reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches
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@ake wrote:
just thought we could take a time-out on cobh to admire the ‘improvements’ to this historic pre-emancipation church in Wexford, at Poll fuar (Fethard on Sea)
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Strange we don’t hear as much about this triumph of artistic creation.Treebeard’s mortuary?
Pity the number of trees that died for this.@Praxiteles wrote:
What has happened here is just pathetic and an act of remarkable vandalism.
What is the history of this church and what happened to its interior? A recent demolition or one dating back to the 1960s and the Age of Aquarius?
Originally, there was a mud and thatch church hidden in this little hollow during penal times, then in the early 19th century, this church was built. As far as I can remember there were some small works subsequently and then in 1970 I think, a renovation to conform to liturgical…blah blah blah.. usual rubbish. Maybe they’ve done more since then, looks pretty shiny.
Praxiteles has just finished reading U. M. Lang’s important study on the orientation of liturgical prayer entitled Turning Towards the Lord (Ignatius Press, San Francisco, 2004).
The first chapter of the book is an extremely lucid statement of the current liturgical law governing the disposition of churches -it would certainly help matters were the over educated persons on the Cloyne HACK to read it and contemplate it.
The book argues for the theological and liturgical necessity of recovering the common east-facing (actual or theoretical) of both priest and peolpe for the most important part of the Mass – the eucharistic prayer- if the liturgical renovation of the Second Vatican Council is ever to be recovered from the gun-slingers who highjacked it.
The attached extract is the conclusion of the book and, in its light, Praxiteles intends to revisit a numner of clearly ill informed and facetious comments made by Denis O’Callaghan when commenting on the FOSCC in his bucolics Hand to the Plough Veritas, Dublin 2007. From the remblings of this publication it is painfully evident that Denis O’Callaghan has not read a book on the subjject of liturgy for over 40 years!
@ake wrote:
just thought we could take a time-out on cobh to admire the ‘improvements’ to this historic pre-emancipation church in Wexford, at Poll fuar (Fethard on Sea)
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Strange we don’t hear as much about this triumph of artistic creation.This is a clear example -if one were ever needed – of U.M. Lang’s reference to a “Sinneruine” -the conceptual and structural ruination of the building!!
Thought I might share a little something on a different topic;
In St.Mary’s Collegiate church, Youghal, you’ll see all sorts of old pictures, panels and informative plaques on the walls, among them this, which I’m not sure if it is original or a print;
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larger version here ; http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2089005273&size=o&context=set-72157600141174376
You can see the plaster was still on the walls in 1860. Now it’s not present on the inside face of the nave, the chancel and the transepts, but remains in the aisles and under arches;
[ATTACH]6461[/ATTACH][ATTACH]6462[/ATTACH]also in Youghal, I see the Convent beside the St.Mary’s, on the former College site is due to be turned into a museum/cafe/restaurant/office building. Is there a chapel in this building?
also anyone have a picture of the chapel in the “Youghal international college” if that is in fact a chapel.
In the former convent of the Sacred Heart, there is a chapel of adoration -which Youghal Urban Council is contractually obliged to maintain under the (very favourable) terms on which they acquired this property from the nuns. Oddly, they deceided to remove a set of Stations of the Cross from the garden wall – and I am not sure what was behind that act of vandalism.
The International college to which you refere is probably the former Presentation COnvent (which I believe is a protected structure). Basically, the chapel has been stripped of its fittings -including its windows- and can be taken to be derelict.
it’s this quite spectacular edifice here;
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It’s now a spanish language college
Just love that beautiful stone- what is it? I don’t recall seeing it anywhere outside Youghal- or did I see some in Cork city…by the way re St.Mary’s, the new (or refurbished) organ made it’s appearance this year and is now at the entrance to the north transept. It’s nice, but why not put it in the already existant organ gallery at the back? it’s loud enough!
[ATTACH]6465[/ATTACH]A nativ Cork invention of red sandstone with limstone dressing. The formula may have been invented by the architect William Atkins for the building of the Dominican convent next to St Mary’s Pope’s Quay in Cork. Large quantities of red sandstone became available in Cork after the excavation of the railway tunnell on the GS&W line and eventually was used for building purposes.
The Presentation Convent in Youghal is another example of its use as is St. Colman’s College Fermoy (possibly by Atkins) as is the Mercy Convent in Mallow ( Ashlin) as is the facade of St. Mary’s in Mallow (Ashlin).
The pix shows ST. COlman’s College, Fermoy
Here is a coloured example with one of Fermoy Parish Church, West facade as done by Pugin and Ashlin in 1867.
it’s the greenest red sandstone around…;) They’ve finished restoring that georgian building on the quay in the same stone, looks good, though already graffitied. They’ve also put up very nice new heritage info signs around the town and put a walkway along a section of the town walls and opened the doorways into the same. But nothing can redeem this;
@ake wrote:
it’s the greenest red sandstone around…;) They’ve finished restoring that georgian building on the quay in the same stone, looks good, though already graffitied. They’ve also put up very nice new heritage info signs around the town and put a walkway along a section of the town walls and opened the doorways into the same. But nothing can redeem this;
Wll, there is no accounting for taste -especially when its poor taste. I cannot imagine what pink can do for an organ. But there you have it!!
what is this fixation with pink?!! Are the clergy trying to reconcile with Feminism?
btw here’s the font in St.Mary’s, which is the original 14th century one (not the cover)
[ATTACH]6470[/ATTACH]Also in St.Mary’s; one of the old info plaques states that three of the panels now used in the readers desks in the chancel were originally part of the Tudor rood screen, 15th century; here’s one
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interestingA very beautiful font! St. Mary’s was restored from a condition of near ruin by the Rev. Pierce Drew who was a noted antiquarian.
@Praxiteles wrote:
A very beautiful font! St. Mary’s was restored from a condition of near ruin by the Rev. Pierce Drew who was a noted antiquarian.
Thank heaven for sensible and learned clerics like him!
That Rood screen must have been impressive.
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