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  • #771475
    Rhabanus
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    Milan boasts the largest Gothic cathedral in the world. One of its more unusual attractions, aside from its impressive Gothic facade, is the Nivola, a mechanical cloud in which the archbishop or another prelate ascends to heaven in order to bring down to earth the relic of the Holy Nail now ensconced in a cruciform reliquary.

    These links explain the tradition of the Nivola and give the viewer an excellent picture of what the machine is, how it functions, and what the cathedral looks like from the Nivola.

    Should the FOSCC order one for St Colman’s, Cobh – to be installed in the south transept once the roof of the south aisle ever gets repaired? A collection ought to be taken up in order to send a Nivola to Bogota – that theatre by Bonillo certainly could stand a Deus ex machina.

    http://events.skyteam.com/sisp/skyteam/?fx=event&event_id=29881

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tltSKwNUjYc&feature=user

    Rhabanus wishes all prelates a safe and happy landing in the Nivola.

    #771476
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    @Rhabanus wrote:

    Milan boasts the largest Gothic cathedral in the world. One of its more unusual attractions, aside from its impressive Gothic facade, is the Nivola, a mechanical cloud in which the archbishop or another prelate ascends to heaven in order to bring down to earth the relic of the Holy Nail now ensconced in a cruciform reliquary.

    These links explain the tradition of the Nivola and give the viewer an excellent picture of what the machine is, how it functions, and what the cathedral looks like from the Nivola.

    Should the FOSCC order one for St Colman’s, Cobh – to be installed in the south transept once the roof of the south aisle ever gets repaired? A collection ought to be taken up in order to send a Nivola to Bogota – that theatre by Bonillo certainly could stand a Deus ex machina.

    http://events.skyteam.com/sisp/skyteam/?fx=event&event_id=29881

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tltSKwNUjYc&feature=user

    Rhabanus wishes all prelates a safe and happy landing in the Nivola.

    Ah! The Visconti. Nice to see they are still around in Milan.

    #771477
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    Here is an interesting and worthwhile project: to photograph and record every church spire and tower in France:

    http://www.40000clochers.com/Visite.asp

    #771478
    ake
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    #771479
    descamps
    Participant

    Monday’s meeting of Cobh Town Council brought to light some developments on the Cathedral saga. Replying to questions on the works now going on in the Cathedral, Town Council officials confirmed that they had received a letter from the Church authorities saying that the services of architect Professor Cathal O’Neill had been dispensed with. A local firm of architects have been hired by the Steering committee to look at the maintenance questions facing the Cathedral fabric.

    #771480
    samuel j
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    @descamps wrote:

    Monday’s meeting of Cobh Town Council brought to light some developments on the Cathedral saga. Replying to questions on the works now going on in the Cathedral, Town Council officials confirmed that they had received a letter from the Church authorities saying that the services of architect Professor Cathal O’Neill had been dispensed with. A local firm of architects have been hired by the Steering committee to look at the maintenance questions facing the Cathedral fabric.

    Weehee……:D

    #771481
    Praxiteles
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    The departure of the Mies-wreckovator is certainly good news and likely to leave Cobh Cathedral in a much safer position- However, we are not yet out of the woods. We have to find out who the new architect is and where he is coming from before giving full approval to him. No doubt teh FOSCC will be on to this one fairly quickly. The situation could also be improved by a few more resignations from the Steering committee and the abolition of the Cloyne HACK.

    #771482
    Rhabanus
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    @Praxiteles wrote:

    The departure of the Mies-wreckovator is certainly good news and likely to leave Cobh Cathedral in a much safer position- However, we are not yet out of the woods. We have to find out who the new architect is and where he is coming from before giving full approval to him. No doubt teh FOSCC will be on to this one fairly quickly. The situation could also be improved by a few more resignations from the Steering committee and the abolition of the Cloyne HACK.

    The sooner the Cloyne HACK dissolves, the better. Hear! Hear! to more resignations from the Steering committee. A few of the more sclerotic ideologues on that illustrious body seem embalmed in their own opinions. Let’s hear from some more vital and common-sensed members of the Cloyne ecclesial community.

    God be with the FOSCC!

    #771483
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    Indeed!

    #771484
    ake
    Participant

    Here’s an interesting church; Kilrossanty Parish church, in Co.Waterford at the foot of the Comeraghs. Built c 1840. The roof, I don’t know if it’s original, is interesting. The diocese website says the church was ‘reroofed’ in the 1990’s.

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    #771485
    Praxiteles
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    That pink colour is most unfortunate.

    Would one be correct in saying that the windows are by Watsons of Youghal and date from the 1950s/1960s?

    #771486
    Rhabanus
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    @Praxiteles wrote:

    That pink colour is most unfortunate.

    Would one be correct in saying that the windows are by Watsons of Youghal and date from the 1950s/1960s?

    Unfortunate, too, is the style of the light fixtures or globes. Domestic rather than ecclesiastical.

    Note the statue standing forlornly on the table beneath the sanctuary lamp, just outside the sanctuary. Is it the Immaculata?

    What are the green squares on the wall of the Epistle side of the sanctuary?

    What might have been in the three arches above the window in the south transept?

    Any photos of the church “in younger and happier days”? Ireland was particularly good about recording the glory of her churches.

    #771487
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    Can anyone confirm that the local firm engaged to carry out the maintenance work in Cobh Cathedral is Murhy-O’Connor?

    #771488
    ake
    Participant

    @Rhabanus wrote:

    Unfortunate, too, is the style of the light fixtures or globes. Domestic rather than ecclesiastical.

    Note the statue standing forlornly on the table beneath the sanctuary lamp, just outside the sanctuary. Is it the Immaculata?

    What are the green squares on the wall of the Epistle side of the sanctuary?

    What might have been in the three arches above the window in the south transept?

    Any photos of the church “in younger and happier days”? Ireland was particularly good about recording the glory of her churches.

    The lights are terrible, as usual. The green squares are children’s drawings, what else.

    #771489
    Rhabanus
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    @ake wrote:

    The lights are terrible, as usual. The green squares are children’s drawings, what else.

    Thanks. I was afraid of that!

    Can you identify that statue? Is it the Sacred Heart or perhaps the Immaculata?

    Clearly it has no real place in the church building, hence it is just plunked down on that table beneath the sanctuary lamp.

    #771490
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Church of Ireland launches stained glass database
    Archiseek / Ireland / News / 2008 / April 23

    A new database recording stained glass windows in Church of Ireland churches will be launched next Monday at the Irish Architectural Archive. Named ‘Gloine’ (glass), the new database will allow users to search for windows by church or architect’s name, geographical location, names of stained glass artists and studios, dates, religious subject-matter and other categories.

    http://ireland.archiseek.com/news/2008/000118.html

    #771491
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    Re: Glaoine

    Vol. X of irish Architectural and Decorative Studies has a very informative article by David Lawrence on Nineteenth-century Stained Glass in the Church of Ireland Diocese of Limerick and Killaloe. It gives a detailed analysis of the development of 19th century glass as represented in this geographic area. I take it all of the wonderful examples he mentions are included in the database.

    WIll it be possible to access the data base over the web? That would be a great advantage.

    Also to be noted in the above mentioned article are Dr. lawrence’s occasional comments which make it quite clear that the kind of rekovation we we have seen umpteem examples of here has also been in operation in Anglican churches in the Limerick Killaloe diocese.

    #771492
    ake
    Participant

    @Paul Clerkin wrote:

    Church of Ireland launches stained glass database
    Archiseek / Ireland / News / 2008 / April 23

    A new database recording stained glass windows in Church of Ireland churches will be launched next Monday at the Irish Architectural Archive. Named ‘Gloine’ (glass), the new database will allow users to search for windows by church or architect’s name, geographical location, names of stained glass artists and studios, dates, religious subject-matter and other categories.

    http://ireland.archiseek.com/news/2008/000118.html

    sounds great

    #771493
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    Speaking of glass, would anyone hav any idea about research material for the stained glass company of Watsons of Youghal, Co. Cork?

    #771494
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    From yesterday’s olim Cork Exanuner an account of what has happened to JJ. McCarthy’s spire at St. Peter and Paul’s church Kilmallock, Co. Limerick.

    http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2008/04/25/story61137.asp

    The problem of mounting antennae onto church spires comes before An Bord Pleannala frequerntly enough thath we can consider this another blight on the country’s ecclesiastical patrimony.

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