reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches
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@samuel j wrote:
Ake- not a thing, see Post 3614 by Gianlorenzo and from Prax last week
From to-day’s Cobh Parish Newsletter:
“After a number of meetings and research we would like to announce that restoration work on the entrance and doors of St. Colman’s Cathedral will be taking place in the near future. Tenders are at this time being sought for the work which will be funded by the Cathedral Restoration Fund. We will be informing you again in more detail prior to works being carried out. We thank the people of Cobh and of the Diocese for their support in the restoration of the Cathedral for generations to come. Fr. Michael Leamy Adm.”
This is a piece of pious claptrap. Cobh Town Council knows nothing about it and have not been approached with regard to planning permission or for declarations of exemption. Likewise, Cork County Conservation Officer is totally in the dark and knows nothing about it.
This nonsense is put out to calm rumblings in Cobh and elsewhere caused by the revelation that only Euro 4,000 was spent on repairs/maintenance in 2006 while a “hunny-pot” of Euro 148,000 was scooped out of the Restoration Fund for what are blandly called “professional fees”.
Praxiteles must check with the Companies Registration Office to see what was spent on repairs in 2005 – indeed Praxiteles will check out and revert to all and sundry on when the last sizeable expenditure was made on repairs/maintencance by the Cobh Cathedral Restoration Fund!
@samuel j wrote:
. We thank the people of Cobh and of the Diocese for their support in the restoration of the Cathedral for generations to come. Fr. Michael Leamy Adm.”
After what they wanted to do to the cathedral!!
Sickening.
The following are extracts from the returns made to the Companies Registration Office by the Cobh Cathedral Restoration Fund over the past number of years:
2006
– Euro 4,000 on bells
– Euro 148,000 Professional Fees
2005
– Euro 74,527 on uncertified works
– Euro 10, 840 on professional fees
2004
-Euro 74,527 (as following year) uncertified works
– Euro 8, 945 professional fees
2003
– Euro 00000 on works
– Euro 35, 789 on professional fees
2002
– Euro 9,957 to building contractors
– Euro 64, 890 to professional fees
2001
– £ 93,022 to buildng contractors
– £ 48, 026 to professional fees
2000
– £ 60, 788 to building contractors
– £ 20, 841 to professional fees
AND
– Euro 9,214 for advertising, promotion etc [this probably is the cost of the famous video promotion for the wreckage of the Cathedral featuring Denis Murphy and Tom Cavanagh telling us all about the finer points of liturgical theology]
There you have it,
Make what you like of all of this!Just to summarize the above:
from 2000 -2006 inclusive
Euro 355, 906 has been spent on professional fees
Euro 358, 305 has been spent on building contractors
Euro 11, 699 on advertising and promotion
__________
So on avergage for the period more has been spent on professional fees than on works. And Cobh Cathedral has all the signs of it.
Building Contractors: Euro 358,305
Professional fees/advertising: Euro 367,605Note: it was assumed that the reutrns for 2000 and 2001 were made in £s. They have been converted to Euro.
I think on the basis of the above more resignations are called for!!
Actual Works Professional Fee
Actual Works Professional Fee
___________________________________________
2006 €4,000.00 €148,000.00
2005 €74,527.00 €10,840.00
2004 €74,527.00 €8,945.00
2003 €- €35,789.00
2003 €9,957.00 €64,890.00
2001 €118,113.58 €60,980.44 At 0.787564
2000 €77,184.84 €26,462.61 At 0.787564
Advertising €11,699.00
__________________________________________
Totals : €358,309.41 €367,606.055Dear God, over half has been spent on Fees…… its a disgrace
@samuel j wrote:
Actual Works Professional Fee
2006 €400.00 €148,000.00
2005 €74,527.00 €10,840.00
2004 €74,527.00 €8,945.00
2003 €- €35,789.00
2003 €9,957.00 €64,890.00
2001 €118,113.58 €60,980.44 At 0.787564
2000 €77,184.84 €26,462.61 At 0.787564Total €354,709.41 €355,907.05
Dear God, so since 2000 more than half has gone on Professional Fees……
So now, don’t you see why it is time to have this entire operation investigated by the Office for Corporate Enforcement?
Mr. Paul Appelby, are you out there, please take note of all this?
In case anyone wants to check the matter out for themselves just go to the Companies Registration Office website where all documents lodged since 1992 can be purchased for a very modest fee.
The web address is: http://www.cro.ie/
The name of the Company is: St. Colman’s Roman Catholic Trust
The Company Number is: 194310
@samuel j wrote:
Actual Works Professional Fee
Actual Works Professional Fee
___________________________________________
2006 €4,000.00 €148,000.00
2005 €74,527.00 €10,840.00
2004 €74,527.00 €8,945.00
2003 €- €35,789.00
2003 €9,957.00 €64,890.00
2001 €118,113.58 €60,980.44 At 0.787564
2000 €77,184.84 €26,462.61 At 0.787564
Advertising €11,699.00
__________________________________________
Totals : €358,309.41 €367,606.055Dear God, over half has been spent on Fees…… its a disgrace
These most recent revelations have Rhabanus aghast and reeling from the shock! As he has asked time and again throughout these Chronicles of St Colman’s Cobh, IS THERE NO ACCOUNTABILITY??
Resignations, indeed! I suppose that legal action would avail little or nothing when the corruption is so rife, not say pervasive. Just pass round that honeypot once more.
Che cosa scandalosa!!
Here are the present directors of the St. Colman’s Roman Catholic Trust as returned on 17 October 2006 to the Companies Registration Office:
John Magee (Chairman)
Archdeacon W.C. Twohig
Brian Carroll
Frank Walley
Mgr Denis O’Callaghan
Mgr James O’DonnellThe present secretary is: Robert Anthony Morrissey
We await further resignations here!
And here are the St. Colman’s Cathedral Restoration Fund directors as returmned the Companies Registration Office on 17 October 2007:
Parton: Bishop JOhn Magee
Chairman: Denis Murphy
Denis Reidy (Secretary)
John Bowen
Brian Carroll
V. Rev Gerard Casey
Ted Foley
V. Rev Canon Eamonn Goold
Fr. James Killeen
Rt Rev James O’Donnell
Rt. Rev Denis O’Callaghan
V. Rev Muichael Leamy
V. Rev Frank WalleyHon Treasurers: V. Rev Denis Reidy
V. Rev, Gerard Casey
Fr. James Killeen.There is room here too for a few resignations!
@Praxiteles wrote:
This one?
Yes, that one. Rhabanus, however, notes a telling variant in orthography: Our friend Pooh is helping himself to the HUNNY POT, not the honey pot. Note the first syllable emerging in clear relief: HUN.
This Pooh bear derives his relief from indulging in HUN-like or HUNNY activity, such as the wreckage of fine ecclesiastical buildings. HUNs on the run – in Cobh! How did they ever get there?? Today they dress not in helmets and course garments but Armani suits and patent leather shoes. These aren’t your garden variety HUNs – these are first-class HUNS, with a taste for champagne and caviar. Yet HUNS nonetheless – never happier when looting a village or small island, and stuffing their pockets with “professional fees.”
Enjoy the HUNNYPOT whilst thou canst, Oh Pooh bear! But remember thy last end!!
@Praxiteles wrote:
Here are the present directors of the St. Colman’s Roman Catholic Trust as returned on 17 October 2006 to the Companies Registration Office:
John Magee (Chairman)
Archdeacon W.C. Twohig
Brian Carroll
Frank Walley
Mgr Denis O’Callaghan
Mgr James O’DonnellThe present secretary is: Robert Anthony Morrissey
We await further resignations here!
MISERERE!!
@Praxiteles wrote:
And here are the St. Colman’s Cathedral Restoration Fund directors as returmned the Companies Registration Office on 17 October 2007:
Parton: Bishop JOhn Magee
Chairman: Denis Murphy
Denis Reidy (Secretary)
John Bowen
Brian Carroll
V. Rev Gerard Casey
Ted Foley
V. Rev Canon Eamonn Goold
Fr. James Killeen
Rt Rev James O’Donnell
Rt. Rev Denis O’Callaghan
V. Rev Muichael Leamy
V. Rev Frank WalleyHon Treasurers: V. Rev Denis Reidy
V. Rev, Gerard Casey
Fr. James Killeen.There is room here too for a few resignations!
Parce, Domine! Parce populo tuo; ne in aeternum irascaris nobis!
(To be repeated thrice, whilst beating the breast.)just thought we could take a time-out on cobh to admire the ‘improvements’ to this historic pre-emancipation church in Wexford, at Poll fuar (Fethard on Sea)
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Strange we don’t hear as much about this triumph of artistic creation.JUst take a look at this piece of nonsense by
Mr Fergus Costello, Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary.
I jest not: This is from wikipedia: “Fergus Costello is an internationally acclaimed liturgical artist and church designer. He is a leading authority on Church art in Ireland and is based out of Cloughjordan.”
I should have mentioned, the church is not a tree house church. It’s completely grounded.
I don’t even have a big problem with this stuff, by itself, it can even be kind of interesting, for a few minutes.
It’s when they destroy the real, original interior to create this, that’s the problem. Do they not realise they’re contrasting two completely incompatible styles? Or at least, one of them is a style.. A similar, less drastic thing happened in a little village near New Ross called Listerlin;
[ATTACH]6457[/ATTACH]@Praxiteles wrote:
JUst take a look at this piece of nonsense by
Mr Fergus Costello, Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary.
I jest not: This is from wikipedia: “Fergus Costello is an internationally acclaimed liturgical artist and church designer. He is a leading authority on Church art in Ireland and is based out of Cloughjordan.”
😀 Does he have to practise his art by obliterating the work of artists of previous generations?
@Praxiteles wrote:
JUst take a look at this piece of nonsense by
Mr Fergus Costello, Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary.
I jest not: This is from wikipedia: “Fergus Costello is an internationally acclaimed liturgical artist and church designer. He is a leading authority on Church art in Ireland and is based out of Cloughjordan.”
What the deuce is that? The sarcophagus of King Tut’s malnourished brother? The tomb of Lazarus? The Scavenger’s Daughter? Dracula’s ‘phone booth?
Rhabanus shan’t be taking the road to Sloughjordan anytime soon.
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