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Therefore it would not solely be an administrative capital he is proposing, would it?
sorry, i should have been clear, ed walsh did wonders with ul, it is a great achievement and there is a useful role in third level education and in the science and technology community for ul and other universities build on that model. i often think nui maynooth should study ul and dcu.
he is an astute manager and very clever at branding ul and guiding into its current position. when it comes to policy however . . .
I entirely agree notjim Dublin should strive to be an important World City in terms of influence within the chosen fields
Where Dublin is doing well appears to be in attracting small projects at the higher end of the employment scale. The number of projects employing more than 500 people attracted to Dublin in the last 3 years can be counted on one hand.
Without doubt Dublin is the most important IT city in Europe and out performs in Pharma. It is building a viable Financial services sector but is still a long way behind London and Luxembourg.
With average salaries in these sectors exceeding 50k for experienced professionals it is clear that other employees are finding it difficult to maintain a decent standard of living.
Particularly affected are Civil Servants who generally got paid less than the private sector rate for an equal job (not saying all of them worked equally hard) But the reality is that if standards slip in the Civil Service the platform for industry is damaged.
Decentralisation is a good policy in theory as it relieves some of the pressure on Dublin by freeing up some existing capicity for the private sector in areas such as housing, schools and roads.
Where I think Dr Walsh is right is that you cannot govern a country from 53 seperate locations, there is too much interconnectivity, and as for e-commerce solutions, they form only part of a wider strategy.
One or two locations at most are viable, but if a second location is to be chosen it must be capable of providing a counter weight to Dublin without overheating any of the other major settlements such as Cork or Galway.
What should really be done is that the existing 53 location plan should be scrapped so that proper research can be conducted into the effects of decentralisation on the civil service.
ok good, we agree. i would support a decentralization programme that restricts relocation to a small number of centres, paying attention to the national spatial plan and local specialities and does not ignore the existing large cities.
by the way, i would have to argue with the claim that we are the most important it city in europe, we are doing well, but in r and d we are miles behind cambridge.
Originally posted by notjim
, i would have to argue with the claim that we are the most important it city in europe, we are doing well, but in r and d we are miles behind cambridge.You are probably right, but we are number one at blowing our own trumpet and convincing ourselves with delusions of grandness 😀
This 53 centre capital really sums it all up, there is something for Everybody in the audience :p
Deep in darkest Ireland, a large site is perhaps being consolidated , doubtless with enough “planning envelopes” used.
It will soon be ready, ready for the day when the scheme to decentralise, i.e. to bring government closer to the current Minister’s constituents, so they can flog off an auld site, begins to fall apart. That will be when there is a reshuffle of Ministers or change of Government, as the current “scheme” is tailor made for the existing configuration and for absolutely nothing else.
Then, and only then, will Ireland return to its true and ancient capital, Cork, to be ruled free of planning blight, by the cutest for the cutest.
PS – The City of the BVM planned for out here in the west, seems to be on the back (insense) burner now does it not not?
isn’t kilkenny the true and ancient capital?
hey, i have a better idea, lets make belfast the capital. i always belived that foreign affairs should be decentralized there, why not the whole lot, they could share stormont with the assembly.
tara is the true capital. that city planned for mayo was the greatest load of shite.
the idea is a good one. and planned properly would have a great impact on the island as a whole. it could not however be just government administration. it would have to be planned carefully to allow for industry and such. thinking it will diminish dublin is not looking at all the facts. brasillia and canberra didn’t detract from their respective countries main cities.The alternative model to the current version could have been 53 multimodal representations of the state with a one-stop shop for every department, tax, revenue etc. That would have been meaningful. The model, which we have adopted, is a decentralised centrality with various departments or fiefdoms operating out of various new centres. There was/is an opportunity to rethink the whole idea of democratic relationships. Instead of more obscure centres of bureaucracy this cold have been the equivalent of town square council representation of government in action.
Originally posted by dc3
Deep in darkest Ireland, a large site is perhaps being consolidated , doubtless with enough “planning envelopes” used.It will soon be ready, ready for the day when the scheme to decentralise,
The problem is that possibly as many as 53 sites have been assembled for potential sale. A very interesting rezoning motion is before Kilarney UDC no doubt with the dept of Tourism lined up as prime tenant.
The scheme is here and definitely not along the lines that shadow suggests, if one site were selected then one transaction would be involved making one person or syndicate quids in, 53 transactions would be entirely more complex to assess. :confused:
Lets build a big capital ship which can sail from port to port, allowing the regions to gain the benifits of a local capital city.
Imagine it! The government in Blacksod Bay.
And then of course, we can sink it with all hands if the government make any more stupid suggestions like decentralisation.Originally posted by schumann786
Lets build a big capital ship which can sail from port to port, allowing the regions to gain the benifits of a local capital city.
Imagine it! The government in Blacksod Bay.
And build a canal to Virginia to boot
Lets all march on City Hall and demand a meeting with Royston!
That’s scary – it even looks like Spingfield’s Town Hall!We could also decentralise City Hall to Royston and in the interests of sustainability provide public transport in the form of a monorail and call the link the Royston Monorail.
I believe our Royston is named after a housing estate adjacent to Stanaway Park Dublin 12. That was ‘a waste of (public) space’ not to mention a loss of amenity
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He was electioneering outside Pearse Station the other day with the troops in his P Flynn inspired pin-stripe – needless to say the last thing one needs to see at 8.30 in the morning.
Just on the theme of religious iconography – there’s a house across the road from Stanaway Park with the boxroom window converted into a Marian shrine, with what appears to be an MDF room created around her, with flowers, candles – the lot, and lit from above with a 1000w floodlight – quite scary really.
There’s probably a button on the gatepost you can press to light her up on payment of 20c.
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