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  • #761022
    johnny21
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    @cgcsb wrote:

    I’m happy somethings being built to the left of the point but really only 7 storeys. 🙁 is it not time to break the monotony of the 7-10 story blocks along the North Quays? maybe something a little bit taller. And it’s so far from the Historic core of the city, there’s no way An Taisce could reasonably object

    I was expecting more height from this development,but its got planning permission 3848/07 with 20+ conditions attached to the development. Very bad black and white photos on dublin city council(oldies). Architect is hjlyons. This was prior to ddda decision for 20 storeys in the docks. Maybe they might apply for new application!!!!!??

    #761023
    paul h
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    @johnny21 wrote:

    Treasury owns the lands to the left of the point. They have plans for the site due to be completed 2010!!! 7 storey building!:)

    Dear God that building is revolting, what a shocking waste of land to have a sprawl of a structure like that.

    Where are the objections to these land robbing monsters?
    How can anyone prefer a building like this to something that could use half the amount of land or less?

    #761024
    Pepsi
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    you’ve made a very good point paul h. i don’t like it one bit either. how can anyone allow such a thing to be built? is this the best we can do?

    #761025
    jdivision
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    That’s phase one, a second phase is planned

    #761026
    GrahamH
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    Revolting?! This is one of the more elegant schemes to be built in Docklands. The arrangement of units is attractive and engaging, breaks the monotony of the quayfront, and the glazing is textured and eye-catching. Sure, the main block is overtly stoical and montonous, and could benefit from a crisp height projection at parapet level, but ugly it is not.

    A crude revised mock-up beside the new Point using ihateawake’s image.

    (If anything highlights the gaping gulf between architects’ photomontages and reality, this is it).

    Bearing in mind the Watchtower will be flanking the other side of the Point, there is no need for overt height competition at this location. Height to the rear is potentially desirable.

    Alas looking at the above image it would appear the charitably titled toilet block of the Point will be exposed to the river. Presumably this site will eventually be infilled? The limestone and brick of the Point look great since their cleaning. Some vivid texture there.

    #761027
    dan_d
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    The Point itself looks great since it’s been cleaned..but the whole plastic box that’s been stuck on top of it is just wrong!!And I have ny suspicions that it will light up from the inside.Colourfully.It’s…tacky..:(

    #761028
    SunnyDub
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    Could the rumour on this site about the Watchtower be right, read comments attributed to Crosbie source below, yesterday’s Sunday Indo:

    The tower, which is part of Crosbie’s €850m Point Village development in Dublin’s north quays, is expected to be 39 storeys high. The foundations of the Watch Tower have been built and Crosbie is working on its internal layout and final decisions, according to a spokeswoman for the businessman.

    Could this mean a re-design / change of use and new application? 😮

    Source, yesterdays Sunday Indo –
    http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/era-of-massive-bent-erection-1475197.html

    #761029
    alonso
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    Two injured after crane collapses in Dublin
    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhqlidkfeyql/

    Two people have been injured after a crane collapsed at the Point Village site in Dublin.

    It happened at around 8.30am today.

    The extent of the injuries is not yet known.

    Three units of the fire brigade are at the scene along with two ambulances and a paramedic’s team.

    #761030
    mcdanish
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    I went past the Point Village site today and it appears that at the base of the tower they have carried out some dismantlement were the lift shaft was due to be constructed.If this is the case I would presume the tower is in serious limbo.I know Harry Crosbie confirmed it was full steam ahead for the whole plan but the tower is definitely not progressing like the rest of the site.I m sure if it becomes economical they will proceed in a couple of years.

    #761031
    rob mc
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    cock,i hate Ireland!!:mad::mad::mad::mad:

    #761032
    The Denouncer
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    The luck of the Irish. We’re just about to get our first really tall building..and the global economy takes a dive.

    #761033
    Blisterman
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    @The Denouncer wrote:

    The luck of the Irish. We’re just about to get our first really tall building..and the global economy takes a dive.

    So, you just want tall buildings for the sake of having tall buildings? That’s a bit stupid don’t you think? Does good design go out the window, just because a building’s tall?

    #761034
    mac123
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    @Blisterman wrote:

    So, you just want tall buildings for the sake of having tall buildings? That’s a bit stupid don’t you think? Does good design go out the window, just because a building’s tall?

    :rolleyes:

    Less of your ‘holier than thou’ sh1te please!!
    The Point Village tower is quite a good design actually as most people on this thread seem to think so.

    #761035
    Anonymous
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    @mac123 wrote:

    :rolleyes:

    Less of your ‘holier than thou’ sh1te please!!
    The Point Village tower is quite a good design actually as most people on this thread seem to think so.

    I am not too sure of the merits/demerits of this building. I suppose it looks fine, or ‘grand’ as we all love to say. Anyway, that is not really the point that Blisterman was making as far as I can make out. It often seems that people on this and other threads on this site are obsessed by high-rise buildings for the sake of high-rise buildings, no matter what they look like. I personally hope that this slow-down might help us to think about the role of taller buildings in the city outside of wanting them simply because we want them (?) or because other cities have them.

    #761036
    The Denouncer
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    @Blisterman wrote:

    So, you just want tall buildings for the sake of having tall buildings? That’s a bit stupid don’t you think? Does good design go out the window, just because a building’s tall?

    I want well designed tall buildings in the city, nothing wrong with that. Maybe that’s a stupid thing to wish for in Ireland, you’re right there.

    #761037
    ctesiphon
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    @mac123 wrote:

    The Point Village tower is quite a good design actually as most people on this thread seem to think so.

    Don’t take the silence of those of us who gave up on these tall building discussions as tacit approval. The tower is bland.

    #761038
    Blisterman
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    @The Denouncer wrote:

    I want well designed tall buildings in the city, nothing wrong with that. Maybe that’s a stupid thing to wish for in Ireland, you’re right there.

    You didn’t mention anything about a well designed one.

    Anyway, that comment wasn’t solely directed at you. A lot of people seem to have a fetish for any building so long as it’s tall.

    Typical comments I see around here (paraphrased):

    “Yes! Finally a tall building, being built in Dublin, only 70 years later than the rest of the world.”

    “This is exciting, the lift shaft has reached 10 stories.”

    “10 years of the Celtic tiger, and we don’t have a single tall building in Dublin.”

    #761039
    Desmund
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    @Blisterman wrote:

    You didn’t mention anything about a well designed one.

    Anyway, that comment wasn’t solely directed at you. A lot of people seem to have a fetish for any building so long as it’s tall.

    Typical comments I see around here (paraphrased):

    “Yes! Finally a tall building, being built in Dublin, only 70 years later than the rest of the world.”

    “This is exciting, the lift shaft has reached 10 stories.”

    “10 years of the Celtic tiger, and we don’t have a single tall building in Dublin.”

    I don’t think it’s as simplistic as that. Tall buildings and it particular well designed ones are a partial symbol of modernity. And note I said partial symbol and not the be all and end all of modernity.
    The lack of tall buildings in a city the size of Dublin are a reflection of attitudes and a conscious and in other cases subconcious gut reaction against any symbols of modernety. The lack of tall buildings in a place like the dockalnds which can take them and in my opinion needs them (and I’ll get back to that) is a point in case.

    I recently visited Dublin and although (thanks to the trouble many on here go to) I have seem the developement of what was largely a derelict wasteland to what is now on line, one doesn’t get the same impact as when one’s standing right bang in the centre of it, looking at it. I have to say that I was very impressed. There is a certain dynamic about the place. However, one of the few downsides was the bland uniformity in height. I couldn’t help but think that if certain areas were punctuated by a tall building every so often, it would greatly enhance what has the potential to be a truely great new city quarter.

    There ya are!

    #761040
    rob mc
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    @Blisterman wrote:

    You didn’t mention anything about a well designed one.

    Anyway, that comment wasn’t solely directed at you. A lot of people seem to have a fetish for any building so long as it’s tall.

    Typical comments I see around here (paraphrased):

    “Yes! Finally a tall building, being built in Dublin, only 70 years later than the rest of the world.”

    “This is exciting, the lift shaft has reached 10 stories.”

    “10 years of the Celtic tiger, and we don’t have a single tall building in Dublin.”

    Yea people wanna see a tall building in ireland whats wrong with that??
    Its the way of the future and its what we need to do.

    Although Dublin only has one third of the population,its urban landmass is comparable to that of Berlin!!!!!
    we have to start going UP and not OUT!!

    Plus it you gotta admit it would of been pretty damn cool to have a skyscraper in Dublin:D

    #761041
    ihateawake
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    Now the ncc will remain the only attractive modern building of scale to be built in dublin despite such a huge boom (is aqua vetro a maybe?). Unbelievable, pisses me off big time. Our planning laws strangle the life out of anything interesting.

    Does anyone have any idea what will be done with the site? If they remove the foundations, will the tower be built at any point?

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