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    • #707012
      shadow
      Participant

      Silence on the devastating expose on Prime Time last night. While the programme investigated some high profile lapses in planning, i.e. Clare Co. Council it would appear to be the tip of a massive iceberg. It certainly gave credence to removing all local authority planning departments and centralising a more efficient and empowered planning system, with less local interference, more transparency and more consistency.

    • #742408
      blue
      Participant

      Agreed but would it work. I don’t think the government wants to do anything about it. The present system serves big business very well so why change is their attitude.

      If you centralise the system it may not make any difference. The man on the street will just have to bring the central authority, instead of the local authority, to the high court to get them to do their job. I’m being harsh here but big business runs this country and their interests will be protected. You only have to look at the government carbon tax proposals for more proof of this.

      Something has to be done and centralising planning might make it a bit harder for those who like to operate outside the law.

    • #742409
      vinnyfitz
      Participant

      Did not see it but got the impression listening to the radio this AM it was all about enforcement.

      Enforcement depends on local knowledge and hence LAs but local planners must be subject to huge pressures from those whose developments have been deemed illegal. “Give me a break, I’ll go bust if you do that”, “Think about the commercial rates you’ll loose Manager”, etc, etc

      I wonder could we have a system where, once illegal developments have been identified, enforcement files are passed from one LA to another so e.g. Waterford planners could have the contract for say 2 years to do all enforcement in Clare, Clare planners in Meath and Meath planners in Waterford. Or some other “trading” system.

      Might speed things up a lot – and the mileage might prove an added bonus for the enforcers.;)

    • #742410
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Originally posted by vinnyfitz
      Did not see it but got the impression listening to the radio this AM it was all about enforcement.

      You will have the perfect opportunity to see part 2 over the coming weeks.

      Between non-enforcement and section 104 resolutions it defies logic as to why anyone actually submits planning applications at all.

      There is no rhyme or reason to it, even if you design something architecturally pleasing it is the gombeen with connections who will get away without paying a planning fee, while often legitimate applications are turned down on the basis of local factions playing each other off.

      Welcome to the potato republic

    • #742411
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Nothing in the slightest surprising about it.

      Also of note not included in the documentary are the amount of illegally built houses in the country – there was a report on Six One a couple of weeks ago about a man and his family who built their house regardless of not securing permission. The LA have served a demolition order on them but the report was nonetheless blatently sympathetic to the family.
      Cue father saying ‘I had to provide for my family’ and shots of mother and baby ‘I’ve a newborn child, and they want to knock our home’ – weep weep. How could the system be so cruel?!!?

      Apparently there’s tens and tens of similar cases around the country. Heaven forbid that RTE should be seen to be anti-rural or anti- the common man. It’s only big bold faceless developers that are bad in this country…

      Otherwise an excellent production.

    • #742412
      Devin
      Participant

      I know for a fact that there are up to thirty or forty cases every week around the country where a county manager has overruled a professional planner’s advice and granted permission for a one-off house, because of lobbying by the applicant or more often a councillor.

      Any one individual or organisation would want to have a bottomless pit of gold to appeal all of these – which would almost certainly be overturned on appeal.

      The system is rotten to the core and it makes me sick!

    • #742413
      d_d_dallas
      Participant

      shouldn’t section104 be renamed section healyrae?

    • #742414
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Originally posted by d_d_dallas
      shouldn’t section104 be renamed section healyrae?

      Is that Section Jackie, Section Michael or Section other son of Jackie? 😀

      lol

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