Parnell Square redevelopment
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I actually think that given the confines of the site its not a bad design.
However, we all know what the area is like….there is a distinct danger of any type of enclosed tunnel becoming a doss house and public urinal.
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I think the design is absolutely horrible and ill-thought out. Essentially a monument to victims of child sexual abuse, why did the designers think a tunnel that you enter was a good analogy?
could only find this on line for other entries
http://www.12publishers.com/njba_culture.htmPhoenix Park Pope’s Mass site – Much better location for it – the site of the last “triumph” of the irish catholic church as the location to remember it’s greatest sin
Ill put bets on this monument will be locked within a year after it gets regular use as a public toilet/drugs spot. Its very badly thought-out. As usual, the city’s squares are used as a dumping ground for random addition (the Solider Memorial on Merrion) with no thought to context. In the case of Parnell, the square rots around it.
Is it worth spending the €20?
A request for further information was made on 14th Dec for this development. http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=WEB1196/12&theTabNo=2&backURL=%3Ca%20href=wphappcriteria.display?paSearchKey=1837161%3ESearch%20Criteria%3C/a%3E%20%3E%20%3Ca%20href=’wphappsearchres.displayResultsURL?ResultID=2263531%26StartIndex=1%26SortOrder=APNID:asc%26DispResultsAs=WPHAPPSEARCHRES%26BackURL=%3Ca%20href=wphappcriteria.display?paSearchKey=1837161%3ESearch%20Criteria%3C/a%3E’%3ESearch%20Results%3C/a%3E
It really is heartening to see this be properly questioned.
The whole scheme smacks of such politically correct tokenism, I wasn’t sure if it would get the right attention.
In particular I welcome that people are objecting on the basis of the confused relationship that the proposed memorial would have with the existing monument to the struggle for national independence.
Councillor Mannix Flynn, who himself previously suffered institutional abuse, puts the matter most succinctly, describing it as “wholly inappropriate” and that the memorial to “the integrity of those who gave their lives for an equal society as declared in the proclamation of 1916… should not be tarnished with this State memorial which is a shameful part of Irish history created by the Irish state”.
It is most welcome to see Dublin City Council planning department do a thorough job by requesting a half dozen points of additional information, which further adds to my cynicism as to the entire project being at best a rushed bit of politically correct tokenism.
If the State considers this matter to be of such significance, why don’t they hold an open competition, seeking suggestions regarding both form and location?
Of course, in my opinion, the best memorial the State could do regarding this matter would be to reopen the deal by Michael Woods under Bertie Ahern that indemnified the RC church from prosecution from victims – with instead compensation paid over at the cost to the Irish taxpayer.
@Morlan wrote:
The new design for the child rape memorial in the Garden of Remembrance has been released.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0720/design-for-institutional-abuse-memorial-released.html
I love the way the only car park spaces shown are for the disabled… And who said that that this is just a meaningless politically correct exercise in tokenism?
I see now a large prominent tricolour is to fly as well. In keeping with the “symbolism”, if only the designers had written on it “I O U”, that would round off the scheme perfectly.
The wheelchair spaces raised the biggest guffaw for me. Ironically, they are one of the biggest insults to the mobility-impaired. Do they think they have no aesthetic sensibilities? If they’re going this far, why not chuck in a giant yellow box road marking, an electrical cabinet or three, and a few hundred bollards? A decent scattering of crumpled Dutch Gold cans would also be in this hyper-realisim vein.
In almost every way imaginable – from theory, to context, to execution – this is a seriously problematic project, ultimately crystalised by the fact that the very concept, never mind the detail, is classic material for a sketch on Irish Pictorial Weekly. Indeed, were it to feature, it would be the funniest, wryly self-deprecating insert of the series. The fact this has actually got this far thanks to the effort of a State agency that is supposed to be supporting Dublin’s UNESCO aspirations, and is actually unfolding before our eyes, is devastating.
There is absolutely nobody in control in this city. Poor Parnell Square is now going the way of Merrion Square and the Dublin Linn Garden as the random gallery to atonement and commemoration.
Cultural quarter plan for Parnell Square
City council plans new cultural quarter on north side
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/cultural-quarter-plan-for-parnell-square-1.1349351Wonder how the proposed memorial fits in…
Course it would be nice to see the Plan on the Council’s website the same day that it is launched. Seems everyone was none the wiser about the story breaking today. The City Architect never even mentioned it at last night’s opening of Central Bank in the 21st Century…despite the fact that a number of those entries suggested a Library for the former bank….including the winning design! Perhaps the City Architect wasnt in the loop…this is Dublin City Council after all.
HOWEVER! The Plan sounds like a great opportunity for the Square and I fervently hope that their is a programme of action behind it to realised its objectives…unlike its 2005 forebearer.
I look forward to reading it.
Ali [the City Architect] was just explaining all of this on the radio.
The new library is to be built in the buckets of space behind Scoil whatsitsname on Parnell Square North and it’s going to be ‘an incredibly dynamic space’, which I suppose will be some compensation for having no architectural presence on any actual street.
As grand civic statements go, is that not like announcing that a site has been found for Mr Gandon’s new Custom House . . . in a yard behind Store Street?
I note also the Dublin’s ‘Civic Spine’ has taken another turn, with Grangegorman and Kilmainham now its new extremities.
The whole thing is going to be financed by ‘Philanthropic funding’. Why did nobody think of this before?
There’s already a gloss video…
@StephenC wrote:
Wonder how the proposed memorial fits in…
here’s a very large 2.5mb image you just about see the memorial under the trees, slightly hedging their bets i think http://www.dublincity.ie/RecreationandCulture/ParnellSquareCulturalQuarter/PublishingImages/PSQ%20plan%20view.jpg
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