Organ Cases In Irish Churches and Cathedrals
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@samuel j wrote:
It now has that MDF feel of something from BBCs “Changing Rooms” and the mind of Laurence Llewlyn-Bowen
…………..awful……. or would look better in Perks Funfair in YoughalPerfection description!
From my own investigations, the original colours of the organ was natural dark wood (polished) and all the pipes were gold coloured, and it would have been far better to revert to that rather than that lilac scheme…
What is the local reaction to the lilac organ?
@Archiseek Editors wrote:
What is the local reaction to the lilac organ?
Have yet to find out, but from experience, I was one of a few who liked, played and talked about the organ.
So I don’t expect much reaction to it.
Newry Cathedral – 3 Manual Telford Organ
[ATTACH]6500[/ATTACH]beautiful. Looks like Newry is tolerably well kept.
The Georgian Organs of Anglican Dublin;St.Mary’s,St.Werburgh’s,St.Michan’s
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ake wrote:beautiful. Looks like Newry is tolerably well kept.The lighting fixtures spoil the effect somewhat don’t you think? More discrete lighting and an imaginative colour scheme on the ceiling would work wonders there. As for the organ, its a real hidden gem. Not often you get to hear its full resources, As for the photo, I hope to post some better ones in the near future.
Great pics of the Dublin churches!
@ake wrote:
beautiful. Looks like Newry is tolerably well kept.
The Georgian Organs of Anglican Dublin;St.Michan’s
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I’ve always though that the organ in Youghal had a similar case to St.Michan’s.
If would have been great if they use the same colour scheme and not the lilac disaster that we have now.
it’s almost beyond belief.
Some pictures of the organ in Thurles Cathedral
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Close up here;
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=431261190&size=o&context=set-72157594577611854St.Audeon’s, Dublin;
[ATTACH]6540[/ATTACH]The Twin Churches in Wexford Town have similar organs;
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Ramsgrange, Wexford, Pugin’s large, ill-fated, rural parish church;
[ATTACH]6547[/ATTACH]The organ in the Rotunda Hospital chapel;
[ATTACH]6566[/ATTACH][ATTACH]6567[/ATTACH]Anyone know when it dates from?
Christchurch Cathedral, Waterford; the Elliot Organ
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“The organ here in Waterford was built by Thomas Elliot of London, and was installed in 1817 by Alexander Buckingham and was originally positioned in the west gallery.
In 2003 Irish organ builder Kenneth Jones from Bray, County Wicklow restored this fine and only example in Ireland of an Elliot organ to the highest standard.”
@Fearg wrote:
Here is Killarney – does anyone have a photo of the case before it was divided?
Probably one of the smallest cathedral organs in ireland (only 2 manuals) in one of the largest cathedrals!
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This organ actually has three manuals (although still lacks the “big stuff” vital to fill a huge cathedral). It was originally Telford and contained in what I believe was a handsome case. In the 70’s the Irish Organ Company divided it and made some tonal alterations leaving in the state it now appears…
Note what the 70s cathedral “renovations” did to the interior of what was once a masterpiece of Pugin’s work.
@Praxiteles wrote:
The Cathedral of the Assumption of Our Lady, Tuam, Co. Galway
Here is the organ case, but I would not be certain that there is anything in it.
There was a Bevington organ here until the 1930s, when apparently it was removed due to death-watch beetle infestation. It probably had a fine case (see the photo of the St. Mary’s cathedral, Kilkenny Bevington organ case submitted by another forum member)
@Fearg wrote:
Recent shot of the case in St Saviour’s Dublin. Instrument appears to be in very poor condition – many of the facade pipes are damaged and there are odd bits and pieces of organ innards sitting in one of the side galleries.. does anyone know if this organ is still playable?
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This organ was originally Telford c.1860 and was reduced from 4 to 3 manuals in the 1950s by Evans and Barr. In the 80s the incumbent organist began attempts to enlarge it to 5 manuals! (console still in gallery). The organ is pretty much unplayable and has very little of its original pipework left. Of particular interest though is the full length Open Wood Diapason in the pedal. It is the only full length 32 foot pedal stop in a catholic church organ on the island of Ireland. Dublin’s Pro-Cathedral has a pedal 32 foot, but it is not full length (for organ nerds out there, it’s haskelled)
@ake wrote:
The organ in the Rotunda Hospital chapel;
[ATTACH]6566[/ATTACH][ATTACH]6567[/ATTACH]Anyone know when it dates from?
Judging by the pipe stencilling and case design plus the lack of upper casework, I’d say that organ dates from between 1870 and 1890.
@Sulpice wrote:
This organ was originally Telford c.1860 and was reduced from 4 to 3 manuals in the 1950s by Evans and Barr. In the 80s the incumbent organist began attempts to enlarge it to 5 manuals! (console still in gallery). The organ is pretty much unplayable and has very little of its original pipework left. Of particular interest though is the full length Open Wood Diapason in the pedal. It is the only full length 32 foot pedal stop in a catholic church organ on the island of Ireland. Dublin’s Pro-Cathedral has a pedal 32 foot, but it is not full length (for organ nerds out there, it’s haskelled)
Thanks Sulpice,
Very interesting situation – would I be correct in assuming that it was an amateur attempt to enlarge? Although there is plenty of room in the gallery, 5 man would be stretching it somewhat, Such a sad situation, that church sersiously deserves an imposing instrument.@Sulpice wrote:
This organ actually has three manuals (although still lacks the “big stuff” vital to fill a huge cathedral). It was originally Telford and contained in what I believe was a handsome case. In the 70’s the Irish Organ Company divided it and made some tonal alterations leaving in the state it now appears…
Note what the 70s cathedral “renovations” did to the interior of what was once a masterpiece of Pugin’s work.
My bad – got the 2 man from a spec I found on the net. Here is a short clip of the Killarney organ from Youtube (showing the 3 mans 😉 ):
Photos found on Flickr which contain some images of the 5 manual console at St Saviours and the sorry state of the gallery organ and case:
http://flickr.com/photos/feargal/3017033608/in/set-72157613601594868/
The original 1873 Telford organ in St Eugene’s Cathedral Derry. Photo must date from pre 1902 when the present gallery was constructed. (Compare this to one of the posts in the first page of this thread).
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