reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches
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St. Macartan’s Cathedral, Monaghan by JJ McCarthy
Would anyone have a shot of the Rose Window from the inside? I expect that there should also be three Rose Windows here.
Cathedral of he Assumption of Our Lady, Thurles, Co. Tipperary by JJ MCCarthy
Here we havd a treat in that the Rose Window is based not on French models but on North Italian models and specifically on that in Pisa.
@Praxiteles wrote:
St. Macartan’s Cathedral, Monaghan by JJ McCarthy
Would anyone have a shot of the Rose Window from the inside? I expect that there should also be three Rose Windows here.
Only one I can find is of the organ case, you can just about see the top of the window.. as far as I remember, the transept roses here are unstained (although I could be mistaken)?
@Praxiteles wrote:
Cathedral of he Assumption of Our Lady, Thurles, Co. Tipperary by JJ MCCarthy
Here we havd a treat in that the Rose Window is based not on French models but on North Italian models and specifically on that in Pisa.
There is much to be said in favour of the juxtaposition of church, baptistery, and bell tower, as in the Cathedral of the Assumption of Our Lady, Thurles, Co.Tipperary. The current rites prescribe processions from one place to another, but does anyone follow the rites?
Lazy-A’s frequently plunk down a font right in the sanctuary, completely eliminating the drama of the processions from the baptistery to the church and the sanctuary. No sense of being incorporated by successive stages into the Mystical Body of Christ, no respect for the integrity of the rites themselves. Just shove every conceivable item of junk into the sanctuary and cram it with more kitschy debris so that the PP doesn’t have to move more than two feet in any one direction.
At one stage, a mulish pastor in a suburban parish (Our Lady of Peace) in Islington, Ontario tore the font out of the baptistery located near the entrance of the church and put wheels on it so that it could be pushed from the sacristy to the sanctuary when needed. He turned the beautiful baptistery into a closet for vestments. It likewise stored carrels of hymnals – another bane of liturgical life today. In other words, the once beautiful baptistery became a catch-all for junk.
All this of course is contrary to the teachings of Vatican II, which actually direct that seminarians learn sound artisitic principles and likewise the Church’s rich heritage of music (which does not include hymns at Mass).
The relentless dumbing-down of religion in general and of the sacred liturgy in particular fosters nothing but intellectual laziness and spiritual lassitude. No wonder the seminaries are having a tough time attracting and keeping good candidates for the priesthood. Young people are finding standards of excellence elsewhere and they are registering their preference with their feet.
The new generation of Catholics is not nearly as enamoured of the wrecking ball as were the riff and the raff of the ’60s “go-go” generation. How could anyone drive from his memory “the bright young things” of a witless era wiggling their bottoms, thrumming “Cumbaya” on the ubiquitous guitar, and piercing the dignified silence of God’s House with their infernal ululations? How did we ever survive that dark age? It reminded one of the warning issued by Pope St Pius X (reigned 1903-1914) in his motu proprio Tra le sollecitudini (22 November 1903): “And it is vain to hope that the blessing of heaven will descend abundantly upon us, when our homage to the Most High, instead of ascending in the odour of sweetness, puts into the hand of the Lord the scourges wherewith of old the Divine Redeemer drove the unworthy profaners from the Temple.”
And for some of the French prototypes for the Rose Windows of the Irish Neo-Gothic Revival:
The South Rose of Notre Dame de Paris
Another example of a properly arranged facade of baptistery, entrance, mortuary and campanile: G.C. Ashlin’s St Mary’s Church, Mallow, Co. Cork, 1900.
The baptistery has been abandoned and vandalized as has the mortuary.
@Praxiteles wrote:
St. Macartan’s Cathedral, Monaghan by JJ McCarthy
Would anyone have a shot of the Rose Window from the inside? I expect that there should also be three Rose Windows here.
The western rose is largely obscured by the organ except from the eastern end. The northern and southern rose windows never received stained glass and are clear.
southern window from outside
http://archeire.com/buildings_ireland/monaghan/monaghan/stmacartans1_lge.htmlInterior of western window
http://archeire.com/buildings_ireland/monaghan/monaghan/cathedral_interior_lge.html@Paul Clerkin wrote:
The western rose is largely obscured by the organ except from the eastern end. The northern and southern rose windows never received stained glass and are clear.
southern window from outside
http://archeire.com/buildings_ireland/monaghan/monaghan/stmacartans1_lge.htmlInterior of western window
http://archeire.com/buildings_ireland/monaghan/monaghan/cathedral_interior_lge.htmlHave you any idea of the subject of the glazing in the West Rose?
AKE!
Here is an example of a painted ceiling in the Sainte Chapelle in Paris wit its blue and gold stars. The Sixtine Chapel had a similarly painted ceiling before Michelangelo began his fresco series.
@Praxiteles wrote:
AKE!
Here is an example of a painted ceiling in the Sainte Chappelle in Paris.
Detail of one of the painted statues:
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… and here is a French neo gothic rose. Basilica of Sainte Clothilde – Paris, like Monaghan, internally this is mostly blocked by the organ (apparently some of the inspiration for St Saviours came from here):
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@Fearg wrote:
… and here is a French neo gothic rose. Basilica of Sainte Clothilde – Paris, like Monaghan, internally this is mostly blocked by the organ (apparently some of the inspiration for St Saviours came from here):
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When you say obscured, you sure mean it: Take a look here
St. Clotilde is important for it was, as far as memory serves me, the first of the Neo Gothic churches to be build in Paris and highly praised by A.N. Didron.
Yes, it was the first Neo-Gothic church built in Paris. Here is a potted history:
http://www.uquebec.ca/musique/orgues/france/sclothildep.htmlAnd here are some further pictures of the interior. It resembles St. Nicolas in Nantes -the first Neo-Gothic church built in France. Unfortunately, the sancturay has been gotten to before the Beaux Arts could classify it!
Chartres Cathedral, the West Rose
Chartres Cathedral, South Rose, the Glorification of Christ
Some shots of Notre Dame de Paris in March 2004 – the crossing was being re-ordered at this time:
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@Fearg wrote:
Some shots of Notre Dame de Paris in March 2004 – the crossing was being re-ordered at this time:
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Rebecca Baltzer has done an excellent study of the iconographic programme of Notre Dame de Paris, with its focus on the Incarnation and Nativity (through the lens of the life and glorification of the Blessed Virgin Mary), and of the Sainte Chappelle with its focus on the Passion of Christ. The latter was intimately linked to the prerogatives and privileges of the Crown and of the Royal Family (St Louis IX and his mother Bd Blanche of Castile) over against the Diocese of Paris. Louis IX constructed the Sainte Chapelle as an elaborate reliquary for the Crown of Thorns. As part of the inauguration of the Sainte Chapelle, the Crown of Thorns was placed for several moments on the head of St Louis, thereby associating him iconographically with Christ as Rex Pacificus.
Those were the days when Catholics knew how to build houses of worship – and did so with unparalleled elan.
Now we live in what Evelyn Waugh so aptly called in Brideshead Revisited “the Age of Hooper.”
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