Radioactiveman
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    Can anybody hazard a guess as to where this is? I’ve got no information other than the image. Long shot I know.

    #771741
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    If I am not mistaken, this is the North Cathedral in Cork and is an excellent shot of the sanctuary before Boyd Barret wrecked it in 1962. It shows the reredos installed by the Pain Brothers in 1827 along with all of the statutes of teh 12 Apostles by Hogan – these were recently “rediscovered” during the last round of wreckage carried out by Richard Hurley who even went so far as to strip the [aint work from the pillars supporting the 1827 Pain Brothers ceiling.

    In another picture of the interior posted here some time ago, the large crucifix on the left was also visible. It was placed -follwoing the French tradition- opposite the pulpit. The arrangement can be clearly seen today in the church of St Sulpice in Paris for example. Also under teh crucifix is (if I am not wrong) that of Saint Anne – joint patron of the Cathedral.

    #771742
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    Some views of St. Paul’s Basilica in Rome showing the baldachino and the apse mosaic

    #771743
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    And the apse mosaic:

    #771744
    ake
    Participant

    @Praxiteles wrote:

    Ake!
    of Munich and display several of the typical historicizing vignettes to which Ake has alert our attention.

    Looking at the manner in which the stencilling abruptly ends when it reaches the nave walls, I am inclined to think that underneath the modern paint scheme one is likely to find further stencilling. The present contrast between the nave and sanctuary is far to abrupt to suggest that it is an original feature.

    but how would this come about? why would they leave the decoration in the sanctuary intact?

    #771745
    Praxiteles
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    @ake wrote:

    but how would this come about?

    The famous question asked at the beginning of St. Luke’s infancy narrative! the only answer I can give is MYSTERY. It is sometimes a very misleading to assume the rational!!

    #771746
    james1852
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    @ake wrote:

    but how would this come about? why would they leave the decoration in the sanctuary intact?

    This was actually quite a common practice unfortunatly, and there are many examples like this throughout the country. When churches decided to obliterate the ornate stencilwork of the 19th and early 20th century, some luckily retained the decoration in the sanctuary area either on the ceiling or walls. This may have been done as a concession to those who opposed the plain painting of the church or it may have been done for monetry reasons when the cost of complete redecoration may have been prohibitive.

    #771747
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    Mystery resolved

    #771748
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    Well, it looks as though Cork City Council has obliged Bank of Ireland with permission to build a glass box opposite St. Peter and PAul’s in the City Centre. This will be an interesting one and another example of a glass box being erected in the siting of a primary protected structure in Cork. The other being next door to St. MAry’s Pope’s Quay.

    #771749
    ake
    Participant

    any graphics of that?

    #771750
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    The file is available on the Cork City Council web page along with plans etc.

    #771751
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Holy Cross before restoration.

    The Building News, Dec.18th. 1891
    Drawn by Samuel P. Close A.R.I.A.I. Architect

    #771752
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    What a very interesting posting on Holy Cross abbey.

    #771753
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    In Four Courts Press recent book on the Gothis Revival in Ireland there is an very interesting article on the development of St. Peter’s Phibsborough written by Chhristine Casey. It gives a fairly in depth account of the long building history of the church together with the architects involved: the early quasi unknown architect of the first Gothic church, Goldie, and Ashlin and Colman. Curprisingly, her iconography is a little shakey here and there: e.g. the refernce to the Tiara and Crossed Keys which should have been surprising in a church dedicated to St. Peter since both represent papal authority conveyed to St Peter by Christ and transmitted to his successors (which might have ad a conpemporary baring on matters in the 19th century given the position of the papacy in the Piemontine state subsequent to 1870). Also, a reference to an “Altare Priviligatum” expresses no particular connection with the Holy See since the “priviligatum” attached to Masses said at that altar which attracted (under certain coircumstances) an indulgence applicaple to the faithful departed. Such purgatorial priviliges were widespread.

    #771754
    ake
    Participant

    @Paul Clerkin wrote:

    Holy Cross before restoration.

    The Building News, Dec.18th. 1891
    Drawn by Samuel P. Close A.R.I.A.I. Architect

    lovely

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