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  • #770294
    Praxiteles
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    St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork

    And here we have a picture of the Holy Water stoop that used to stand inside the door of the north transept. Now, for some unknown reason, it is to be found INSIDE the Altar Rail. There is no theological or liturgical justification for locating a Holy Water stoop inside a sanctuary – but here you have it Cobh Cathedral. The only function the stoop serves nowadays is to disguise or hide a hold dug in the sanctuary floor in the middle of the night by Denny Reidy and his cohorts to prove that the mosaic was not set in mortar.

    #770295
    Praxiteles
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    St Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork

    ANd here is another piece of deliberate delapidation. Here we have a picture of the mensa of the altar of the Holy Family located in the north transept. Some bright liturgist has hacked off the cover of the reliquary and has run off with the little box containing the relics inserted into this altar when it was consecrated.

    #770296
    Praxiteles
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    St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork

    What this is all about, I could not tell you. It has a distinctive pagan feel to it…..

    #770297
    Praxiteles
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    St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork

    And this is where that Holy Water stoop is supposed to be:

    #770298
    Praxiteles
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    St, Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork

    And here we have the Baptistery with the colonettes of the gate missing – stolen apparently.

    #770299
    Praxiteles
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    St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork

    And here we have a picture of a corner of the mortuary chapel which now seems to serve as a general dump.

    #770300
    ake
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    @Praxiteles wrote:

    St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork

    What this is all about, I could not tell you. It has a distinctive pagan feel to it…..

    wtf?!! Is this some kids science project?

    #770301
    ake
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    @Praxiteles wrote:

    St, Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork

    And here we have the Baptistery with the colonettes of the gate missing – stolen apparently.

    !!Shocking.

    What a disgrace.

    #770302
    Praxiteles
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    St. Mary’s Church, Buttevant, Co. Cork

    Here we have a photograph of the Cork architect Richard Brash who was responsible for the interior decoration of St. Mary’s Buttevant, including the plaster ceiling, the sacristy, and the tracery and glazing fo the east, west and south windows in 1855/56.

    #770303
    Praxiteles
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    @Praxiteles wrote:

    St, Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork

    And here we have the Baptistery with the colonettes of the gate missing – stolen apparently.

    It has to be sauid that some minimal care has been expended on the Bsptistery recently. At least the dirt and filth has been partially removed and there has been a basic application of H2O here and there.

    #770304
    Praxiteles
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    Here is a picture oft he west window at Buttevant, Co. Cork taken on 14 August 2007 with the wire grill completely re-instated on the window. How did this development come about?

    #770305
    samuel j
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    @Praxiteles wrote:

    St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork

    What this is all about, I could not tell you. It has a distinctive pagan feel to it…..

    Someone went to a bit of expense getting the bases done up…. wish they would go to the expense of a tin of varnish for the doors…..

    Would have thought now that if funds so tight they would have gone for long life/low wattage bulbs….

    #770306
    Praxiteles
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    St. Mary’s Chuch, Buttevant, Co. Cork

    On the subject of the prototypes for the historicized arches for the doors and blind window on the south face of the east transept of St. Mary’s Church, Buttevant, here we have a copy of a print of the interior of the abby published in Smith’s History of Cork of 1752 showing the chancel arch with its flanking nave altars. The arch collapsed in 1819 but from this print it early English arches with their coping is clearly a model for Charles Cottrell the 19th century architect of the modern church. NOte also the use of a similar hood on the window of the internal north wall of the friary church.

    #770307
    Praxiteles
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    St. Mary’s Church, Dungarvan, Co. Waterford (1831) with interior by by George Pain.

    The interior here is similar to the North Cathedral in Cork (1828), St. Patrick’s in Fermoy (1828), and Minane Bridge.

    #770308
    Praxiteles
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    St. Mary’s, Dungarvan, Co. Waterford

    Here we have the reredos of the High Altar, apparently by George Pain.

    The version of the Dead Christ by John Hogan done by John Scannell.

    Here we see what happened to the sanctuary in Dungarvan – clearly, the wood-nut was on the loose!

    #770309
    Praxiteles
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    St. Mary’s, Dungarvan, Co. Waterford

    What happened to this church defies belief. It contains some of the daftest “reporderings” that I have ever seen . Indeed, they seem to spring from some very deep and unspeakable perversity.

    Worst of all, the gilt finials on the bosses in the nave of George Pain’s fine ceiling have been hacked off and replaced by a series of very strange bits and pieces each glowing in an aureole of what appears to be polychrome lolly-pop sticks. I cannot make any sense of it and am inclined to think of it as gratitutious crap.

    Next, both lateral altars have been demolished. The altar frontal of the Lady altar is now clad in a piece of pine and looks beyond the ridiculous – what was the sense of this?

    The shrine of Our LAdy of Perpetual Succour, likewise, has been give pine reredos….

    And behind the altar of the Lady Chapel, we have a dump filled with rubbish…

    #770310
    Praxiteles
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    St. Mary’s, Dungarvan, Co. Waterford

    Apart from the altar frontal by John Hogan under the High Altar, this church has some fine pieces of sculptor (which may be of interest to Ake).

    Among these, a excellent neo-classical (probably Italian) Immacolata; the altar panel of the lady altar which has a magnificent Annunciation (completely obscured by the wood-nut who broke it up.

    A dedicatory inscription in some rather good Latin.

    #770311
    Praxiteles
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    St. Mary’s Church, Dungarvan, Co. Waterfors

    Here is what the Buildings of Irelnad have to say about the interior:

    “Appraisal
    An imposing Gothic-style Catholic church, designed by George Richard Paine (1793 – 1838), and built on a site sponsored by the sixth Duke of Devonshire (1790 – 1858), forming a landmark in the townscape of Dungarvan. Very well maintained, the church retains most of its original form and character with important salient features and materials intact. The reserved treatment of the exterior, which relies on subtle cut-stone dressings for ornamentation, belies the decorative treatment of the interior, which is particularly noteworthy, and which incorporates numerous features of artistic design significance – ranging from the stained glass panels, decorative plasterwork, and the carved furniture to the altar (also including a carved ‘Pieta’ by P. Scannell (fl. 1870), of Cork) – together with features of technical importance, most notably the construction of the arcade and vaulted roof. A collection of cut-stone markers to the attendant graveyard enhance the artistic importance of the site, while the gateway and railings fronting directly on to Emmett Street are a pleasing feature in the streetscape”.

    I wonder if they quite realize the connection between John Hogan and P. Scannell?

    #770312
    samuel j
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    Thread has gone over the 200,000 views….. 😀

    Hope the HACKS are taking note…… indicative I think of the keen interest taken by all in the preservation of our Churches….. :p

    #770313
    Praxiteles
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    Praxiteles is still waiting for the resignation of the Cloyne HACK. As any business person will tell you, when the directors make a major booboo like the Cobh Cathedral debacle, then there is only one option open to them – the just HAVE to go. The same is true in governmant. Ministers who get as WRONG as the HACK got the Cobh Cathedral reordering just MUST go. What are they waiting for? Is there a shortage of ink or do they not know how to read and write? If so, we can arrange for biros to be sent to all mambers of HACK. If is a case of illiteracy, we can simply do the needful and ask them to affix their X-marks on the dotted line!

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