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  • #771055
    Praxiteles
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    Here is an image of Cologne Cathedral taken sometime after the bombing of the city in 1942 (the beginning of the British campaign, led by Bomber Harris, of terrorizing the civilian population by bombing them). In the lower centre, you can also see the remains of the the Maria Himmelfhart Church in total ruins. The bombaing campaign also destroyed many of the romaesque churches in the city -not all of which were rebuilt after thaw, including the St. Columba which one housed van der Weyden’s famous Columba Altar (now in the Alte Pinakoteka in Munich). Fortunately, the Cathedral survived more or less intact – but losing all of the glass donated in the 19th century by William of Prussia.

    #771056
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    Here is something to take the wind out of the sails of the iconoclasts who want to knock down every set of altar rails in the country:

    Ranjith on Kneeling for Communion during the liturgy and Communion on the Tongue
    posted by Shawn Tribe

    Libreria Editrice Vaticana has published a book, Dominus Est by Bishop Athanasius Schneider (of Karaganda in Kazakstan), where that Bishop analyzes the question of communion recieved kneeling and on the tongue.

    Archbishop Malcolm Ranjith has written the foreward to this book, which the NLM is happy to present an unofficial translation here to follow. (Many thanks to a good friend of the NLM for providing the link to this, which came originally through, Associazione Luci sull’Est.

    Without further ado, the foreword of Msgr. Ranjith, Secretary to the CDW:

    In the Book of Revelation, St. John tells how he had seen and heard what was revealed and prostrated [himself] in adoration at the foot of the angel of God (cf. Rev 22, 8). Prostrating, or getting down one one’s knees before the majesty of the presence of God in humble adoration, was a habit of reverence that Israel brought constantly to the presence of the Lord. It says the first book of Kings, “when Solomon had finished putting this prayer to the Lord and this plea, he stood up before the altar of the Lord, where he was kneeling, with palms stretched heavenward, and blessed the whole assembly of Israel “(1 King 8, 54-55). The position of supplication of the King is clear: He was kneeling in front of the altar.

    The same tradition is also visible in the New Testament where we see Peter get on his knees before Jesus (cf. Lk 5, 8); when Jairus asked him to heal her daughter (Luke 8, 41), when the Samaritan returned to thank him, and when Mary the sister of Lazarus asked for the life of her brother (John 11, 32). The same attitude of prostration before the revelation of the divine presence and is generally known in the Book of Revelation (Rev. 5, 8, 14 and 19, 4).

    Closely linked to this tradition was the conviction that the Holy Temple in Jerusalem was the dwelling place of God and therefore, in the temple it was necessary to prepare one’s disposition by corporal expression, a deep sense of humility and reverence in the presence of the Lord.

    Even in the Church, the deep conviction that in the Eucharistic species the Lord is truly and really present, along with the growing practice of preserving the Holy Sacrament in tabernacles, contributed to practice of kneeling in an attitude of humble adoration of the Lord in the Eucharist.

    […]

    …faith in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharistic species already belonged to the essence of the faith of the Catholic Church and was an intrinsic part of Catholicism. It was clear that we could not build up the Church if that faith was minimally affected.

    Therefore, the Eucharist, bread transubstantiated in Body of Christ and wine into the Blood of Christ, God among us, is to be greeted with wonder, reverence and an immense attitude of humble adoration. Pope Benedict XVI… points out that “receiving the Eucharist means adoring him whom we receive […] only in adoration can a profound and genuine reception mature.”(Sacramentum Caritatis 66).

    Following this tradition, it is clear that it became coherent and indispensable to take actions and attitudes of the body and spirit which makes it easier to [enter into] silence, recollection, and the humble acceptance of our poverty in the face of the infinite greatness and holiness of the One who comes to meet us in the Eucharistic species. The best way to express our sense of reverence to the Lord in Mass is to follow the example of Peter, who as the Gospel tells us, threw himself on his knees before the Lord and said, ‘Lord, depart from me, for I am a sinner ” (Luke 5, 8).

    As we see in some churches now, this practice is decreasing and those responsible not only require that the faithful should receive the Holy Eucharist standing, but even eliminate all kneelers forcing the faithful to sit or stand, even during the elevation and adoration of the [Sacred] Species. It is ironic that such measures have been taken in [some] dioceses by those responsible for liturgy, or in churches, by pastors, without even the smallest amount of consultation of the faithful, even though today, more than ever, there is an environment desiring democracy in the Church.

    At the same time, speaking of communion in the hand, it must be recognized that the practice was improperly and quickly introduced in some quarters of the Church shortly after the Council, changing the age-old practice and becoming regular practice for the whole Church. They justified the change saying that it better reflected the Gospel or the ancient practice of the Church… Some, to justify this practice referred to the words of Jesus: “Take and eat” (Mk 14, 22; Mt 26, 26).

    Whatever the reasons for this practice, we cannot ignore what is happening worldwide where this practice has been implemented. This gesture has contributed to a gradual weakening of the attitude of reverence towards the sacred Eucharistic species whereas the previous practice had better safeguarded that sense of reverence. There instead arose an alarming lack of recollection and a general spirit of carelessness. We see communicants who often return to their seats as if nothing extraordinary has happened… In many cases, one cannot discern that sense of seriousness and inner silence that must signal the presence of God in the soul.

    Then there are those who take away the sacred species to keep them as souvenirs, those who sell, or worse yet, who take them away to desecrate it in Satanic rituals. Even in large concelebrations, also in Rome, several times the sacred species has been found thrown onto the ground.

    This situation not only leads us to reflect upon a serious loss of faith, but also on outrageous offenses…

    The Pope speaks of the need not only to understand the true and deep meaning of the Eucharist, but also to celebrate it with dignity and reverence. He says that we must be aware of “gestures and posture, such as kneeling during the central moments of the Eucharistic Prayer.” (Sacramentum Caritatis, 65). Also, speaking about the reception of the Holy Communion he invites everyone to “make every effort to ensure that this simple act preserves its importance as a personal encounter with the Lord Jesus Christ in the sacrament.” (Sacramentum Caritatis, 50).

    In this vein, the book written by Bishop Athanasius Schneider, Auxiliary Bishop of Karaganda in Kazakhstan entitled Dominus Est is significant and appreciated. He wants to make a contribution to the current debate on the real and substantial presence of Christ in the consecrated species of bread and wine… from his experience, which aroused in him a deep faith, wonder and devotion to the Lord present in the Eucharist, he presents us with a historical-theological [consideration] clarifying how the practice of receiving Holy Communion on the tonue and kneeling has been accepted and practiced in the Church for a long period of time.

    Now I think it is high time to review and re-evaluate such good practices and, if necessary, to abandon the current practice that was not called for by Sacrosanctum Concilium, nor by Fathers, but was only accepted after its illegitimate introduction in some countries. Now, more than ever, we must help the faithful to renew a deep faith in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharistic species in order to strengthen the life of the Church and defend it in the midst of dangerous distortions of the faith that this situation continues to cause.

    The reasons for this move must be not so much academic but pastoral – spiritual as well as liturgical – in short, what builds better faith. Mons. Msgr. Schneider in this sense shows a commendable courage because he has been able to grasp the true meaning of the words of St. Paul: “but everything should be done for building up” (1 Cor 14, 26).

    MALCOLM RANJITH
    Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship

    Posted by Shawn Tribe on 27.1.08 Comments (13) | Trackback

    #771057
    johnglas
    Participant

    We are always astonished – even rendered gobsmacked on occasion – by Praxiteles’ erudition, but this is an architecture site and no place for extended quotes of ecclesiastical arcana, however argued. What is the point of Ranjith’s paper from the perspective of church architecture/design? That you should retain altar rails? (Absolutely.) But if that is the point, then say so; don’t fill the site with what is in the end a snippet of very arcane discussion.

    #771058
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    @johnglas wrote:

    We are always astonished – even rendered gobsmacked on occasion – by Praxiteles’ erudition, but this is an architecture site and no place for extended quotes of ecclesiastical arcana, however argued. What is the point of Ranjith’s paper from the perspective of church architecture/design? That you should retain altar rails? (Absolutely.) But if that is the point, then say so; don’t fill the site with what is in the end a snippet of very arcane discussion.

    I am afraid it is not so very arcane when the liturgical iconoclasts assert without the slightest foundation that e.g. altar rails -of no matter what artistic merit – are to be ripped out of every church inetrior in the country.

    If you will forgive my saying so, it seems to me that the detcahed-isolated disciplinary approach to architecture is exactly what has has landed us in the dudu with regard to church architecture in Ireland. Complete detachment from what some regard as theological arcana have resulted in the likes of Longford Cathedral, Monaghan, KIllarney, Armagh etc. and in nonsense of Drumaroad. The point of alerting interested parties in recently published material touching on church art or architecture is some small efforts to re-contextualize ecclesiastical architecture.

    The problem is even more complicted when it comes to the planning departments of many of th country’s local authorities. Not only have we the crux of the the detached disciplinary approach to architecture to cope with, but, as was the case with Mr Heffernan in the Cobh Cathedral case, we have to contend with decisions being amde by persons who have not the slightest idea of anything to do with Western ecclesiastical art or architecture, their sources, the canon of articulations they have gone through, nor even a basic general knowledge of this entire area -as was admitted on paper by the gentleman assessing the case of Cobh Cathedral.

    #771059
    johnglas
    Participant

    Praxilteles – I have no argument with what you are saying and the failure of architects and planners to have a genuinely holistic and integrated approach to their profession is well known. Here, ‘context’ is everything and my point is merely that a summary of Ranjith’s paper (or reference to it) would have been enough. The mission of this thread to attempt to get a debate going on this important subject is admirable. Form should certainly follow function, but what is the ‘function’ of a church? -more than the ‘gathering space’ so beloved of many ‘modern’ (=’contemporary’, = ‘trendy’?) apologists. Until the last liturgist is strangled with the entrails of the last canon lawyer, we are unlikely to see a change in mindset. I share your horror at Drumaroad – what did this inoffensive rural community do to deserve this?

    #771060
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    @johnglas wrote:

    Praxilteles – I have no argument with what you are saying and the failure of architects and planners to have a genuinely holistic and integrated approach to their profession is well known. Here, ‘context’ is everything and my point is merely that a summary of Ranjith’s paper (or reference to it) would have been enough. The mission of this thread to attempt to get a debate going on this important subject is admirable. Form should certainly follow function, but what is the ‘function’ of a church? -more than the ‘gathering space’ so beloved of many ‘modern’ (=’contemporary’, = ‘trendy’?) apologists. Until the last liturgist is strangled with the entrails of the last canon lawyer, we are unlikely to see a change in mindset. I share your horror at Drumaroad – what did this inoffensive rural community do to deserve this?

    Well, I am glad that I do not have to bat for the basic proposition advocated by one’s self on this thread – at least, as would appear, from Johnglas’ comments. I do take your point that a summary or even link to some of this material would perhaps be better -at time, at least – but, Praxiteles is a busy at present and has to move quickly to cover the ground -so apologies on that score. Praxiteles does think that it is very important to point the general reader to the ever increasing number of professional publications -embracing a gamut of specialized areas – that make it perfectly clear taht what is peddled by the insular, narrowminded, and ultimately, ignorant liturgical “establishment” in this country is utter codswollop.

    I am all for strangling liturgists -preferably garotting them – but with the entrails, not of canonists (who assure or should assure an ecclesiastical Rechtsgeschellschaft) but with those of “liturgical consultants” who, for the most part, are charlatain pedlars of crass ignorance.

    But, to quote a famous line, what needs to be done to arrive at an integrated approach to ecclesiastical architecture or even architecture in general?

    #771061
    Fearg
    Participant

    @johnglas wrote:

    I share your horror at Drumaroad – what did this inoffensive rural community do to deserve this?

    Update on Drumaroad – apparently the church has been temporarily reordered along the west/east axis using the existing furnishings. However, a more appropriate altar has been sourced and the parish priest is currently working to have this installed..

    #771062
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    @Fearg wrote:

    Update on Drumaroad – apparently the church has been temporarily reordered along the west/east axis using the existing furnishings. However, a more appropriate altar has been sourced and the parish priest is currently working to have this installed..

    Well, finally a Parish Priest who is not prepared to have the wool pulled over his head by a crowd of lunatics. Can we hope that he will also unburden himself of that hoplessly eccentric thing that caricatures a tabernacle?

    #771063
    ake
    Participant

    St.Saviours Dominican, Waterford, discussed earlier

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    c1900 and today

    large version of after shot; http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2136072998&context=set-72157600277832250&size=l

    #771064
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    And here we have some information on Drumaroad church:

    http://www.drumaroadhistory.com/drumaroadhistory7.html

    #771065
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    In 1975 the Ulster Architectural Heritage Society lists Drumaroad Church as a ‘Class A’ building. P. J. Rankin describes Drumaroad Church as:

    “Interior: a nice bright plain building with warm coloured low pine bench-pews with trefoil-pierced backs and a nicely shaped top rail. Pine ceiling. All plain and unpretentious. Stations of the Cross in Gothic pine frames. Plain stone arcaded altar rail, white marble top with column shafts in green and red marble alternately, handsome brass gates. Altar is of plain rectangular shapes with Sienna marble insets, pleasant; simple statues and flowers on either side; all set in a shallow Tudor arch. Beautifully kept churchyard, treated like a garden, yews, and other shrubs and small trees at the end of nicely cut lawns and undulating grass: the old church hall is in one corner.”

    You would be very hard put to find anything of this description after the last assault on the church’s interior.

    #771066
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    There is a lecture coming up at School of Architecture DIT that might of interest.
    Free lecture (open to the public).

    Wednesday February 27 2008 5.00pm Room 259, DIT Bolton Street

    Kevin Fox Memorial Lecture 2008 – Richard Hurley PhD Architect – “Art into Architecture”

    #771067
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    Do not forget to take the cabbages with you!

    And, please, would someone ask him to try to get over his Japanese screen phase -it is getting very tedious stretching as it is from Kanturk to Galway and anywhere else Mr Hurley has been.

    #771068
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    An interesting contemporary ecclesiastical architect:

    http://www.andrewgoulddesign.com/

    #771069
    Rhabanus
    Participant

    @Praxiteles wrote:

    Do not forget to take the cabbages with you!

    And, please, would someone ask him to try to get over his Japanese screen phase -it is getting very tedious stretching as it is from Kanturk to Galway and anywhere else Mr Hurley has been.

    “Do not forget to take the cabbages with you!”

    Your remark reminds me, Prax, of a brief exchange in one of the funniest films ever made, A NIght at the Opera (1935):

    Rodolfo Lasparri [Walter Woolf King]: Never in my life have I received such treatment. They threw an apple at me!

    Otis B. Driftwood [Groucho Marx]: Well, that’s because watermelons are out of season.

    With so many Japanese screens in abundance from Kanturk to Galway, perhaps a costumed performance of The Mikado could follow the lecture. Just picture Margaret Dumont as Katisha, with Groucho as Ko-Ko! Rhabanus would pay good money to see that show!

    If the troupe decided to take the production into the counties, might Rhabanus propose the Drumaroad Church as a particularly suitable venue? A few Japanese screens there would not be entirely out of place. Might actually break up the monotony. Any other possible venues out there?

    #771070
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    Here we have another interesting architectural firm specializing in the beautification of the horrors built as churches from the 1970s on:

    http://www.heyerarchitect.com/sacred.htm

    #771071
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    Here we have a glimpse of the Basilica of the Immaculate Conception at Guelph, Ontario

    #771072
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    And another view of the Guelph Basilica

    #771073
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    Compare the chevet of Maynooth College Chapel with that of Guelph, Ontario.

    #771074
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    The main facade of the Basilica at Guelph, Ontario.

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