reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches
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@Praxiteles wrote:
To return to the question of our little poll re the Cloyne HACK, I have to note that after nearly a week NOBODY has lifted a finger to suggest that the Cloyne HACK should not do the decent thing and RESIGN. ALL who voted throught the HACK should go – and several were emphatic in that view.
So…..HACK, what are you waiting for. Start writing those little letters. For the graphicalled challenged, a single line will do. And for those who cannot manage that, we can fix it such a way that all that has to eb done is to scratch an “X” at the end of the page!!
Parting is such sweet sorrow.
From this morning’s quondam Cork Examiner:
Gormley welcomes start of heritage week
25/08/2007 – 10:14:47Heritage Week begins today, with more than 1,000 cultural events being held all around the country.
Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government John Gormley will officially launch the seven-day programme in Farmleigh House, Phoenix Park.
The estate will be open to the public from 2pm for wildlife walks, tours, historical children’s games, music, natural heritage activities and a food fair.
Now in its 15th year, Heritage Week features activities as varied as bat walks at dusk, historical re-enactments and summer camps to lectures and storytelling.
Tomorrow marks designated Walled Towns Heritage Day, with events taking place in 22 walled towns around the country.
Meanwhile, Water Heritage Day will be celebrated next Saturday, when a number of events will showcase the recreational aspects of the country’s canals and inland waterways.
Stately homes offering free or reduced admission will be open to the public, while the doors on many of the great Georgian houses around Merrion Square will also be opened for a special open day on September 1.
For the first time this year every county is participating in Heritage Week.
“The diversity and range of activities taking place during the coming week speaks volumes about our national interest and pride in our culture,” said Mr Gormley.
“The growing number of people, especially at local level, involved in organising events and encouraging others to become involved demonstrates the keen interest the public has in our towns and villages, our wildlife and landscapes and our changing sense of identity.
“It is inspiring to see that so many are willing to give generously of their time to their communities and neighbourhoods.
“The quality of life for our children is dependent on the stewardship we provide today.
“It is not what we accumulate and acquire but what we conserve and share that will determine the quality of life for our children.”
Further information is available on http://www.heritageweek.ie.
@Rhabanus wrote:
Parting is such sweet sorrow.
Reading the quondam Cork Examiner this morning the thought strikes me that the Cloyne HACK might well be on some sort of twlight bat walk!!
Well, we are still waiting to hear from the HACK. If they have not managed to write the letters of resignation, then we shall soon post copies for them that can be downloaded and printed out.
@ake wrote:
The parish church in Kenmare
[ATTACH]5540[/ATTACH]I think the painting of the borders works very well. Alot of the smaller, plainer Irish parish churches could benefit from it,
and of course it costs very little. The church has some great glass]5541[/ATTACH]Some very nice glass here. Glad to see it survived.
@Rhabanus wrote:
YES!
@Praxiteles wrote:
YES
@descamps wrote:
yes
@Mrs descamps wrote:
Yes
@samuel j wrote:
YES
@ake wrote:
Yes!
@Gianlorenzo wrote:
YES YES YES
@corcaighboy wrote:
Yes
@kite wrote:
Thank you for the opportunity to allow me to vote YES on this poll Prax……
@Fearg wrote:
@Gianlorenzo wrote:
YES YES YES
YES
Yes.
(Am I too late? Does it seem bandwagony?)
Not in the least! It is always pleasure to have the public afforded the opportunity to assess the work of the Cloyne HACK.
@Praxiteles wrote:
Not in the least! It is always pleasure to have the public afforded the opportunity to assess the work of the Cloyne HACK.
Some folks wouldn’t get the drift in the middle of a snowstorm!
Some of those old chestnuts on the HACK have been hanging about since the heady days of the ‘Sixties, known then as “the age of Aquarius.” How interesting that they should have taken their cue from something as pagan as the zodiac. Then they were riding the crest of the wave.
Flux was the order of the day and Heraclitus was the prophet of the age.
Now that the tide has gone out – and heaven only knows its ultimate destination – these relics are still floating about like driftwood. They are a little weatherbeaten and scented with brine, but they still want to be centre-stage.
Time to put them in a bottle and send them out again to sea. They drifted in, like the trends, and they can just as easily drift back out – and make room for those with vision and sound principles.
Here is the contrast: the HACK and its servile posture toward ephemera and trendism, over against those who live and operate by principles. The classic versus the fashion of the day.
Rhabanus favours an embrace of the eternal, the unfading, the classic. Send the trendies on their way. Time for the HACK to hit the track! And don’t come back.
@Praxiteles wrote:
Some more shots of the interior of the chuch of the Immaculate Conception, Kanturk, Co. Cork
Lovely! Beautiful carved stone on the pillars and arches.
Those exit signs awful. I don’t really see how they’re required either. Certainly, there’s no consistency about their use.
St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
Here we have some photographs taken on 23 August 2007 which show a section of the the South arcadeof the Cathedral. For the past number of years, people attending Mass in this part of the Cathedral have beenc omplaining about a fine white dust that keeps falling down on their best clothes. More recently, people have begun to notice that chunks of stone have begun to drop off.
Finally, we have located the problem, hopefully, and it appears that the capitals of the columns are suffering from the effects of water ingress and have sustained so much water that the Portland stone has pulverized and is now crumbling. THe pink colour on the capitals is not caused by the camera and reflects accurately the present colour of the stone.
Wouls anyone have any ideas as to what is causing this problem? And, perhaps more importantly, how it might be solved?
@ake wrote:
Lovely! Beautiful carved stone on the pillars and arches.
Those exit signs awful. I don’t really see how they’re required either. Certainly, there’s no consistency about their use.
Agreed. If the fools insist on illuminating the doors, then that on the viewer’s left (Gospel side) ought to read “Introit” and that on the viewer’s right (Epistle side) can simply remain “Exit.”
The procession in the Roman rite is always made counter-clockwise. It dates from the ancient Roman processiona into the via sacra after great battles. The counter-clockwise movement was a means of ritual purification after contact with blood (in this case, war). The counter-clockwise direction obtained in the Christian dispensation with the great procession into St Mary Major on the Esquiline Hill (where pagans had invoked the goddess Juno in time of expectancy and childbirth) for the feast of Our Lady’s Purification – Candlemas Day, 2 February. Again, the idea of ritual purification after contact with blood (in this case on the fortieth day after the Nativity of the Lord). The tradition still holds in the Stations of the Cros, which go in a counter-clockwise direction except where some idiot took them down and put them up in the opposite direction. [The opportunity for this kind of error was minimalised when bishops had to erect the stations canonically.]
If the pastor needs signs telling him where to enter and exit, then perhaps he really is, as we say in the liturgical milieu, “more lost than a Jesuit in Holy Week.”
Heaven help us!
@Praxiteles wrote:
Some more shots of the interior of the chuch of the Immaculate Conception, Kanturk, Co. Cork
The cabana over in the side aisle sticks out like a sore thumb.
What a glaring contrast with the graceful pulpit. No attempt even at a retro-fit.And that easel down below MUST GO!
Too much visual noise going on there.
Too bad the stencilling in the sanctuary is all gone.
Another bare ruined choir.
@Praxiteles wrote:
The abbatial church of Ste Marie Madelaine, Abbey of Le Barroux, near Avignon in Provence.
Looks like Heaven on earth!
Thank you for that glimpse of the eternal liturgy offered in the New Jerusalem.
Love that exquisite statue of Our Lady to the viewer’s left (the Gospel side) of the sanctuary.
Note that Our Lady’s is the Gospel side!
@Praxiteles wrote:
St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
Wouls anyone have any ideas as to what is causing this problem? And, perhaps more importantly, how it might be solved?
Shouldn’t Cobh’s architetto already be working on this?
I am not sure that we can expect too much from Cobh’s architetto!!
Purtroppo!! seems that he is beginning to pick of a few of the local habits…..
And, laugh of the century: the much holidayed former architetto in Cobh, Denis Deasey, in NOW the architetto for CORK COUNTY!!! in succession to Billy Houlihan!!! Is not that something!!
@Praxiteles wrote:
I am not sure that we can expect too much from Cobh’s architetto!!
Purtroppo!! seems that he is beginning to pick of a few of the local habits…..
And, laugh of the century: the much holidayed former architetto in Cobh, Denis Deasey, in NOW the architetto for CORK COUNTY!!! in succession to Billy Houlihan!!! Is not that something!!
On the basis of some recent new housing and house extension planning applications I have seen that have got through while bugger all is done about St. Colemans., I fear you are right…..
While on the subject of Gothic revival churches in North Cork, here are some shots of the Pain Brothers’ Board of First Fruits’ Church at Mallow, Co. Cork. St. James’ was built in 1820 and must one of the very first gothic revival churches in the region.
Originally, the church was sited within its own grounds and approached by a lime avenue. Unfortunatelly, Mallow Urban Council saw fit to drive a connecting road thought the lime avenue and has since happily hacked away at the few surviving trees until now practically none remains. Not satisfied with bit of depradation, the “environment conscious” Town Council lobbed a bottle bank and several other sundry rubbish bins just outside the boundary wall – no doubt to imporve the aspect of this important building.
Further problems arise with the addition of those awful appendages just under the Chancel window.
The texture of the stone work here represents an early attempt to use random ashlar rather than coursed ashlar. Similar texture is to be seen in George Pain’s nearby Spa House of 1828 (and possibly also in the famous Clock House, Mallow’s icon building also in a state of sad neglect).
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