reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches
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That is a good article the numbers are worrying in the context of the extent of the dilapidations which must be quite an extensive schedule at this time.
Now, the question is: where does this leave our little Danny Murphy and his codology liturgy? Clearly, he has been widely overtaken.
As for the question of an altar in Cobh Cathedral, well, the Sixtine Mass this morning resolves the problem – there is no liturgical need for a aVolkslatar in Cobh and the original High Altar can be used for the Novus Ordo without difficulty – something the FOSCC has been saying for oevr a decade.
Some comments form the liturgical blogg sites:
Here is what we have all be waiting for: little Danny Murphy bleates again – this time on the Stations oft he Cross in Liscarroll church.
Perhaps Rhabanus would like to comment!
@Praxiteles wrote:
Here is what we have all be waiting for: little Danny Murphy bleates again – this time on the Stations oft he Cross in Liscarroll church.
Perhaps Rhabanus would like to comment!
The Directory on Popular Piety and the Liturgy: Principles and Guidelines, published in 2002 by the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, treats the Stations of the Cross (Via Crucis) in sections 131-135.
The arrangement of fourteen stations is retained: “In its present for, the Via Crucis, widely promoted by St Leonardo da Porto Maurizio (+1751), approved by the Apostolic See and indulgenced, consists of fourteen stations since the middle of the seventeenth century” (132).
“… the traditional form of the Via Crucis, with its fourteent stations, is to tbe retained as the typical form of this pious exercise” (134).
Although “from time to time … as the occasion warrants, one or other of the traditional stations might possibly be substituted with a reflection on some other aspects of the Gospel account of the journey to Calvary which are traditionally included in the Stations of the Cross” nowhere does the Directory order the abolition of any of the Stations. No warrant for iconoclasm here.
Note the third subsection of 134:
“the Via Crucis is a pious devotion connected with the Passion of Christ; it should conclude, however, in such a fashion as to leave the faithful with a sense of expectation of th eresurrection in faith and hope; following the example of the Via Crucis in Jerusalem which ends with a station at the Anastasis, the celebration could end with a commemoration fo the Lord’s resurrection.”This does not mandate a fifteenth station. Rather, as explained earlier on this thread, the traditional Stations concluded with prayers before the Risen Christ really, truly, and substantially present in the Blessed Sacrament reserved in the Tabernacle.
The Directory cannot be credited (blamed) for destroying sets of Stations of the Cross.
The Pope and Marini the Younger have done wonders in uncluttering the Sistine Chapel. Can’t wait for them to get to the Altar of the Chair beneath the Glory of Bernini.
I hope that Daniel Murphy is sitting up, pencil sharpened, and taking note!
@Praxiteles wrote:
Interesting points Rhabanus!
The burden of proof is on those determined to demolish churches and church furnishings. Let them produce documents that mandate or support the wreckage of the ecclesial patrimony of the Church. The amount of irreparable destruction that has gone on over the past forty-odd years is unconscienable.
Churches of historic, artistic, and cultural value are treated with respect in all the documents produced since the Second Vatican Council. How radical upstarts can justify the waste of funds and energy, not to mention the brutal disfigurement of heritage buildings completely escapes me.
The restoration of Savannah, Georgia – America’s first planned city (mentioned with high praise earlier on this thread) started with seven doughty ladies who simply put their collective foot down and opposed the destruction of one of the old mansions. Appalled by the demolition of so many historic and artistic treasures in their city, these women focused their energies on that one building and restored it to its pristine glory.
Soon, others began to see the value in preserving the city’s heritage, rather than in erecting parking lots and factories. Now Savannah is a leader in restoration and has given rise to the premier college of art and design on the continent of North America.
With the remarkable treasure that Ireland possesses in her churches and other ecclesiastical buildings, it is reprehensible as well as shameful that upstarts and iconoclasts should have their way over the common sense of the general population.
Let these neobarbarians build their own churches or huts or teepees or whatever floats their boat. Just don’t let them impose their eccentric and exotic tastes on everyone else. Why don’t they start their own catacombs and work from the ground up? Or just keep burroughing down.
Note how their ‘contribution’ always consists in violence. Some work of art or history muct be destroyed, cut down, devasted, wiped out. They never enhance or embellish. They do not build up, because in their rebellion against good order, they insist on tearing down.
Solution: Give them a playpen or a sandbox where they can work out their daily frustrations, and design and build their own dreams away from others. Just keep them away from the property and furniture of the adults.
@Praxiteles wrote:
And here we have the guff-bite of the month:
“A diocesan spokesman told The Sunday Business Post: ‘‘No part of the cathedral has collapsed in any way. Since December, a section of the south nave and the south aisle of the cathedral have, for safety reasons, been cordoned off due to fragments falling from the clerestory wall. The occurrence is currently being examined by experts and a report is awaited”.
Does this mean more fees for the experts while nothing is actually done……:mad:
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It seems they’ve even painted over the figures in the apse.
@ake wrote:
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And today;
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It seems they’ve even painted over the figures in the apse.
All that beautiful detail, not to mention the more subtle tones and hues recorded on the postcard, now gone. Replaced by garish colours and unsympathetic lighting.
NEXT!
@ake wrote:
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And today;
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It seems they’ve even painted over the figures in the apse.
A few questions and then a comment.
What happened to the pulpit and the sanctuary gates?
Were the images stencilled in the apse those of the four evangelists or of the western doctors of the Church, or perhaps some other group that may have included St Nicholas himself? Does anyone out there know this? Were any records kept, or does someone own a wedding photo taken up closer to the sanctuary?
Note the whitewashing that took place on the coffered ceiling, and, most telling of all, the complete erasure of the phrase decorating the triumphal arch of the sanctuary: Gloria in excelsis Deo! That particular piece of vandalism shouts volumes! FOR SHAME!!!
Here’s a very interesting comparaison;
St. Francis Xavier’s; the Jesuit church in Dublin;
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Although the church at present is quite well kept and maintained, it looks naked and awkward without it’s former decoration scheme, which was quite superb. I always wonder in cases like this, – what was the motivation for doing away with the proper decorative scheme, since otherwise, in terms of furnishings etc the church is obviously quite lovingly cared for (and has been) by people who know what they’re about- was is it the result of a compromise between wreckers and conservatives?
One thing I will say is, in the old photograph, the benches are quite unattractive, though at least, neatly arranged.
The altar here was designed by Fr. Easmond and was made in Rome. It incorporates a number of marble fragments from St. PAul’s retrieved from the ruins of the basilica following the fire of 1828.
There is an interestinga rticle about in a fairly recent issue of the Irish Arts Review.
A reflection by James McMillan on the manner in which the liturgical renewal of the Second Vatican Council was highjacked:
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/features_opinion/features_3.html
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