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    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Parking may go in Parnell Square redevelopment

    More than 100 city centre parking spaces are likely to be lost with the planned redevelopment of Parnell Square, writes Olivia Kelly

    Plans for major improvement works at Parnell Square will be presented to Dublin city councillors tomorrow, and are due to go on public display in the next two weeks.

    The plans involve extending the O’Connell Street redevelopment programme from the Parnell Monument to around the square.

    The revamp will follow the style of O’Connell Street, with granite paving, tree-planting and the widening of paths.

    It is not yet known how many, if any, of the on-street metred parking spaces will be left on the square. However, the city management and councillors agree the square should no longer be used as a major parking resource for the city.

    “We want to do away with parking cars on the square, and make the place more pedestrianised,” said Cllr Tom Stafford (Fianna Fáil), chair of the Dublin Central Area Committee of the council.

    “The idea is to see it heading the same way as O’Connell Street, with a better mix of public transport and pedestrian use to bring out the quality of the square.”

    Mr Stafford admits that there could be strong opposition to reducing the already limited city parking. “It will cause pandemonium at first; it always gets very emotive when we’re talking about cars . . . We don’t want Parnell Square to continue as a black spot and become even more of a car park for the new O’Connell Street.”

    He said Parnell Square should be a major cultural centre, with the Hugh Lane Gallery, the Writers’ Museum, the Garden of Remembrance, the Gate theatre and the Ambassador theatre on three of its four sides. The square also has the Rotunda Hospital and the 19th century “Findlater’s” church.

    The redevelopment plans, to be outlined by architects and council planners tomorrow, will be completed in phases, and likely to start at Parnell Street to the west of the Parnell monument.

    The plans include proposals for a derelict site between Conway’s pub and the New Jury’s Hotel on Parnell Street, and a cleaning and upgrading programme for a number of buildings. There will also be proposals for a vacant plot between the back of the Garden of Remembrance and the hospital.

    Proposals to relocate the Abbey Theatre to the former Christian Brothers school Coláiste Mhuire to north of the square are unlikely to form part of plans tomorrow. While the site has not been completely ruled out, according to the Department of Arts, Sport and Tourism, problems with acquiring adjacent buildings mean that plans to relocate the national theatre at the site have been shelved.

    The council hopes to get work under way on Parnell Square this year.

    #751056
    TLM
    Participant

    Was there a plan to pedestrianise the square at one point?

    #751057
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    There was a plan to take away the railings at one stage aswell, I think.

    #751058
    GrahamH
    Participant

    I thought from the title of the thread that parking was planned for the square 🙂
    Good to finally see things happening up there. Where will the plans be on view – the CC Offices?

    So has Coláiste Mhuire site has been officially shelved then or is the article induging in a bit of journalistic license?

    #751059
    urbanisto
    Participant

    All will be revealed in a couple of weeks. Any changes to the G of R will have to take in the OPW…I hope this is included in the plans.

    #751060
    TLM
    Participant

    I hope the children of lir sculpture and poem on the wall behind is kept in any redevelopment..it’s one of my favourites in the city.

    #751061
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    I quite like the Garden of Remembrance… its of its time and its very peaceful and a little sun trap. Whenever I had to get a bus to Monaghan, if i was early and it was sunny, I’d go in and sit down, if it was raing, coffee in the hugh lane.

    #751062
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Agreed – at this stage it is in a way as much a commemoration of those who died as it is of the 1966 commemoration itself.
    There’s a sense of history in there nearly moreso from 1966.
    It is of it’s time and it’s something of a novelty to have a piece of 60s landscaping and architecture in such immaculate condition. Short of the whole square being redeveloped I think it should be left alone.

    #751063
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    I think so too. Afterall we’ve already lose the garden at Pelican House from this period. Cannot be too many examples around…

    #751064
    vinnyfitz
    Participant

    The essential thing for an improved Parnell Square would be the full engagement of the Rotunda. Hopefully they will co-ordinate the planned major redevelopment of the hospital with the Council’s ideas for the square.

    Otherwise the place will remain just as disconnected from the City Centre as it is now.

    The Abbey will not be going to Colaiste Mhuire so there is a big opportunity to do something exciting in place of the school – something that will fit in the available space, that is.

    #751065
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Does anyone know anything about the proposal to convert the Wax Museum into a hotel? This will also impact on the future of Parnell Square.

    #751066
    urbanisto
    Participant

    I think this might have been granted….there was scaffolding being assembled there this morning

    #751067
    kefu
    Participant

    New Plan announced for Parnell Square
    “With the completion of O’ Connell Street next year, we are turning our
    attention to Parnell Square which has great potential to become a significant
    and attractive cultural destination for Dubliners and tourists” said John
    Fitzgerald, City Manager.

    A Framework Plan for Parnell Square has been completed by Howley Harrington
    Architects on behalf of Dublin City Council in association with the Office of
    Public Works, the Rotunda Hospital, The Gate and Academy Theatres, The Dublin
    Writers museum and the Abbey Presbyterian Church. The plan, which was
    presented today to the Central Area Committee of Dublin City Council, aims to
    transform a square which “is undervalued, underused and under performing” and
    which also suffers from poor public perception.

    Parnell Square will, during the lifetime of the plan, benefit from over €200
    million of public and private investment. Dublin City Council has already
    begun the €12 million extension to Dublin City Gallery- the Hugh Lane Gallery
    which will open early next year. “This Framework plan is ambitious and
    visionary – but most of all it is achievable” said John Fitzgerald.

    The Plan recommends the following

    · Upgrading the Public Domain on all sides of the Square- Footpaths, lighting,
    trees and bus lay-bys to be upgraded to the same standards as those prevailing
    in O’Connell Street and on-street parking and bus lay-bys to be re-organised.
    · An Urban Pergola and Sculpture Promenade on Parnell Square East to stretch
    from the Gate to the Abbey Presbyterian Church containing outdoor sculpture.
    · Rejuvenating The Ambassador Theatre which could become a cabaret type
    theatre with restaurant café and bars.
    · Making the Garden of Remembrance more welcoming and accessible with:
    o The entrance to the Garden to be improved.
    o A new gate from Parnell Square North
    o Improved accessibility for all within the park
    · Abbey Presbyterian Church (Findlaters’) to be accentuated by extended
    pavements and floodlighting
    · National Museum of Literature: Improve and expand the existing Dublin
    Writers Museum to become a National Museum of Literature
    · New anchor use for the Coláiste Mhuire Site possibly a luxury hotel
    · New City Childrens Garden and crèche on the Northwest Corner very
    appropriately situated beside the Rotunda and Garden of Remembrance. There
    will be a new contemporary “Cabbies” shelter built on the location of former
    facilities.
    ·
    Rotunda: A new masterplan for the Rotunda hospital to facilitate the
    consolidations, expansion and improvement of clinical facilities while
    contributing positively to urban design. There was broad agreement with the
    Rotunda on the following

    o New four story buildings facing on the Parnell Square east and west with
    increased car park facilities. The ground floors to have appropriate
    commercial and public uses.

    o A new public garden, recreating the original garden designed for the centre
    of the Square. This garden would be linked to all surrounding streets and to
    the Garden of Remembrance. This would create a possible new North South
    pedestrian route from the Hugh Lane Gallery, across the Garden of Remembrance,
    through the new Rotunda garden and through the historic hospital building onto
    Parnell Street.

    The Plan is to be implemented in three phases. Phase one, which will take
    eighteen months, will include improvements to pavements, roads, parking as well
    as installing decorative street lighting and planting trees. This phase also
    includes the flood lighting of the Church and the commencement of the
    improvements to the Garden of Remembrance entrance. This work will cost €25.6
    million including the €12 million already being spent on the extension to the
    Hugh Lane Gallery due to open next year. The second and third phases have
    longer timescales

    Michael Colgan, Director of the Gate Theatre said “Parnell Square was once an
    epicentre of cultural life in Dublin because of the vision of one man, The
    Rotunda Hospital founder, Dr. Bartholomew
    Mosse. He developed the area from nothing to one of the most sophisticated
    neighbourhoods in the city where nobility, gentry and ordinary people alike
    came to enjoy some of the best music Europe had to
    offer as well as a civic area devoted to the patronage of fine arts. Nearly
    250 years later, we now have an opportunity for Parnell Square to be restored
    to its former purpose and glory”.

    Master of the Rotunda , Dr Michael Geary said: “The building of new modern
    clinical facilities around the perimeter of the Square will allow the
    restoration of the Rotunda Pleasure Gardens in the centre of the Square. This
    will enable the Rotunda Hospital to continue its proud tradition of excellent
    maternity care throughout the 21st century and beyond and place it as the
    central axis of an exciting and improved cultural quarter”.

    Klaus Unger, Assistant Principal Architect Office of Public Works said: ” We
    aim to make the Garden of Remembrance more welcoming and universally accessible.”

    Sean Harrington of Howley Harrington, author of the plan said “Parnell Square
    is Dublin’s lost Georgian square. At the end of the great axis running from St
    Stephen’s Green through the rejuvenated O’Connell Street northwards the square
    has the potential to be the jewel of the north side of Dublin City

    #751068
    TLM
    Participant

    This sounds impressive..though the timescale is a bit long (I suppose should be used to that by now). The square always had so much potential, I hope at last some of it will be realised.

    #751069
    chewy
    Participant

    i don’t think i’ve ever really seen any of parnell square apart from the g o r

    http://dispatch.mapflow.com/lav20a-irl/Dispatch/Map_4380848.jpg

    #751070
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Wow – that’s interesting to see the GoR in plan view. Wonder if such a symbol would be ‘acceptable’ if built today…

    The timescale for the Square works is impressive – I think it’s the eastern side though rather than the west that needs the fastest attention – the public domain there is really awful, so windswept and barren. The Georgian fakes are also depressing…

    The stepped terrace of houses on the western side always looks great, despite their delapidated condition. Some decent landscaping here is going to make such a difference, but esp on the eastern side.

    #751071
    urbanisto
    Participant

    A planning application has gone up to open a northern entrance to the Garden of Rememberance opposite the Municipal Gallery. The application involves a new gate the creation of an enlarged paved area at street level and steps down either side to the sunken garden. THe proposals are modest but are the first step in the planned revamp of Parnell Square due to start next year and be completed by 2050 (or thereabouts…LOL).

    #751072
    aj
    Participant

    its good to see the Northern Georgian area of the city getting some attention… hopefully in time we will see the whole area getting a much needed makeover

    #751073
    GregF
    Participant

    I wish they’d add some sort of an archway as part of the entrance to the Garden of Rememberance….like Stephens Green. It would look far more grand and dignifying than whats there at the moment.

    #751074
    aj
    Participant

    @GregF wrote:

    I wish they’d add some sort of an archway as part of the entrance to the Garden of Rememberance….like Stephens Green. It would look far more grand and dignifying than whats there at the moment.

    Agreed whats there looks like school railings. Perhaps the Fine Portico that is at the bottom of Catha Brugha Street and looking sad and out of place would look really well.

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