reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches
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- April 15, 2008 at 3:00 am #771475
Rhabanus
ParticipantMilan boasts the largest Gothic cathedral in the world. One of its more unusual attractions, aside from its impressive Gothic facade, is the Nivola, a mechanical cloud in which the archbishop or another prelate ascends to heaven in order to bring down to earth the relic of the Holy Nail now ensconced in a cruciform reliquary.
These links explain the tradition of the Nivola and give the viewer an excellent picture of what the machine is, how it functions, and what the cathedral looks like from the Nivola.
Should the FOSCC order one for St Colman’s, Cobh – to be installed in the south transept once the roof of the south aisle ever gets repaired? A collection ought to be taken up in order to send a Nivola to Bogota – that theatre by Bonillo certainly could stand a Deus ex machina.
http://events.skyteam.com/sisp/skyteam/?fx=event&event_id=29881
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tltSKwNUjYc&feature=user
Rhabanus wishes all prelates a safe and happy landing in the Nivola.
April 15, 2008 at 7:19 am #771476Praxiteles
Participant@Rhabanus wrote:
Milan boasts the largest Gothic cathedral in the world. One of its more unusual attractions, aside from its impressive Gothic facade, is the Nivola, a mechanical cloud in which the archbishop or another prelate ascends to heaven in order to bring down to earth the relic of the Holy Nail now ensconced in a cruciform reliquary.
These links explain the tradition of the Nivola and give the viewer an excellent picture of what the machine is, how it functions, and what the cathedral looks like from the Nivola.
Should the FOSCC order one for St Colman’s, Cobh – to be installed in the south transept once the roof of the south aisle ever gets repaired? A collection ought to be taken up in order to send a Nivola to Bogota – that theatre by Bonillo certainly could stand a Deus ex machina.
http://events.skyteam.com/sisp/skyteam/?fx=event&event_id=29881
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tltSKwNUjYc&feature=user
Rhabanus wishes all prelates a safe and happy landing in the Nivola.
Ah! The Visconti. Nice to see they are still around in Milan.
April 15, 2008 at 9:24 am #771477Praxiteles
ParticipantHere is an interesting and worthwhile project: to photograph and record every church spire and tower in France:
April 15, 2008 at 8:18 pm #771478ake
Participantre The Twin Churches of Wexford;
some detailed info ;
http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/Surveys/Buildings/BuildingoftheMonth/
That links here;
http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=record&county=WX®no=15505043
April 16, 2008 at 8:42 am #771479descamps
ParticipantMonday’s meeting of Cobh Town Council brought to light some developments on the Cathedral saga. Replying to questions on the works now going on in the Cathedral, Town Council officials confirmed that they had received a letter from the Church authorities saying that the services of architect Professor Cathal O’Neill had been dispensed with. A local firm of architects have been hired by the Steering committee to look at the maintenance questions facing the Cathedral fabric.
April 16, 2008 at 9:00 am #771480samuel j
Participant@descamps wrote:
Monday’s meeting of Cobh Town Council brought to light some developments on the Cathedral saga. Replying to questions on the works now going on in the Cathedral, Town Council officials confirmed that they had received a letter from the Church authorities saying that the services of architect Professor Cathal O’Neill had been dispensed with. A local firm of architects have been hired by the Steering committee to look at the maintenance questions facing the Cathedral fabric.
Weehee……:D
April 16, 2008 at 9:19 am #771481Praxiteles
ParticipantThe departure of the Mies-wreckovator is certainly good news and likely to leave Cobh Cathedral in a much safer position- However, we are not yet out of the woods. We have to find out who the new architect is and where he is coming from before giving full approval to him. No doubt teh FOSCC will be on to this one fairly quickly. The situation could also be improved by a few more resignations from the Steering committee and the abolition of the Cloyne HACK.
April 16, 2008 at 8:59 pm #771482Rhabanus
Participant@Praxiteles wrote:
The departure of the Mies-wreckovator is certainly good news and likely to leave Cobh Cathedral in a much safer position- However, we are not yet out of the woods. We have to find out who the new architect is and where he is coming from before giving full approval to him. No doubt teh FOSCC will be on to this one fairly quickly. The situation could also be improved by a few more resignations from the Steering committee and the abolition of the Cloyne HACK.
The sooner the Cloyne HACK dissolves, the better. Hear! Hear! to more resignations from the Steering committee. A few of the more sclerotic ideologues on that illustrious body seem embalmed in their own opinions. Let’s hear from some more vital and common-sensed members of the Cloyne ecclesial community.
God be with the FOSCC!
April 18, 2008 at 11:01 am #771483Praxiteles
ParticipantIndeed!
April 19, 2008 at 9:53 am #771484ake
ParticipantHere’s an interesting church; Kilrossanty Parish church, in Co.Waterford at the foot of the Comeraghs. Built c 1840. The roof, I don’t know if it’s original, is interesting. The diocese website says the church was ‘reroofed’ in the 1990’s.
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April 19, 2008 at 10:40 am #771485Praxiteles
ParticipantThat pink colour is most unfortunate.
Would one be correct in saying that the windows are by Watsons of Youghal and date from the 1950s/1960s?
April 20, 2008 at 12:32 am #771486Rhabanus
Participant@Praxiteles wrote:
That pink colour is most unfortunate.
Would one be correct in saying that the windows are by Watsons of Youghal and date from the 1950s/1960s?
Unfortunate, too, is the style of the light fixtures or globes. Domestic rather than ecclesiastical.
Note the statue standing forlornly on the table beneath the sanctuary lamp, just outside the sanctuary. Is it the Immaculata?
What are the green squares on the wall of the Epistle side of the sanctuary?
What might have been in the three arches above the window in the south transept?
Any photos of the church “in younger and happier days”? Ireland was particularly good about recording the glory of her churches.
April 21, 2008 at 10:36 pm #771487Praxiteles
ParticipantCan anyone confirm that the local firm engaged to carry out the maintenance work in Cobh Cathedral is Murhy-O’Connor?
April 22, 2008 at 12:51 pm #771488ake
Participant@Rhabanus wrote:
Unfortunate, too, is the style of the light fixtures or globes. Domestic rather than ecclesiastical.
Note the statue standing forlornly on the table beneath the sanctuary lamp, just outside the sanctuary. Is it the Immaculata?
What are the green squares on the wall of the Epistle side of the sanctuary?
What might have been in the three arches above the window in the south transept?
Any photos of the church “in younger and happier days”? Ireland was particularly good about recording the glory of her churches.
The lights are terrible, as usual. The green squares are children’s drawings, what else.
April 22, 2008 at 3:16 pm #771489Rhabanus
Participant@ake wrote:
The lights are terrible, as usual. The green squares are children’s drawings, what else.
Thanks. I was afraid of that!
Can you identify that statue? Is it the Sacred Heart or perhaps the Immaculata?
Clearly it has no real place in the church building, hence it is just plunked down on that table beneath the sanctuary lamp.
April 23, 2008 at 2:36 am #771490Paul Clerkin
KeymasterChurch of Ireland launches stained glass database
Archiseek / Ireland / News / 2008 / April 23A new database recording stained glass windows in Church of Ireland churches will be launched next Monday at the Irish Architectural Archive. Named ‘Gloine’ (glass), the new database will allow users to search for windows by church or architect’s name, geographical location, names of stained glass artists and studios, dates, religious subject-matter and other categories.
April 23, 2008 at 6:42 pm #771491Praxiteles
ParticipantRe: Glaoine
Vol. X of irish Architectural and Decorative Studies has a very informative article by David Lawrence on Nineteenth-century Stained Glass in the Church of Ireland Diocese of Limerick and Killaloe. It gives a detailed analysis of the development of 19th century glass as represented in this geographic area. I take it all of the wonderful examples he mentions are included in the database.
WIll it be possible to access the data base over the web? That would be a great advantage.
Also to be noted in the above mentioned article are Dr. lawrence’s occasional comments which make it quite clear that the kind of rekovation we we have seen umpteem examples of here has also been in operation in Anglican churches in the Limerick Killaloe diocese.
April 23, 2008 at 7:31 pm #771492ake
Participant@Paul Clerkin wrote:
Church of Ireland launches stained glass database
Archiseek / Ireland / News / 2008 / April 23A new database recording stained glass windows in Church of Ireland churches will be launched next Monday at the Irish Architectural Archive. Named ‘Gloine’ (glass), the new database will allow users to search for windows by church or architect’s name, geographical location, names of stained glass artists and studios, dates, religious subject-matter and other categories.
sounds great
April 24, 2008 at 8:23 pm #771493Praxiteles
ParticipantSpeaking of glass, would anyone hav any idea about research material for the stained glass company of Watsons of Youghal, Co. Cork?
April 26, 2008 at 6:51 am #771494Praxiteles
ParticipantFrom yesterday’s olim Cork Exanuner an account of what has happened to JJ. McCarthy’s spire at St. Peter and Paul’s church Kilmallock, Co. Limerick.
http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2008/04/25/story61137.asp
The problem of mounting antennae onto church spires comes before An Bord Pleannala frequerntly enough thath we can consider this another blight on the country’s ecclesiastical patrimony.
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