reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches

Failte isteach, istigh!!

Re the slime question and the “treatment” of the Cathedral during the recent restoration programme, I have a question for Istigh: how do you think the present problem might best be approached?

I am not sure the building opposite the Cathedral (the Bon Secours Convent) is the most helpful example of what might or might not have been before D. Slattery unleashed the power hoses on the Cathedral fabric. It was built much later than the Cathedral exterior which was finished by 1879. The Bons Convent was built in the 1930s, I believe.

@Istigh wrote:

Go raibh maith agat Prax,
Hopefully it is a lesson those responsible can learn from, instead of wasting donated funds and grants battling the people through hearings, money should be focused on seeking out experts in there fields with the relevant experience.
There has been too much bodging going on.

I agree and what I being saying many a time..a scandal wasting dontated funds and he/they have the gall to continue with this carry on.

I’ve said it before and will continue saying it
The Bishop has 4 years before retiring…if the man wants to end with any element of decorum…do repairs and make it the shining light for generations to come, put proper planned maintenance programmes in place, have it pristine with plans in place to keep it that way…. Now thats what the people of Cobh and beyond would view as a job well done..the choice is yours Bishop

@Istigh wrote:

I thought it was 2 years left. Surely we dont have to suffer him for 4.
I remember when he first came, he was the popes chosen one, and they would be building a heli-pad over at “the pallace” for the popes iminent arrival.
Where did it all go wrong.

Sept 2011 I think……
Yeah remember the locals wags had many a theory…..on heli pads ..the works..

The iffy window replacements in the palace were the first signs……..of the quick fix mentality….

@Gianlorenzo wrote:

He has 5 years left. He turned 70 recently and the official retirement age is 75.
Therefore he has the opportunity to begin to put things right or, as is much more likely, he can continue wasting time and money on his ill conceived schemes. Any guesses ????

5..oh dear God…. well does give him time to do the decent thing and sort out St.Colmans maintenance wise, which is what people willingly contributed to and expected to do done in a professional manner.

If he wants to be remembered as the Bishop that collected funds under false pretences he is going about it the right way…… very simple just get your house in order, get rid of the Yes men around you and make St.Colmans pristine and a shining example to Churches around the country as to what they should strive for.

If he cannot do that, then move on and make room for someone that can….

The Church of the Immaculate Conception, Clonakilty, Co. Cork, built by George Ashlin (1869).

The church is a scaled down version of Cobh Cathedral and exhibits many of the characteristics found in Sts Peter and Paul’s in Cork and in Cobh Cathedral.

The West facade is a reversed image of the West facade at Cobh with the spire on the North side and the lower tower on the North side.

The vaulting of the nave and side aisles is in stained timber -reflecting prototypes such as the Cathedral at Saintes in France.

Clonakilty, as at Cobh, has three Rose Windows in the usual positions: North, South and West facades.

Again, like Cobh Cathedral, the Altar Rail -still mostly intact- runs from the wall of the North Transept across the nave to the wall of the South transept. This is an important element and one common to churches built by EW Pugin and GC Ashlin viz. Basilica of Our Lady of Perpetual Succor in Boston. During the Midelton Oral Hearing Professor O’Neill claimed that such an arrangement (spanning completely N to S) was an abbaration and could not have been built by an architect!!

The polycrome Apse ceiling further differentiates the sanctuary from the Nave, as do the the ascending floor levels. The back wall of the Apse is covered in a mosaic of a heavenly choir of angels. In the spandrels of the arches leading into the sanctuary from the North and South side chapels are two fine mosaics depicting Raphael’s Madonna della Sedia (1512-1514) and the Sixtine Madonna (1513-1514′).

The High Altar of 1897 is by G. O’Connor. The glass is by Mayer.

Unfortunately, the church is swamped by a very ungainly and ill-kept car park reaching even to the pavis of the main door.

@ake wrote:

Tintern abbey, Wexford, part of the reclaimed south transept: the vaulting has been nicely plastered. The walls however are whitewashed.
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Some of the fine stonework found around the abbey
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Just imagine what you would have were the walls properly plastered and then whitewashed and stenciled.

Sankt Stephan in Mainz

Another example of the walls plastered and whitewashed

@Praxiteles wrote:

Did anyone see Nationwide on RTE this evening?

I believe that The Chris’ photographs of the interior of the spire of Cobh Cathedral may well have given someone in Nationwide an idea for a programme broadcast this evening. Congratulations Chris!!

Try this link:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0108/nationwide.html

😎 Thanks for that link Praxiteles, great views of Cobh on that RTE clip.
How did they omit the modern “GEMS” :rolleyes: that our planners allowed in the recent past?, the Garda station, the SW office, could it be they would be utterly embarrassed to show such vandalism?
Also the shot of the mosaic walkway did not show the destruction carried out in the name of progress.

@samuel j wrote:

Think this was fimed in Sept or early Oct. Swansea-Cork Ferry in Background and she was sold in Oct.
I think Sept as it is since then most thr greenslime has got worse/built up on building

There is your answer to the recent build up of slime – the toxic looking stuff coming out of the funnel of that old rust bucket, must surely have kept it at bay!! 😉